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  1. Old Red
    Yes let’s just waste another year waiting for the over hyped Suspects to lead us to the promise land. No I don’t think MOST fans are looking ahead to 2026 when 2025 hasn’t even started yet, and don’t want to hear that.
  2. Old Red
    They didn’t have to say anything at all, and I’m not so sure they’ve talked about it internally. Some on here thinks it would be an easy move, and I don’t, and nor do I think he would want to do it.
  3. Old Red
    Both Brez, and Cora have said Raffy is the 3B, and have said right along. Supposedly Casas was being shopped to Seattle at one time for pitching, but I don’t see that happening now, but I don’t now what the plan would have been if Casas had been moved.
  4. Old Red
    Bloom did a good job with Martin, and Jansen even though he was a year late signing Jansen.
  5. Old Red
    No Houck would not be a better pitcher in theory, but IMO he would still rather have the 14-8 record. I agree with the rest, and once again many things go into any pitchers W-L record. I just don’t rank any of the reasons, or stats in any order of importance. That works for me, and your way works for you.
  6. Old Red
    I guess one of my questions is why do you have to rank stats in the first place? It’s true Sale was dominant with K’s, low H/IP, low ERA, which all helped to the 18-3 record. IMO more pitchers than you think care about ALL their stats, which includes their W-L record. IMO Houck would have rather swapped records with Bello this year than to say he was a better pitcher.
  7. Old Red
    I have Never said a pitchers W-L record is the most important stat on determining how good a pitcher is. I have said it’s one of them. I don’t really care where it ranks on the totem poles. I have always said that is where I start, and then go from there. That’s what works for me. What works for you, and others is totally different, and that’s fine too. To say a W-L record is less revealing of a pitcher of all the stats out there is not always true as was with Sale, and Skubal this past year. Same with their ERA this past year, and. the same with their other stats. We’ve gone through this many times on which stats are most important to whomever is looking, and analyzing things, and everyone has different needs, and interest, but like I said IMO a pitcher cares what their W-L looks like.
  8. Old Red
    A pitcher can allow zero earned runs, and still get the loss is true. Also a pitcher can give up 6 earned runs,, and still be the winning pitcher. I’m not disputing everything that’s been said, and agree with most, but all I’m saying is that there so many variables that goes in to how good a starting pitcher is, and W-L is ONE of them. Like I mentioned before that Houck was a better pitcher than Bello this past season, but Houck was 9-10, and Bello was 14-8. There were a lot of variables that went into the difference, but I bet Houck would have rather been 14-8 than 9-10, and that starting pitchers care about their W-L than others do on here. Like I said Houck, and Bello, and Sale, and Skubal were on two sides of the spectrum on how to judge a pitcher. How two different people judge things, and how deep they delve into the different variables could be the difference of an average fan, and a real diehard who wants, and needs every stat they can get. BOTH ways work.
  9. Old Red
    Win leaders, ERA leaders, and K leaders also. That’s why ALL stats matter.
  10. Old Red
    I get that starting pitchers aren’t viewed like they used to be, because the game has changed. Starting pitchers used to be admired as much as the big sluggers, but even today I think a pitcher does care about his W-L record.
  11. Old Red
    All is all including the eye test. Some stats like the W-L you have to delve deeper like with Bello, and Houck this past year' but then again with Sale, and Skubal you don’t. Each case is different, but ALL stats matter to some agree IMO.
  12. Old Red
    Who were the two best starters in Baseball last year? Skubal, and Sale. They had the most wins, the lowest ERA, and most K’s. ALL stats mean something. It depends on how many you want, and how far you want to delve into them. Sometimes like in this case you don’t have to go very deep at all, and sometimes you have to. ALL stats do mean something.
  13. Old Red
    Last year both Houck, and Bello made 30 starts. Houck went 9-10 with a 3.12. Bello on the other hand went 14-8 with a 4.49. Now I watched enough games to know that Houck was the better pitcher, so the good old eye test told me that. Now you can throw out there all the stats you want, and need, but do you think Houck would rather have been 9-10, or 14-8?
  14. Old Red
    Mass Live by Chris Cotillo. I read this yesterday, and reported this yesterday. Supposedly happened at the Winter Meetings.
  15. Old Red
    Yes it did, but what does that have to do with working on both trades at the same time? If Seattle would have taken Masa that trade could have gone through, and not the Crochet deal.
  16. Old Red
    The report is the Red Sox were working on deals at the same time with Castillo from Seattle, and Crochet from Chicago. Casas would go to Seattle, but Seattle, balked at taking Masa, so then the deal was finalized with Chicago. Which would have been better? Time will tell.
  17. Old Red
    What took so long?
  18. Old Red
    Where’s the love for Masa? The Globe reported the Sox were in discussions with Seattle for Castillo for Casas, but the Red Sox would not do straight up, and wanted to include Masa. It didn’t work out, so Boston turned to Chicago for Crochet.
  19. Old Red
    Ok I’ll try to clarify. I just don’t think Bello would be the last option to be in the rotation, or even yet not be in the rotation at all. 2025 Bue, and 2025 Gio are no sure thing, and Cro is vastly untested innings wise to know what you’ll get. If Bello takes a leap this year like Houck did last year yes I think he could be their best starter.
  20. Old Red
    No I do not care who is better, or who does better. I hope they Both turn out to be top of the rotation starters. It started out by me saying Bello was not a 5-6 starter, and the rest came after that. I don’t get into the slotting of SP. To me you have 5 starters, and some are better than others. I don’t set there on game day, and say we’ve got a #4 going against a #2. Bello was already locked into the starting rotation after the 2023 for the 2024 season. Houck was not, and if Gio hadn’t gone down Houck might not have started the season in the rotation at all, so Bello was ahead of Houck. Houck had a good, and consistent season this year, which was good to see for him, and the Sox. I hope Both Bello, and Houck continue to improve, and get better, but I don’t care where they rank.
  21. Old Red
    Bello is 25, and Houck is 28. Bello has some time to catch up, and get better. Whether he does get better is another question.
  22. Old Red
    Good for Houck, and good for the Sox if he can replicate 2024, and may even get better, but then again he may not. I personally don’t give a rat’s a** who turns out to be the better pitcher in the long run.
  23. Old Red
    I don’t know why you are focusing on Bello so much. All I said was he’s not the 5-6 starter on a team with so many ifs, ands, and buts. Bue most likely will see 2021 stats again. Cro is untested not only in innings, but pitching in Boston. Gio was last seen as a batting practice/HR Derby pitcher. I said he’s still Big Baby Bello, and if he gets rid of that he may get better, and who knows maybe the best starter on the team this year. If not then No big deal.
  24. Old Red
    I wouldn’t call Houck awesome his first three years. He bounced around some between starting, and relieving, which probably didn’t help, and had some consistency problems, and couldn’t get over that 5th inning wall. A few injuries didn’t help either. Last year he was healthy, pretty much consistent, and upped his innings load. Can he build on that, and get better time will tell.
  25. Old Red
    Bello is still Big Baby Bello, so if he can get over that he’d probably be better.
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