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If healthy Haniger is better. More D and OBP with good pop. That’s a nice player on your roster.
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Imagine being the one guy against signing a 26 year old Rafael Devers
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Lets go Red Sox! Lets go Red Sox!
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No matter what our opinions are, isn’t there a little bit of every Sox fan that wants to see Leonardo DiCaprio go inside John Henry’s head and tell him he needs to spend like he’s the Dodgers. I’ll dream big for a minute. Heck, they could hypothetically resign Bogaerts, #2/3 pitcher, and Judge and still reset and stay big next offseason. Judge $43 Bogaerts $27 Senga $17 You’d probably have to trade for a bullpen arm. If John Henry told you you had to make a big splash this off-season how are you spending $90 million dollars?
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A Devers extension likely will have some type of opt-out, meaning it will guarantee he's here for another 2-3 years but then after that he will be in the same boat Bogaerts is in this year. I'm ok with that, I'd rather take Devers in his 20's than his 30's.
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I think there's a time and a place for everything. Lets say Devers ends up walking after next year but the Sox make a WS run.....was it worth it holding onto him? I'm all for trading players away for something before you lose them for next to nothing, but sometimes it's worth just having one more season of an elite player in his prime.
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If you look at the market for rentals at the deadline, it's not what it once was. Teams don't want to pony up for 1/2 a year of control. The teams that got PAID were the ones who traded away guys with the extra year of team control. The chance to make the playoffs is worth a boatload more than what two months of Bogey would have returned.
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That might be insanely premature. Bogaerts put up a 34 WAR his first 10 years in the majors, he will have to replicate that production for another 10 years to be considered a contender for the HOF. Can he do that late into his 30's?
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People forget how often these big contracts go bad on you. The tigers paid miggy a boatload of money, but after an 8 year 240 million dollar extension he turned into a sub .800 OPS guy who was hurt half the time. Albert Pujols was good in LA but he put up a decade of sub-.800 OPS after being paid for being a perennial MVP candidate. 1/2 the reason this team is in trouble is because they signed the wrong guys. I'm not saying we shouldn't sign Bogey, but this team could be forgiven for letting Bogey walk if the money gets outrageous if they end up extending Devers.
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They were counting on a clean bill of health the second half to make a run. To be fair it worked in 2021…well they fell two games short of a World Series, but that was their plan.
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Bogey wasn’t going to negotiate though, he already cut a deal once he wasn’t going to do it again. What I want to know is what his demands where, because that’s likely what the Sox would have had to offer to stop him from opting out. If that number is $250/8 are you still upset the Sox didn’t sign him for that? Regardless, for both opinions, it would be useful to know.
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I think this is right, but probably in reverse of what red said. He’s not off, but I think it’s on Bloom to negotiate a deal, but with so much money involved he has to go back to John Henry, with that said he probably has an ideal or a window of how high he can go and if negotiations go beyond those figures he has to go up through ownership
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Exactly, whether or not the Sox are right will be determined by what he signs for. If he gets paid somewhere around $200 or less, the Sox played the market correctly; if it’s for another team then it’s just because the Sox didn’t want to sign him for that still. If Bogey ends up signing somewhere else for $230 or above then they over played their hand
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I agree, Bogey took an early extension at easy money once, he was never going to do it the second time around. There’s no way him and Boras would have signed an extension unless it was their asking price. If you think the market is going to pay a guy much less than what he’s asking you let him go to free agency. The Sox aren’t wrong for doing that, but they could still be blamed for not resigning him here.
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In no particular order, DD’s, Blooms, John Henry, the scouting department, and Lady Luck.
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I don’t buy that they’ve severed ties. I’d buy Bogey going to the highest bidder and being ok not returning to Boston….but we knew that the day he opted out.
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I think the Sox are comfortable matching any offer as long as it's not insane, they are banking that the Money Boras and Bogey thought would be out there is in fact not out there. If that was materializing to be the case and I was camp Boras, leaking this would make sense.....It feels like a stunt, I officially want to revoke my 8/217 Bogey prediction and downgrade it to 7/190.
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I love PG, but he's also kind of old and losing it, especially his online grammar which makes me question if he is even writing his own tweets anymore. That was one of the more coherent ones. I still don't buy it. Even if Bogey ends up signing elsewhere I don't buy it. Unless the Sox are deadset on making a run at Turner, and even then why would you cut ties with the other big SS on the market in case you don't make your man?
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the article, tweet whatever. point is, I don't let the media influence my opinions. See what I did there.....ehh ehhh???
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I don't think it's a lock Bogey comes back here, heck I'm not even sure it's 50% but I don't buy that article. That's BS, that stinks of Boras, it's got the Scott stench all over it.
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If Sale was a healthy pitcher, Duran and Dalbec developed into everyday players (that you hoped they were going to by the end of 2021). You could easily look at the budget and this year's FA class and go, well damn....lets sign a pitcher, Bogey and get this guy Abreu in here to be a DH. We don't have that luxury with so many holes to fill.
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You can’t have all 6 of those things but you can have 5. You can do that and extend Devers. Depending on when you reset, you can structure Devers contract to either kick in this year or next.
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You can do all that and still extend Devers, either reset this year, or set yourself up to reset next year and have the extension kick in this year to help lower the AAV throughout the life of the contract. Won't be much, but 2 million a year will help.
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Brasier is not immune to be DFA’d a few others too if they upgrade. Trades could be made too.
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Who says you still can’t get 4?