Hugh2
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You just can't help yourself can you? I get that you live to temper Sox fans expectations but we did just land Chris Effing Sale!!!
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Didn't Pablo get skinny before and then fat again? I mean he looked pretty darn good in some of these pictures but I'll reserve judgement until he actually PLAYS well and fit. I'm an optimist though, and America loves a good comeback story.
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I agree, see my edit.
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How many teams have fared much better? Developing TOTR potential is the hardest and rarest thing in this game. We could go around in circles all day with this argument. But farm systems are there to supplement the club, and sometimes that means trading from where you're strong for where you're weak. Overall, I think the Sox have done pretty damn well to assemble this team.
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Idk, have you seen Pablo? he's looking to be in the BSOHL. Let's just hope he doesn't fall off the wagon.
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Ok I thought you were implying he did something wrong. What you mean was the Sox may have made a mistake in trading for a guy who was injured? But I highly doubt that is the case, teams are supposed to have access to medical record and perform physicals on guys. Many injuries can be freakish or acute in nature. It's highly unlikely to be able to predict when a guy is going to get injured unless he is already injured. Now you can look at a guys deliver, and arm angle and say "hey, that doesn't look right he will probably get injured don't trade for him" but if that's the basis you're going after then i'd be a little worried about Chris Sale. In reality, how many pitchers miss 1/2 a season to a whole season at least once in their careers? I'd suspect the majority who do not are not good enough to spend significant time in the majors.
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Remember when the Sox had to give up Bogaerts for a pitcher, then it was Betts, then it was they held onto JBJ and others for too long? I've always been a build from within kind of guy who has stuck with the concept of developing your youth. But the time is now, those guys are up and in their prime. You pretty much have C/SS/2B/LF/CF/RF locked up for the next 4 years. Now was the time to build around those guys and Moncada/Basabe had no place on this team. Sure, if they are as good as we think they are you could easily find a place for them but you didn't have to and you got SALE for them. As big of a prospect homer as I am the minor league does provide different avenues to serve your team: Building from within, and trading to fill team needs. It made more sense in the past several years to be more patient with the farm system and to hoard the prospects. But now that we have a playoff caliber team, it made sense to cash in some chips and build around our young talent. I love this deal.
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I bet the Sox don't go after Encarnation
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Not that I disagree with the notion that NOW is the time the Sox should be going for it so in that light this is a great trade. But Benny boy was the guy who gave up one year of Yoenis Cespedes to sign Rick Porcello to a very team friendly contract. I understand that's a hindsight decision, but his motives were that he was buying low on Rick....and was BENNY BOY right.
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I'm sorry but you traded a guy who was considered by many to be the most talented prospect in all of baseball for Pomeranz. If all he is, is a reliever then I hate that trade even more. You traded for Pomeranz because you thought he was a young stud coming into his own. If that's what you believe, then you write off his second half performance on fatigue and stick him back in the rotation with the hopes that a full season of starting has built up some stamina in his arm. I like what Wright did, but he didn't exactly impress down the stretch and Pomeranz was pretty darn good the first half too.
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No. That was a signing bonus not salary.
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Yes, they are. He's ranked the #1 prospect in baseball for a reason. If you don't get the #1 ranked prospect to headline a deal for an ACE who do you get? They also got a pitcher who has TOTRS potential as well. They also got a toolsy CF prospect and a lower level pitcher who throws in the high 90's and has touched 100 (I'm 99% of this unless I'm thinking of someone else) It's a really good deal for both teams.
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True, but prospects are a numbers game. One reason why the Patriots are so great at drafting is because they always stock pile picks. The same could be said of prospects. The more you have the better chance at producing MLbers you have. Getting that second guy back in a trade as a throw in has paid dividends before. I'm ok with this trade, I like it. I'm just pointing out the one thing I didn't like about it, which doesn't really mean anything at all because I'm happy with the overall trade.
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Off the top of my head i can't recall another Sox one, although I'm sure I could find one if I look hard enough. It's not so much the Red Sox as that type of trade with ANYONE. But as I said, that's what I didn't like about it, because the Sox normally do get that other prospect coming back in the trade.
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I don't think so. His best two positions reportedly were CF/2B both which weren't happening in Boston any time soon. at 3B you had Devers who could be just as good. Moncada has MVP potential but that's what you have to give up + to get a guy like Sale. It makes sense for Both teams. Both Moncada and Kopech have some of the highest ceilings in the game but both have elements of risk. You give something to get something. As long as the other two names aren't Groome/Devers I'll be happy. I bet someone like Basabe, Ockimey, Chavis make up the other two.
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BUT... the rotation is stacked. Sale Porcello Price Buchholz...just kidding Pomeranz Rodriguez/Wright
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Without Moncada and Shaw, I really hope it's not Devers. I like Swihart too, but if they aren't including Benintendi or JBJ in the deal I bet he's part of it too.
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My only problem with this is the state of the system is much different now than it was a year ago. A lot of top talent has either graduated or been traded away. Mauricio Dubon would not be #10. 5 guys that were in front of him were traded last year.
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What has Carson Smith ever done wrong? besides having TJ? must pitchers have some kind of injury at some point in his life. I'd be interesting to see what he does this year and next. If he pitches like he did in Seattle we are in for a treat.
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I'll take the high on the MLBer than the Milber any day. I think it's more plausible that the established major leaguer repeats his performance. Also, Thornburg pitched a career year at 27 years old. It's not unlikely that pitchers come into their own at that age, much like Andrew Miller or......Rick Porcello. It's kind of Kimbrel-light esq and I'm much happier with the talent they gave up here.
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The only thing I don't like is this whole 3 for 1 or 4 for 1 that DD seems to do a lot of. Some times those throw ins really amount to something. E.G. Brock Holt. It would have been nice to of got back a lower level prospect in the trade.
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I think we sold high on all three guys, Thornberg gives you insurance if Kimbrel goes down and also if Smith isn't recovered. If neither of those things happen then the bullpen could be really really good with Kimbrel/Smith/Thornberg at the top. Especially if Barnes takes a step forward this year.
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https://twitter.com/RochieWBZ/status/805934009767182336/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw But yeah....comeback player of the year???
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Ok so I registered a new account because I can't log into my account from home. Every time I tried to answer the question to reset my password it told me I was wrong. I'm 99.99999999% sure Ted Williams wore #9 for the red sox oh well. Simple name, I don't need to no trickery aliases.
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He will be a bit of a question mark in his first season back from injury but Carson Smith has the talent and track record to be really really good out of the bullpen. I also am interested to see what someone like Matt Barnes can do in the bullpen, or what role Joe Kelly will have. Still, it would be nice to see them pick up an arm to replace one of those two.