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It’s like, If they think Yorke is a bust, this is a good trade to add your second baseman. If you don’t think he’s a bust you can always trade him. Aren’t people always talking about trades to improve the roster around here. It does seem like some people are just going to be unhappy no matter what happens.
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Before he lost his prospect eligibility mlb had him at 79. Kids was talented enough to make it to the show at 21, but he was rushed. Sox obviously believe he can play second. If Mayer comes up strong, maybe you can trying moving him to 3B in a few years.
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Sox got rid of Sale, who has managed to pitch a year worth of games over the last 4!!!!! He’s older, can’t stay healthy. The odds that he’s going to turn into a shinning example of durability and longevity is slim. You save a little bit of money, but more importantly you paid it down a little bit to up the return. Which I agree with, unless getting under the cap was paramount, like it should have been at the deadline two years ago, I’m down to throw in money to up any return. You got 6 years of control of a young, 22 year old, who has done nothing but hit. He was rushed to the majors before he was a finished product and still hit, career .320 in the minors. Sox probably hope they can coach him up to a second baseman. They also have a question mark out of the rotation and the spot to add another starter. Anyone who doesn’t like this trade is simply cynical. One can not blame them after the last 4 years but that’s the truth.
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Lol
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His defensive profile scares me, but he was projected to grow into an average fielder, maybe he can be that moved off of SS, maybe not. It’s not hard to be better than what we had up the middle in 2023. His bat looks good, he’s hit everywhere he’s been and is only entering his age 23 season. When he was a prospect in Atlanta’s system he was projected as an above average hitter with the hope he’d start to hit for power. He has the frame and athleticism to grow into some more. If he does that he could easily play a corner if he can’t play D up the middle. He won’t be a free agent until 2030. It won’t take much for him to be more valuable than one year of Chris Sale, especially if Chris Sale is only pitching 15-20 games. I like it. I like it a lot more if they go out and get another pitcher. Not to replace Sale. I want Giolito to replace Sale. I want an upgrade on the mound now. I’ll hold my breath.
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You have to think this is followed up by an additional move to upgrade the starting rotation. They’re also taking a chance on 6 years on a 23 year old who could be their 2nd baseman of the future.
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It's also not uncommon for people in Breslows position to not make any earth shattering deals their first year with a new orgnization where they're still getting a handle on things top to bottom, needs etc etc.
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Me too, seems like he has a strong work ethic. Which I love.
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I don't think it's hard to predict that at all. It's like predicting the climate. Sure, weather varies day to day but you know darn well it will be cold in the winter and hot in the summer. It's easy to rack up a few losing seasons and live off your past success, but eventually that will erode. I think this is the year they start to feel it if this team is a loser. I still think they make money, but I would be surprised if revenues didn't go down during another losing season. It's also generational. Kids grow up rooting for teams and then spend a lifetime as adults watching them, attending games, and buying jerseys. no one likes watching losers, a continuation of losing really hurts their future brand. Shame on Henry if he doesn't know this.
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I would say it's more likely that they are than it is that an asteroid hits eart today. And to be fair, both are not impossible. I just don't see healthy corporations operating like that. I don't think it's a lack of committment as much as it's incompetence. John Henry has a history of being an industry leader, being first, and gaining a competitive edge. He tried to be the smartest guy in the room again and this time he fell flat on his face. Thats how I see it.
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I don't think DUran is going to hold a lot of weight in Chicago. They already have Ian Happ and Suzuki out in the outfield and the top of their farm is loaded with outfiedlers. Although Miguel Bleis might be more intriguing to them. He is further away, so the need could be there by the time he is ready or used in a trade elsewhere and he offers more upside than a guy like Duran. Which is ultimately what you need to offer up for a premium player. BTV (the end all of all trade arguments) does accept this trade. Nick Yorke Miguel Bleis Tanner Houck For Yan Gomes and Justin Steele.
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I'm at a point now where I certainly believe that Henry and Co. do not care as much about the Sox as they once did. I don't think they're completely apathetic, but rather bottom line is of the upmost importance than winning (at least until the bottom line starts to take a big hit) What I continue to disbelieve, and seems to defy every law of business and economics, is that they're robbing peter to pay paul. They have money, they have plenty of equity and the ability to leverage debt to take on any venture they want. They don't need, nor are they funneling money out of Fenways and using to invest elswhere. That's just a narrative that isn't true. That doesn't mean they're not 100% responsible for their product on the field and deserve all the relevant criticism in the world.
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
Hugh2 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Oh it will still be a bidding war to the highest bidder, without a doubt. -
Stroman/Giolito/Paxton are still out there.
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Facts are facts. Opinions are opinions. Fact. All teams make fringe roster decisions. All teams fill out there roster. Even heavy spenders take on reclamation projects. That's a fact. Opinion: I'm mad at the Red Sox because they do what every other team does as well. Because they aren't not doing the thing I want them to do. My opinion. It's not a zero sum game. Hate the Red Sox for not making the big boy moves to improve this team. Don't hate them for making the fringe moves that everyone makes. One seems logical. One is cynical.
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
Hugh2 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I would still consider him considering on what the price tag is. He's a premium player that will cost you something, but him positioning himself as an absolute 1 year rental is going to hurt the Brewers return if they do in fact chose to move him. -
Irrelevant. I'm not saying you ONLY do that, I'm just saying in a vaccuum there's nothing wrong with those types of moves. All teams make them.
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I actually would have been fine with EROD as the secondary guy.
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I think it's self explanatory the differences between Kluber and Giolito
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Right, because developing pitchers is just like beating the s*** out of your girlfriend. Also, you do realize that every team does this? even teams like LA/NY/TX/PHIL bring guys in that they like and think they can fix. Lets wait and see what the opening day 26 man actually looks like. Or better yet, what pitchers are you bringing in to fix the rotation?
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At this point in the offseason what are we really mad at? That we didn't sign Ohtani to 700 million? or Yamamoto to 325 million? Which, with what we know now, both those guys were intent on going to LA and using other teams to get the best deal. We would have had to blow them out of the water. So are we angry we didn't sign Ohtani for 900 million and Yamamoto for 400? LOL Next up. Are we complaining about not signing EROD or LUGO? Every other guy in FA/TRADE is still out there. Every other team needing pitching hasn't made a move yet either. Baseballs offseason is slow, boring, and mundane. Lets put our torches and pitchforks away until at least February, deal?????
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If you can get him right, he would be one of the best pitchers in this class. And it's not like he's an old washed up Corey Kluber, he looked pretty damn good for the first 2/3 of the season. For 3 years in a row he wasa top 11 candidate for CY YOUNG, and that's only two yers removed, and he looked returned to form for most of last year. Something happened, this is what good teams do, they bring guys like him in and fix him. Sox have just sucked at it lately. Breslow and company might be able to get him back on track.
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Made 21 starts to begin the season pitched 121 innings with a 3.71 ERA. is still only 28. If you can get Giolito right, he could be the best signing of the offseason.
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
Hugh2 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
see above lol. Wasn't joking that much on my last one, I forgot how deep they were in the outfield. -
Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
Hugh2 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Teams also use their own internal projection systems. We could only imagine how much they vary from player to player. BTV is a useful tool, but it's not the be all end all, and it certainly can not take into account team needs, and teams internal evaluations. 75% of the time I use it, I'm just effing with people.