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  1. I get all that, but that's all it is. They mine as well just fine him, yet I still think it's a light punishment.
  2. It makes sense. You can't just rescind the deal, there isn't anything horribly wrong with him as if he needs TJ and is useless for the rest of his contract. It's just as hard to try and negotiate another player, how do you do that? I think the best, most logical solution is to give the Sox a draft. Perhaps I'm being a homer to suggest the Sox get something in return, but at the very least I think it's fair that they LOSE a draft pick. Perhaps the Sox don't get it but they should lose theirs. But the suspension is equivalent to ZERO penalty at all. This is a team not in contention, and it's after the trade deadline and he will still get to deal during the winter meetings. In the end all this is, is a small fine because he will lose a months pay.
  3. He's right though, those numbers are not going to be accurate because guys are hot/cold right now and will not put up slash lines comparable to their season lines to date. Stats are volatile in the short run for all players. However, there are so few games left they can't really differentiate that much at all at this point.
  4. That's averaging about 200 IP per season. That's not exactly high, a lot of pitchers aren't even in the league at age 21 so they are still accumulating innings just not MLB innings. Milb innings put just as much stress on the arm as MLB innings. Some of the best pitchers have been work horses their entire career with little to no arm problems. What is very concerning about Sale is his mechanics, they work for him and tinkering with them might regress him to non ace status but they just spell TJ.
  5. I actually don't think BA weighs upside anymore than anyone else. The lower in the rankings you go the more fluidity there is between prospects. You can make a very strong argument for why #1 is better than #10. But it's almost more of a preference between 98 and 108. The further away a guy is the more tools matter over stats, stats matter more later on because the tools don't mean squat if they don't translate into results. Guys like Ockimey go bust WAY more often than not which is why he's not a top 50 guy.....but he's got talent.
  6. Porcello pitched well tonight. He only really had one bad inning and it was more fluky than anything yet he limited the damage.
  7. So Kluber has a 1.04 Whip which is pretty much identical. If that's the game you want to play then Kluber has more complete games, more shut outs, a lower ERA, more innings pitched, a lower H/9, less HR's, less HBP, more K's, lower FIP(x), and a higher ERA+ To be fair with the exception of strike outs he's only marginally better than Porcello who has shown better control with less BB/9, lower whip and more wins. Looking at it closer, I feel my opinion may have shifted. Porcello definitely closes the gap but it's not like it was a ridiculous statement to put Kluber ahead of Rick...actually if I had to vote for one right now (taking my Sox biases out of the voting) I'd still put Kluber ahead of him. Also, the Guardians are in 1st place with a more commanding lead for what it's worth. Anyways.....go Sox!!!
  8. W/L are often over-rated when it comes to Cy-Young voting. Exhibit A. Felix Hernandez.
  9. It was a no brainer Clay was a goner after the season, and the option wasn't even an option. Leave it to Clay to at least make it a conversation at this point. Still, you can book him for either being injured or sucking for 1/2 the season next year. Can we live with Price/Porcello/Pomeranz/Wright/Erod next year? can Wright repeat, and can Erod show more consistency and contend for a rotation spot. Still, as 700 said Clays problem is durability and I wonder if the money is better spent elsewhere. I'd love to see a trade to update the rotation and use the money to help bring in an Encarnation type.
  10. If the voting were held today, I think theres a strong chance that's right where he'd land. #3. Somewhere......Ben C. is smiling. Or crying.
  11. If you wanted to go by a pure statistical analysis by weighing heavily what these guys have done during the 2nd have and particularly the past 30 days then the rotation looks like: Price.Porcello.Pomeranz.Buchholz. So perhaps you piggy back Erod or throw him in the pen, my only issue is I don't think Erod has ever pitched out of the pen, so I'm not sure how I feel about him being in the bullpen, honestly he could end up being great there. Both Buchholz and Pomeranz have shown the ability to pitch well out of the bullpen.
  12. I know people in here hate WAR but in the 2nd half Porcello is tied for 1st with A.L. pitchers with a 2.1 FWar, and Price is 4th behind him Sale and Verlander. Going down the stretch we have 2 of the top 4 pitchers in the American league right now. SP(1) Price SP(2) Porcello the top 2 is easy. I'm not sure how I'd play them after that, for the most part I'm done with Clay Buchholz but we all know how good he can be when he's on and if he's still in the middle of one of these great stretches I'd have no Problem throwing him as the #3 guy in the playoffs. I'd love to put Pomeranz 4th, but Erod has been better down the stretch and Pomeranz has experience and a track record of being effective out of the pen. Still I might be wary of a guy who is still as green as Eduardo starting a playoff game and it's not like Drew has sucked down the stretch.
