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Pipeline is not updated, Boston’s farm system has taken a huge step back from trades and graduations while Bennett is currently ranked 6th in Washington’s system. While Perales is ranked 5th in Boston’s. im not saying I like the trade, but the difference between Perales isn’t as extreme as people think. The Sox certainly seem to think not. are they right? Ask me again in several years.

for LT purposes the payroll is currently at $226.19 according to Sox Payroll. https://soxprospects.com/payroll.htm

https://www.forbes.com/teams/boston-red-sox/#:~:text=Historical,$208M

Red Sox had 574 million revenue the year before with over $120 in net income. They were the most profitable organization in the league. If they are saying they lost money I'm saying they're effing lying. I'll take this as posturing from the owners heading into negotiations in 2027.

And on top of that, how good was Quinn Priester at that point in time? Couldn't we use the same exact logic he used on Carlos Narvaez and say that the Brewers just got lucky. Nobody thought he was that good then, and up until then we had already built Quinn Priester back up a little bit and made him look better. Breslow actually gets credit for that trade on the other end getting value for Nick Yorke.

I mean, you got be consistent both ways. These teams spend fortunes on personnel and technology that evaluate these guys and we have literally zero ideal what they knew or thought about Narvaez before trading for him other than they traded for him. Erod was a far away prospect, Narvaez was literally mlb level who started on the 2025 roster, the Sox obviously targeted him so it's ludicrous to suggest that they just made some random trade for a catcher and happened to guess right. They traded away Teel and needed a catcher, they then went out and got a guy who happened to be a stud. That's not luck.....

WHat does that even mean?

See, I don't think that's even close to an accurate assesment. Just because you or I didn't know who he was doesn't mean the Sox didn't. And right now Kyle Harrison literally has the exact same profile Quinn Preister did at the time of that trade. 24, young, former top 25 overal prospect, and hasn't really put it together yet. You scold them for trading him to a team that helped him put it together but then claim Naraez was dumb luck because you didn't know who he was.

I'm going to throw my hat in the ring and publicy state that I think when we look back a year from now that the Oviedo trade was the great trade that we had no ideal how great it was at the time. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but if I'm right I'm gloating like a MF.

Prospects are 100% for building your team, and sometimes that means trading guys away. And if ownership isn't going to let you play in the deep end then you're going to have to make big swings for guys like Crochet. I don't think Bloom had the balls to make a trade like that.

We paid a fair price for that trade and so far it has worked out amazing. Narvaez was a great trade, Quinn Preister was a great trade, Yhoiker Jajardo was a good trade, I liked teh David Sandlin trade, the Sonny Gray trade should work out great, I'm also very optimistic about the Oviedo trade what gets looked over with him is when he returned, his STUFF+ took a dramatic turn forward he looks like a candidate to be a completely different pitcher. Getting Dick FItts and Weissert for Verdugo. His only two bad trades was Devers and Chris Sale. Sale had been injured hot garbage here for years. It's a bad look winning a cy young but who could have predicted that? and it's not like his year would have put us over the top and Sale regressed last year. Honestly that trade may have been a blessing in disguise because what if we don't trade for Crochet? or even worse what if we extended him or his options get picked up because of his performance and then he retreats back to being injured? The Devers trade I'll mark down as bad, but we still don't know what they can do with Harrison and Hicks and I think it is obvious he was forced into making that trade.

I mean every GM makes bad trades if you exclude everything but the bad trades. I think trades has actually been his strength

I'm still on the Breslow bandwagon, this team could be so much worse with ownership that doesn't allow the CBO/POBO to play in the deep end with the big boys.

This is true, and that kind of rubs me the wrong way and takes away a lot of the goodwill they earned back from signing Bregman last year. He opts out after one year, they win one playoff game that year, and they lose draft picks from it. Not a good look.

Some players are going to dissapoint us next year Some players are going to surprise and outperform next year. I just hope more of the later our on our team.

The thing about career years is this. If people want to suggest regression after a career year, well think of it this way if a player never had a career year AFTER having a career year every single MLB player in the history of the game would have their best season their rookie year and it would be all regression from there. I think Crochet is showing us what he is capable of and baring injury should be/could be just as good to better. CHapman is an interesting case giving his age. Did he just have a really good year? or did the Sox pitching staff unlock something with him? because his control was definitively better last year.

I don't know about all that, and I'm not in love with bringing in Marte (although I certainly don't hate it) but he adds more value in other ways that Pete alonso does not, E.G. defense, speed on the bases. Higher OBP Higher AVG Higher walk rates lower K rate While Marte has had a few below average season he's either been average or plus at 2b most seasons while Alonos has been an absolute horrible defender. Literally the only thing Alonso is better at is hitting Home Runs, and it's not like Marte doesn't hit them as the last 3 seasons he's hit 28,36,25. Again I'm not the president of the Marte fan club but he's definitively more valuable than Pete Alonso.

I love how people assume that all of Duran/Rafaeal/Anthony///Narvaez/Story/Abreu/Crochett/Chapman could regress next year but. Tucker/Alonso/Marte/Schwarber/Bichette would all not or be better

Alonso is power, Marte (who still has good power) literally does everything else better and at a more important at position where we need more help.

Technically he took us for $35 million cash and around $31 million in AAV. But I’d say the biggest crime is losing draft picks for just one year of a guy.

I know this would never happen, but I'd love to see his market collapse and this happen. Not because I don't want Bregman to get paid but because......BORAS

At the end of the day it's the total money that matters more than the AAV. Bregman only got such a high AAV last year because he took less total money. He only took less total money because he thought he could come back this year and get more. All he really has to do is get more than $80 million dollars for it to be worth it. I'm sure he gets much more than that, but I'm not so sure he beats Schwarber or Alonso.

If I was a bookie I'd put the over/under on Bregman at $131 and I wouldn't feel terribly surprised if he lands somewhere above or below that.

No he didn't he opted out because he thought he could get more than 80 million. Any deal that is more than that makes it worth it for him. I think what he signs for is below what him and Boras think but above $80 million. So he'll make out inthe end, but that gap makes me think we will be waiting a while with him.......much like last year

VIOLENTLY AGREEING!!!! I didn't realize I had left my caps locks on but that seemed fitting. I'm going to use this term more, I like it.