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Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
He’s been a 1.4 bWAR each of the past 2 years… -
Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
Very cursory and misleading summary. He came out slow for the first 2 weeks in April. Then started crushing the ball (.953 OPS the last 20 games), got hurt and missed 6 weeks. Struggled his first 15 games back in June. Then crushed again (.899 OPS) through July and August. And at some point tore his labrum and struggled playing through it. He has talent and he can hit. He needs to stay healthy… -
And the price wasn’t so ridiculous. The Orioles traded away two top 100 prospects for just one season of Corin Burnes less than a year ago…
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Mayer and especially Teel had the clearer paths to MLB than Montgomery, as the Sox control Duran, Rafaela, Abreu and Anthony all for the next 4 seasons minimum. Teel is a big deal, as the Sox have nothing better than Wong above A ball (and maybe not even there). Mayer, who’s only 4 months older than Montgomery, is already in AA and blocked by an oft-injured player who will definitely clear a path for Mayer by accident at some point. As the White Sox best prospect is an MLB-ready shortstop named Colson Montgomery (no relation), I imagine that helped tip the scales in favor of Teel.
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Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
They can also demote him to Worcester, as he has options. And they might when he comes back if he misses time early on. But he’s not getting traded… -
Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
1985? The year he cut down on his errors by getting to fewer batted balls? And you were 7? Maybe? B-R does give him 1 dWAR-ish for most of his years back then, which is good. Fangraphs doesn’t bother backfilling that data, but they do give him excellent defensive runs marks. So maybe he’s one of those guys that later evaluation techniques assessto be much better. Of course, he was still a left-handed hitter with limited power… -
Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
I think he won’t be missed because he won’t be gone… -
Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
They have obviously tried to trade Casas already. If they’re actually moving him, then Yoshida becomes more necessary. My prediction would be that when the season starts, Casas will be at 1b and Devers at 3b and they’ll ignore the defense, and that decision will be independent of Yoshida. And Yoshida was hitting pretty well until he hurt his shoulder… -
Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
The Sox aren’t trading Yoshida. Not coming off surgery. He’ll be the DH once activated and platoon with Refsnyder in that role. Add a RHH left fielder (Teoscar? Taylor Ward? Nick Castellanos?) and a catcher that can be had on a longer deal than 1 year. And the lineup will be complete, barring any re-arrangement for defensive purposes… -
Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
Baseball-Reference also gave Yoshida -0.9 dWAR for playing 1 inning in LF when nothing got hit to him. Thats your source? Early on in Boggs career, he was a very sloppy third baseman. He did improve in time… -
Article: To Trade or Not to Trade: Masataka Yoshida
notin replied to Adam Morgan's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
That formula did work out before with Swamp Shark movie star Wade Boggs… -
Law needs new material. He used to say that about Sale as well…
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One of the few?? NOBODY bought into. It was more of a running joke all off/season. Heck I kept calling Kennedy “Squealer”. (That is a literary reference, in case you weren’t one of the few to catch it.) because of the way he gave public statements…
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
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Means is looking at a deal anywhere from minor league contract to $1.5mill (aka The Fulmer Deal), and people are all up in arms like this is their Big Move for the off-season… -
Last year, Crochet was very open to an extension after a trade. I think he’ll get one. No idea on money/ years…
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I live in White Sox/Cubs country. It’s hard to cry “cheap ownership” to those fans. But I will say, far too often when fans call any owner cheap, they’re only referring to new money spent this year…
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Paying Fried got a lot less likely with the Yankees involved anyway. The Sox can’t outspend the Yankees, but they can put together better prospect packages…
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He really isn’t, sadly enough. Especially when compared to other owners. I mean, you’re calling a guy cheaper because he was outbid after putting up SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. In one bid for one player. How many full season payrolls spread across multiple years do you have to add up from the Pirates to get to $700mill? Or the Reds? Or As, Rays or Brewers? For all his penny-pinching, the Sox still had the 11th highest payroll in MLB. Over half the teams spent even less. Hell the Nats non-tendered their ALL STAR CLOSER a couple weeks ago because they didn’t want to pay him $4mil. Now THAT is being cheap…
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And sometimes it gets to the point where money is no longer a factor. When Trea Turner reached free agency, San Diego was determined to sign him at all costs. Philly was in it, too. Offers went back and forth a few times and his deal kept escalating. But Turner’s wife is from Philadelphia, and she wanted to go back there. Turner had to tell San Diego to please stop bidding. And of course they did. And took the bulk of the money they didn’t give Turner and spent it on another shortstop - Xander Bogaerts. Which is why his contract got so ridiculous as well…
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Are you selling your car any time soon? Please let me know. The offer was FIFTEEN THOUSAND or lottery tickets, and you only want the cost of the tickets?
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Also, it is impossible to measure top 25 vs unranked. The numbers are going to be lopsided. There are certainly more players in MLB that were never ranked in the top 25 than ones that were, for example. Way back when, I briefly scoured a few years worth of BA Top 100 lists that were old enough (even at the time) that the players had established themselves. I did find on any list of BA Top 100, you get (usually within +/- 5 the following: 10% All Stars, quite often multiple times 30% MLB starters, SPs and closers 30% Utility infielders, reserve outfielders, middle relievers 30% that simply never make MLB, beyond maybe a September call up. Having good prospects is essential, but counting on them? You’ll be disappear more often than elated…
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Ok, let’s make it 100 chances at $50,000,000. You in yet? (These are $2 tickets, by the way. No 33% chance of winning anything here.)
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So you’re saying they shouldn’t even try? I’d have been a lot more disappointed if they said “well, we did want Soto. But then the Mets got involved, so why bother?”
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I do think owners have the opposite viewpoint as fans regarding spending. As shown repeatedly on this thread, the fan logic is “but Fried only costs money.” I think for ownership, the folks who pay those views, the logic is closer to “but Crochet only costs prospects.” And prospects can be enticing with their potential, but the reality is many are lottery tickets with regards to actual MLB output. Now, if you could pay your bills with lottery tickets, wouldn’t you? “I could put $15,000 down on that Tesla. Or I could instead give you TEN CHANCES to win $50,000,000!!”
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Just because YOU prefer Fried doesn’t mean he has the better future. Crochet might flop, but the risk is much less. Sign Fried for 8 years at $220+ mill and if he turns into David Price 2.0, where does that leave the Sox? Still needing pitching with a lot less to spend on it. But hey, maybe Breslow can pair him up in a trade with Roman Anthony in hopes that some other team takes on half of that contract! Also, why is Crochet with one good season a flash in the pan, but Teel with no seasons at all suddenly the “catcher of the future”?
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