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  1. Old Red
    That’s the kicker they didn’t view Masa as a DH despite his shortcomings as an OF. Then Bloom overpaid for Masa shutting down the bidding in record time. I understand not being sure on the suspects, but as it turns out Bloom was wrong all the way around, and the Red Sox still owe Masa $36M+.
  2. Old Red
    That would be a question for Bloom. Maybe he wasn’t that high on the three you listed IDK.
  3. Old Red
    Did you get 12+ inches of the white stuff?
  4. Old Red
    Yes he could have been on the opening day roster, but he wasn’t, so I guess they didn’t want to, and signed Duvall, and Masa, which might not have happened if the Red Sox thought Duran was ready. The Red Sox knew what Masa’s shortcomings were, and spent $105M on him anyway.
  5. Old Red
    May have sounded good, but STORY was signed to take over for Bogey at SS bad arm, and all.
  6. Old Red
    Didn’t Duran start the year at WOO, and was only called up at the time, because Duvall got hurt? Duran was not on the opening day roster.
  7. Old Red
    Exactly. I don’t believe there was any plan by the Red Sox brain trust to move either one off their positions.
  8. Old Red
    Masa wasn’t signed to be a DH. He was signed to be an OF, because the Red Sox were lacking for OF at the time.🤔
  9. Old Red
    You didn’t point out anything. You, or Notin just have a different interpretation of what AJP said to fit your narrative that #12 couldn’t be a reason for failed negotiation tactics by playing go fish. I also never said the opinions on the likes of ESPN, and MLB networks were all facts, but I’ll take those opinions as more of a fact than what is said on here. Blame is handed out all the time on here whether you like it, or not. You don’t have to know all the facts to lay blame at all. #12 played GO FISH, and that’s the bottom line, because Stone Cold said so.👋
  10. Old Red
    Why do you keep saying by all accounts? There is a big difference between all accounts, and all accounts I heard. Notin didn’t provide a different source at all, but how you interpret that account can lead to different conclusions like saying failed negotiation tactics instead of just the money. The RED Sox playing Go Fish while other teams were playing hold em. That’s what other people are taking away from this. I’ve already said that money, and no trade played a part in this, but just like others I also say that Bregman, and his negotiating also played a role. Like I have mentioned more than one other venue have discussed this, and not one that I heard said it was all about money, and all those other venues have more knowledge than me, or you. #12 did not shine in this one.
  11. Old Red
    The Red SOX made an initial offer, which was low that Bregman got a little mad at, and the Red SOX pretty much said it was take it, or leave it. Then the Red SOX were told that Bregman had a higher offer that the Red Sox didn’t believe. The Red Sox were not told what that offer was. Finally the Red Sox did make a final so called aggressive offer, which was to little to late, so a final offer was made, so there was NO FACT that a final offer was not made quite to the contrary. The final takeaway from all this was, and this is not my words, but it was FAILED NEGOTIATION tactics by the Red Sox, and while the Red Sox were playing GO Fish other teams were playing hold em. Once again not my words. 👋
  12. Old Red
    The issue is not that they haven’t been talked about, but that the Red Sox don’t have any of them.
  13. Old Red
    You mean someone like Alonso, or Raffy, or to some degree Bregman?
  14. Old Red
    I’m going more on what AJP says who seems to have some insider knowledge, which is more than what you, or I have. He spells it out pretty well IMO. I also heard it discussed on MLB, ESPN, NESN, and other talk shows. Where does your info come from?
  15. Old Red
    I don’t believe it was the all he was allowed to offer angle since they offered Ranger more PDV after the fact. Money, no trade, and yes misreading the room, which led to his tactics all could have played a part.
  16. Old Red
    You guys are making it seem like money was the only reason that Bregman didn’t come back to Boston, and I’m certainly not saying money didn’t have anything to do with it, but after listening to AJP I think Brez’s negotiation tactic had something to do with it also. I know that would be hard to believe for some, but I think it more than a possibility.
  17. Old Red
    Did Brez fail, or not fail in landing what the Red Sox most wanted, and was their PLAN A?
  18. Old Red
    Don’t forget Kimmi whom would have been with us. Just, because Brez failed his main mission doesn’t mean he’d be a bum. Kind of harsh aren’t you? Even for a 12th pick.
  19. Old Red
    How about AJP’s account who seemed to have inside information on how Brez handled things? You are not really calling me out for my statements when I’m just repeating what I heard others say on other networks not named talksox.
  20. Old Red
    You are right I didn’t want Bregman back for any longer than they originally signed him for, which was three years, but you are wrong when you say I’m pissed for as you say that Brez bitched the negotiations. I am just pointing out that the Red Sox could not land Bregman who was PLAN A just like they discussed it on ESPN, and MLB Network, and also on different talk shows just like this one, and yes even on NESN. Of course I don’t criticize Brez just like I didn’t criticize Bloom which is just like you didn’t apologize, or defend Bloom, or apologize, or defend Brez, or JH.The funniest part was that none of the different sports sites I mentioned praised Brez at all in him handling the Bregman negotiations. How do you account for that? Are they all pissed? Are they all wrong?👋
  21. Old Red
    I doubt very much they had already come together on the Numbers, and that they had planned all along to offer Ranger more PDV than they offered Bregman, and that only came about, because they lost out on Bregman, and upped the numbers then that Ranger ended up with.
  22. Old Red
    If, if, if. If you want to go on the assumption that it was JH who was firm on the no trade clause fine. You can also assume it was JH who wanted to defer the money for decades, but then turned around, and gave Ranger more PDV. JH must have told Brez to give Bregman a low offer, and pretty much a take it, or leave it, and not to believe BorASS that they had a better offer on the table. Good strategy to get Bregman mad to start with, and then come back with that so called aggressive offer when it was way too late. So you say Brez bitched it? GOOD ONE.🙈
  23. Old Red
    Wow can you imagine the gaul of some people on another network actually not actually apologizing, or defending Brez, and just finding it interesting that Sam was praising O’Halloran for working on the Ranger deal, and not Brez. Brez must have tired himself all out working on, and finalizing the Bregman deal. Oh wait.🤫
  24. Old Red
    I said all accounts that I heard. Do you have anything to the contrary? You wouldn’t be persistently apologizing, or defending Brez again would you? Persistently saying you aren’t doesn’t pass the smell test, but I’m sure you’ll persist, and insist anyway all to NO avail.👋
  25. Old Red
    It doesn’t really matter if it’s not all, not even close to all, or none at all? Bregman was PLAN A, and by all accounts thatI heard especially from AJP,Brez bungled the Bregman negotiations right from the start.
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