drewski6

Our pitching was very good last year and carried us, our offense struggled. We added more to our pitching this offseason than our offense Pump the breaks on bats for pitching.

Lodolo is a boss , but at this point in time, to think the pitching needs more help than the bats is nothing but pure delulu stubbornness. We have the best rotation in the AL East , maybe the entire AL and 0 top 25 hitters. Z-E-R-O

Yes, I didnt think of the slots and pools, I DIDNT THINK OF THE POOLS But touche, good point

You see UtahSox make good points about how not all revenue bases are the same, and its a SHAM to compare sox to league averages when us (fanbase) provides them with more resources than 80-90% the legaue. Almost like there are "expected expenditure" tiers. Lets simplify for the purposes of this post there are three expected expenditure tiers, the top is easy, thats the spenders. But the bottom tier, the cheapest, those guys forget external acquisitions, they cant even keep their own players when they hit primes. They can borderline keep players when they hit arb! Like the Pirates of a few years ago, or the As, they know they cant even afford to keep guys who it arb 2, so they start loooking to trade guys almot immediately after breaking out and they have a revolving door or high draft picks, development, and prospects. There are only a few teams in this bottom tier, just like how there are only a few in the top tier, theres usually a glut in the middle or "the pack" if you will Locking up our own players proves we are not in that bottom tier. We are not the Pirates, we are not the A's. Even the pirates and the a's are barely the pirates and the a's anymore (or at least to the extent they use to be) because the getting is good for rich aholes (have you looked outside). I dont really care, man. Had we never extended Crochet, RA, Cedanne, Campbell , we'd have enough room between us and the second tax line to bring in 2 more stars. But we didnt. Instead we locked up RA, Crochet, Cedanne, Campbell because we dont want to be in a position where we are having to pay them market value, so we zapped our cap for 2026 and 2027. We did spend, but it was to prevent future spending later. This is called a coupon. We bought coupons. We bought a discount on RA's and Crochets prime years (and overpaid for Campbell and cedannes) because we were scared we'd have to pay stars at star money prices (oh the horror) and we are unwilling to do that, so we traded our cap room in 2026,2027,2028 for future discounts on the aforementioned 4. And I know that we could have spent on the short term even after making those extensions. But we didnt. So yes we are spending. We are buying coupon books on RA and Crochet so we can keep them through their primes unlike Mookie and Devers because great players cost great money, and we were unwilling to have them through their primes. We wont sign a free agent, but we will trade prospects for other teams free agents if such team eats some money and so they cost less (Contreras, Gray). We wont hold a FA superstar making close to what they deserve (Betts, Devers) but if we can lock ya up young and get your prime years at a discount, we'll carry you then through your prime (RA, Crochet). So yes, we do spend nad we do buy. We buy discounts and coupon books and we arent quite the pure bottom dwellers (who would trade RA and Crochet rather than lock em up at a discount) - but what we do have is a fantastic recipe for a series of third place finishes.

Mark Melancon

getting rid of your depth to not lose 10 draft spots doesnt feel like its worth the squeeze to me. Id rather Masa be in AAA in case needed than trying to chop 5m off the tax line And i do understand how it can be the difference between whetehr you can fit bregman under second tax line or having to fall back to a 2ish WAR third baseman. But I honestly think if they want breg ,theyll just pay a little more tax.

I dont think the tax line matters as much as some think. Even the 10 draft pick spots isnt much cuz teams are drafting for signability and overslot vs underslot. Its not like baseketball or football where pick 10 vs pick 20 is huge.

