Hugh2
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I hate the ideal of free agent pitching, especially this class. There’s a lot of former aces who could turn out value or spend the whole season on the DL. Example, Clayton Kershaw. There’s some talent, but everyone is going to be competing for guys like Degrom, and now you’re signing an over 30 year old pitcher to a long term deal at 30 million plus. I wouldn’t mind taking a flyer on a guy like Syndergaard and trading for a TOTRS. Use the money to get a bullpen arm and build a WS caliber lineup.
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You could make an argument for a QO for both, the biggest risk is both accept. Oh no, we need starting pitchers anyways, we have about 1 solid guy who has shown he can stay health in this rotation the last several years and he's not great, not bad just not great. You can still upgrade the rotation and offer some QOs
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The great thing about QO's is even if you blow up your cap that's money you know is coming off the books next year. There's a difference between paying a guy 40/1 and 20 a year X2.
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My only concern is players like he are so volatile, he looks great this year but he could be garbage next year. Three years from now Franchy Cordero could be a good player helping some other team win a pennant. It's a crazy world....I know.
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If Bloom was given the mandate to tarde Betts and shed payroll, which I believe he was, he did well here.
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Some of those guys are fine depth options or might end up being a good platoon/4th outfielder type. But how many of those do you need on your roster? sure if a guy has options you can keep him in AAA, but this team obviously still needs another CF/RF type for next year.
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That's actually a fair point. It's easy to judge a trade in hindsight. You could make a deal that's good at the time and a guy doesn't pan out. Whitesox looked like they got a boatload from the Sox for Chris Sale, but in hindsight those guys did nothing. If anything the premium for 1/2 a year of a player has dropped, which you could argue was the boat the Sox were in looking at the 2020 season. Of course at the time I don't think anyone had an ideal that they would only be playing 1/3 of a season either.
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Seeing what 1 year of control gets you (Mookie Betts) I almost would rather have the draft pick. Maybe not. Regardless plan A SHOULD BE to resign him.
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That's not a horrible lineup. Not too different from what they have now and if they resign Bogey and are healthier it's BETTER....and they're currently 3rd in the AL in runs scored. Again, you assume the Sox aren't going to sign anyone. You really think they're going to pick up Phams option? or start Hosmer if Casas can play?
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They have his ceiling as a middle-of-the-rotation starter. I think they think pretty kindly of him.
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First off, saying he played a season and spent TWO weeks during that season the DL doesn't make the case you think it does. Also, for the majority of his career, he has been a super utility guy and spent a few of his younger seasons as a UP/Down guy and got at bats in the minors. He was never really viewed or used as a starter until very recently. So you're being very misleading, probably not on purpose.
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Catchers are also notorious for being late bloomers, McGuire might surprise people next year. I'm not getting my hopes up and my best guess is he's going to be a massive upgrade over Plawecki, but the Sox really like him. Him and Wong might make a great platoon.
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This is a lineup that consists of ZERO moves being made. Assuming Bogey opts out and the Sox don't pick up Phams option (they wont') they're close to 70-80 million under the cap, and JH always either goes over or comes up close to it. You're also assuming the worse case scenario for everyone and I don't know why you're not plugging Casas in at 1B.
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I mean, I'm not pro trading Devers....but if you're NOT going to resign him this deadline or last offseason would have been the year to do it. Even really great players aren't going to return as much if you're only getting 1 or a 1/2 a year of control. E.G. Mookie Betts trade.
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They still do projections out to 2027 actually. But it comes with this disclaimer This Future Projected Rosters page is NOT intended to reflect our actual roster projections for future years. These rosters only include players who are under team control for the respective future seasons, and do not account for trades, free agent signings, re-signings, future draft picks, or other acquisitions. These projections only include players under team control for future years (even if in some cases that control is subject to a player option). This page will be updated on a monthly basis. https://soxprospects.com/future.htm
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Especially if Kike stays healthy and you get the 2021 Kike. That outfield would be pretty damn good.
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Having a slight overpay for one year of Kike is fine too, it gives them the opportunity to have that money coming off the books next offseason as well. So if they punt the Devers extension it might give them a chance to get under the Luxury tax....if they so choose to do so.
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I think that depends on what you define as "full on fire sale" If they traded Bogey/JDM/Eovaldi.....well those are all guys hitting the open market always this offseason. Doesn't change the holes they need to plug up.
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They may, maybe not exactly how GG is envisioning it but I think they have a vision of what the roster could look like. But I don't think they plan as much based off of that because they know so much can happen, which is why I said in a previous comment, I don't think teams make roster decisions based on guys below AA.
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I like this, I'm ok with Verdugo in RF but I think the team is much better if you upgrade in RF and put Verdugo in LF. This team desperately needed two outfielders always, Kike is 1/2 the puzzle for 2023....and that's assuming he can stay healthy. Not sure how great of a depth option Franchy/Duran is at this point. You hope Duran can take a step forward and maybe at least be a replacement next year, or maybe the bat develops to make up for subpar defense. But I never want to see him in CF/RF again. So if Kike goes down and and Verdugo slides to RF I still want a good CF/RF on this team. Which is why a guy like Nimo still makes sense if you ask me.
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Obviously, not every team operates the same but as a general rule, you don't plan the big league roster on guys below AA. So much can happen between now and then and guys can always move off the position. The SS/3B tandem of Bogaerts/Devers could easily be 3B/1B in a few years. Mayer may lose a step and be better suited for 3B/2B too for all we know. Things don't always work out this way but generally speaking up the middle players are the most versatile on your roster. Mookie Betts was a 2B by trade but moved off position because he was blocked. Unless the guy is knocking on the door in AAA I don't think you worry about that, we could really use another bat to lengthen the lineup. Just think about how much better the offense has been with Kike/Story back. You take that away and shorten the lineup if you don't replace Bogey's bat. Verdugo has the arm for RF, and he's not bad there but I don't think he's great either. I'd still like the Sox to go after a CF/RF type. I don't want another LFer.....we have 10,000 LFer on this team haha.
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It takes several years to fix the farm assuming you hit in the draft, even teams who draft well don’t hit sometimes.
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Wrong! Top prospects get traded for premium players all the time. We traded away the #1 prospect in all of baseball for Chris Sale. And if that’s your philosophy and you can’t develop pitching then guess what? You don’t have any pitching and you lose. When is the last time the Sox developed a TOTRS? It’s been over a decade. That’s a great strategy, but until you get there and you currently don’t have an ace in the pipeline your only options are FA or the trade market. I’m the biggest prospect homer in here, I’d love to retain Mayer and think we likely do, but you won’t see me crying about it if he goes for a young cost controller ACE.
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I think of Betts was offered that money pre-Covid he would have rejected it. I think Betts was dead set in going to FA, but if he stayed here throughout the pandemic he may have came to the table with the Sox. Unfortunately we will never know for certain.
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No he’s not. He had the right ideal though, I think if you want to add quality, cost controller front line pitching the trade market is the way to go. Otherwise you’re spending $200 million plus on a guy who’s 30+ looking to break down. There seems to be injury risk with every pitcher nowadays, but Casas seems like the kind of Prospect you keep, now If Bobby Dalbec turned out better then Casas may be the guy you trade for pitching.