drewski6

I do like the A's position players lol

I agree with you, that the phillies pitching was 4x better than the dodgers pitching last year and yet the phillies (at least in my mind) never really had a chance to win that series. I think LAD wins 8/10.

Problem is buyer-buyer trades are very very very very infrequent and very very very very hard to execute. Find a team with a good 2b who is 28-31 on a team that is not gonna go anywhere. Its a challenge to find that guy, but if you do, it wont be hard to find a deal that works for both sides.

If you want a deal to happen go after win now player on win later teams. Trade a younger player to a team that isnt ready to compete for a better player. This is the tried and true way of trading that has been in existence since I started following baseball in 1990. Getting win now players (prime or post prime) off win now teams (competitive) or win later players (young) off win later teams (not competitive) - for every 10,000 trades of this ilk that get kicked around, maybe 4 have happened. We arent going anywhere because we are a win now team trying to get better, so we shouldnt be trading with other win now teams (if we want one of these trades to come to fruition). We keep trading with St Louis not because Bloom knows our players but because Bloom is trying to trade for the future and we are trying to fortify the present. Trading with the cubs or astros directly, is a long shot. Just like at the deadline last year, when they were like "baseball trade, 2 teams trying to get better. Old school" and it never happened because they dont happen 99%. Either trade young for prime or trade prime for young, but if the latter Crochet has to go cuz it would be a reset. Stop trying to trade for 23 yr olds or 29 olds off competitive teams if you want to make a trade. Someone like Brent Rooker is perfect. Cuz hes like 28 and the As are probs not gonna be competitive in his prime window but I could be wrong, I can see them passing us soon.

Makes sense for you , not to you, hes a win now player on a win now team

Its just so hard to line up these types of trades. Weve been trying to trade an OF'er to a team in a win now for a long time. Since last year. I wouldnt assume it cant happen or wont happen, but I think the fact that it hasnt happened does show that its difficult and/or unlikely

He was hilariously bad against lefties though. I was too and I never figured it out.

We know that weve been struggling for over a year to line up a buy-buy trade. If a team is looking to acquire Duran or Abreu then they are trying to win and the 2b/3b they give you in return will likely not be very good.

Forgot Schwarber but hes not getting traded.

Rats

Me? Yes I think we are overpaying at that point, but the fit is too good to pass. Maybe we keep one of the prospects from astros for in season trade chip

Fine, Alvarez it is then

I remain extremely intrigued at adding either Alvarez or Rooker to this team if possible...who were always the 2 I had in mind. This isnt the first time Ive day dreamed about adding Rooker to this team.

I thought I heard some rumblings. Could have been forum speculation.

Or masa + money if either want that can be gone in the deal too.

Astros receive: W abreu Red Sox receive: Paredes, Rooker As receive: prospects (from Astros) and one of Bello/Harrison/Early (obvs I try Harrison first but not sure it gets it done)

To be clear the Drewski6 rostermove is W.Abreu for Paredes and prospects (good ones because they really want Abreu so I make them play) Those prospects we got in the deal (carry a lot of value) + Harrison for Rooker If that doesnt get it done, I sub in a better pitcher for Harrison (Bello or Early) but I stop at Tolle.

Houston is not demanding a pitcher, thats the problem. They are demanding Abreu. So fine Abreu and Bello and Early for Paredes and Alvarez

It depends on if Springer and/or Ohtani count. I dunno 3-5? I love Brent Rooker for this team and I think hes a pure DH but I dont see him as only a DH because his bat fits so well that it think it brings us up from 3rd place to competitor.

Its dead now. It was my idea for a bad contract swap and I thought Teoscar would have a resurgence at Fenway. Hes a guy weve had mutual interest in the past. The trade was HIcks for Hernandez. Im not interested in giving up value for Teoscar. Instead we attached a prospect to Hicks to save money, which I dont hate. But I thought I had a good idea of what to do with HIcks. I thought the dodgers would rather gamble on a hicks resurgence (BP almost cost them WS last year) and we would be more willing to gamble on Teoscar resurgence (mutual interest in past, good swing for fenway). Plus the ole "both guys could use a change of scenary" But its dead. HIcks is gone and Im not like shopping for Teoscar lol, a bad defensive outfidler 33 yrs old making money coming off a bad season at the plate. The point was salvaging value for Hicks and is dead now.

no but hes a dangerous one, lol Thats a fair point but I think he would hit here better than most our team.

When you say I would never trade Duran for Paredes but I would do Duran for Paredes AND a reliever, to me you are not fixing the offense. You are again, taking from the offense, to get a RP (and a more clean roster). But its more for run prevention. If its like Duran or Abreu for a solid defensive infielder who is an okay hitter, to me this isnt fixing the problem of not enough offense. Again we are taking from theoffense to add to the run prevention. Is it ever going to be enough? When last year concluded, in my opinion, our run prevention exceeded our run creation. And weve improved our run prevention soooo many times since then to the point where I dont think we have enough spots for all our MLB ready pitchers. I think thats a bigger logjam than having 3 corner outfielders (Duran, Abreu, Anthony). So these trades that improve defensive aignment (run prevention) or trade an offensive player for a less valuable offensive player and a bullpen piece arent doing it for me. At least on their own. I would need another trade on top of that, if for example we traded duran for a slick fielding infielder. Again, its more subtract from the offense and Im ringing the "theres not enough offense as it is" bell. SO I would need another trade to get some real offense. So you wanna trade Duran for defensive infielder, I think we need to go get a real elite bat but thats hard to do. Im waiting for us to circle back on Seager.

When a DH is an elite hitter, and we have 0 elite hitters, I do not see that DH as only a DH. I see them as the anchor to our lineup/offense.

Im fine with trading Rafaela for a 2b, I could be fine with Abreu for a 2b but if you do the latter (Abreu for a 2b) that may not improve the offense as much as I think is needed. So if you do that move, I may want to also go try to get a Brent Rooker, for example (if you trade Abreu). The only time Im interested in getting a DH on the trade market is if a) we trade an outfielder for an infielder and b) that DH who we are getting would be the best hitter on the team. Like a Yordan Alvarez or a Brent Rooker. I would do W. Abreu, Bello, Harrison and Early for Paredes and Yordan Alvarez.

Im more interested in improving the offense than making the roster more "clean"/"everybody has a position" Logjams are depth.