100% Going by CBT and going by total cash outlay are both imperfect. And btw there are others too (which Im sure you know). None of them are perfect, but the CBT can be expanded by a creative GM and also (like you mention) its not a hard cap. The Red Sox bought discounted years for Cedanne, RA, Campbell, Crochet (think he had 2 years left on his deal when we got him). And due to the rules, these extensions recalculated the CBT for each of these guys and raised it significantly for 2026. We could have had Cedanne, RA, Campbell, Crochet all making peanuts in 2026 with minimal tax hit, and most of these guys arent getting a ton of cash in 2026 either (exception Crochet) because they are trying to keep the cash outlay close to each players performance and they care less about the CBT hit getting out of whack with performance. These players have higher CBT hits and obvs, if we had a 280m tax hit with cedanne/RA/Campbell/Crochet making peanuts we prob have a better team than a 280m tax hit with cedanne/RA/Campbell/Crochet making what they make. Someone could be glad for it (I think its overrated), but it doesnt change the fact that the CBT shoots up when you extend, and you could just as easily keep them cheap and spend that money shopping for external fortifications and this is a big reason why the CBT isnt the only metric for aggressiveness. Trading prospects matters too. Becuase if you refuse to part with any, thats still a non-aggressive mentality. Its really not about and shouldnt be about just trying to obtain and cram as much value as you can. This is what that article that I found a month ago went into. At some point you have to try to line it up and make a serious push. NOt just always looking all future years evenly. "Over the life of the..." thinking at some point hits a wall. Theres a time to think about the short term.

I agree.

I didnt say the CBT is irrelevant, im just saying that looking at the cash outlay alongside it provides context. Correct, Ohtanis 2m cash outlay is very relevant, and its as relevant as the 46m CBT hit (which is also relevant)

With how he remade the pitching dev here, a few of the smaller orgs would dump hot-seat their CBO's/GM's to sign interview him to a POBO/CBO position for their org. And then breslow would blow it, cuz he doesnt interview well If I walk in to interview you and you are sitting their defiantly and smugly , I already have my answer. Cuz chances are you are compensating for a lack of skills/experience with bravado, and ive seen that movie too many times to get fooled by it again. When interviewees are over the top confident, its a red flag. If you wanna win a job that you are a bit long shot for, you do it with asking the right questions at the end, not by pounding your chest and talking about your past accomplishments Its all about vision anyways.

agree both numbers are relevant.

I dont think so, at least not at same level. Not saying he couldnt get another job as CBO somewhere, but its not a guarantee it would be immediate or happen at all. I think if we sacked him, hed def get offers as a GM somewhere but thats a lower position than he has now

Would you rather: Roman Anthony make 7m this year and count 18m towards the luxury tax. Or Roman Anthony make 7m this year and count 7m towards the luxury tax (giving us another 11m to spend) Now I understand that this overlooks the future savings that we hope to receive from locking up RA. I get that by increasing Romans 7m tax hit to 18m, we get him 6,7,8 years down the road at a more affordable price. But really , its moving money around. They bought a future discount on Roman. They didnt buy Roman. And they could have kept Roman cheap, and used that money to go get more players and had a better team in the short term. Not to say that I dont agree with locking him up, but what I am saying is that only looking at the tax completely ignores this kind of thing. THey increased RA's tax hit in 2026, 2027, 2028 (by a lot) to lessen his tax hit 2031,2032,2033. I dont think they should get full credit for this "spending" and only looking at CBT ignores that this purchase was really jsut buying furute discounts.

Of course the cash is relevant. For example, the red sox are paying roman 7m this year, but crediting themselves 18m because they bought future years of his at a discount, and the averaging of the yearly for CBT calculation purposes makes them look more spendy than they are. There are ways to more out of the CBT. Not all luxury tax bills at a given amount are created equal.

What role are you penciling Hicks into that you are worried would need to be replaced , haha?

Hes trying to get teams to submit something close to a best and final to know exactly who/what is on the table. Not the very end and I agree, theres more time. Its mostly posturing to advance the stage of various one on one trade talks between Dbacks and other teams We see it all the time.

Jamex Paxton or Paxton Crawford?

I think Dodgers view teoscar as "in the way" but would see Hicks as a gamble to potentially help their bp and i think theyre still looking to add there. Of course, im not sure theyd do it.

I think they would because they are interested in bullpen help, and a Hicks resurgence could help them. Plus 104 mph will always have teams believing they can fix him.

point

My spiderman v spiderman comment would prob be "postional veratility" on one spiderman and "noodlebat" on the other.

I would do all 4 of those pitchers for marte in a heartbeat lol. Crawford, Harrison, Dobbins, Sandoval. And wed still have Crochet, Gray, Tolle, Oviedo, Early, Bello, Drohan, Uberstine Could use one more 3/4 starter, so maybe try to hold Crawford back but if you need to include him you do and maybe sign a #5 starter.

Yup, BOYS can contribute but you need MEN to win in the playoffs. Even Jordan didnt dominate his first few years in NBA

Cliff Floyd