  13. Porcello ain't no Cy Young if the season ended today it would be a two horse race between Chris Sale and Corey Kluber. But if the Yankees or Tigers were to make a run down the stretch and these guys were part of it then I think Tanaka and Verlander could really make a strong case for themselves. But I think Porcello definitely belongs with those guys in that second tier behind Kluber and Sale with Tanaka, Verlander and I'd throw Quintana in there too. He's definitely earned all the praise he gets this year and is easily one of the biggest reason why we are where we are. I've reached the point tow here I'm comfortable and confident every time he takes the hill. I love the control; out of all the guys in the Cy Young conversation he has the lowest BB/9 rate.
  14. Against RHP (which he was pretty much brought up to face) it was more like 27% but with a .966 OPS and a .400 OBP. And no Shaw has not been good vs. RHP. He's stunk against LHP all season and I was criticized by some on this board back in late may for suggesting we go after a RHH infielder who could spell him at 3B. That aside, since June 1st Shaw is batting .214/.289/.369 vs RHP for a whooping OPS of .658. I'm not saying Moncada didn't look horrifying last night and that could signal he might not be any better than a pinch runner for this season. But given where you were with Shaw you absolutely made the right decision to give him a shot. We are in the middle of a pennant race for crying out loud, if you have a chance of drastically improving a position in house you give it a go.
  15. If you take defense out of the equation Heyward is a 2.4 WAR player...that seems about spot on to me.
  16. Heyward is regarded as one of the best fielders in the league and he's only really had 2 great seasons and 2 good even if you look at WAR. And in 2013 Victorino put up a plus .800 OPS with clutch hitting and gold glove defense. If anything your examples show that WAR is doing exactly what it's suppose to do and value defense.
  17. What year are we talking about?
  18. No it's only an error if you use two different types of WAR interchangeably. It would be like two different sites arguing on whether or not reaching on an error should be weighed into OBP. If you used just ONE you're still weighing every player against each other on an equal basis. So again I ask you, name a specific time FWar or Bwar got it grossly wrong. If your argument is strong, you should be able to give me at least ONE example if not many.
  19. The team was justified and made the right move giving Moncada a shot, however if he proves he's not ready then he's not ready. I wouldn't NOT start him again but at this point you at least have to sit him for the next game or two. I still think worse case scenario he makes the team better as a pinch runner.
  20. Give me an example where WAR grossly over rates or under rates a guy.
  21. I don't think it will matter, if a player has to run 20 yards to get to a ball he has to run 20 yards.
  22. Yes I used the term scared very liberally and subjectively. I don't actually think people are cowering in the corners trembling in fear when words like UZR/150 come on the screen; although the thought of people curling up in the fetal position at the sight of defensive stats is pretty amusing. What I really meant is when something is new and doesn't have a strong track record or people don't understand it they tend to find reason to dismiss it or just outright dismiss it. I suspect a lot of the other technology that is coming out that tracks a fielders route towards baseballs and the angle and speed in which it travels could further improve defensive metrics one day to the point that they won't really need trained observers.
  23. Yoan Moncada played strictly 2nd for the Elefantes de Cienfuegos in 2012 and 2013 according to baseball reference.
  24. lets also not forget he's a young 21 year old who skipped AAA and was rushed to the majors. But he also put up a .395 OBP and just started to show his power. I think theres more power in the bat as well. It's definitely not great, but its not really a concern of mine at this point either.
  25. Yes but Hernandez has been much more age advances than Holt was, sometimes young skinny guys struggle. Mookie Betts had a .658 OPS his first year in the system but after putting on 15 LB's his bat just took off. Scouts agree that Hernandez filled in his skinny frame a little bit and became a much better hitter. Look at what Hernandez has done at each age vs. Holt. Not saying Hernandez is clearly better than Holt as I said Holt has a track record.....But you can't say he's in a different "stratosphere" to me that implies a stark difference like Comparing Holt to Trout.
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