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  1. Yeah i think writing off that difference invalidated the whole comparison...
  2. Even then, they had a steep hill to climb. They were 18 games behind the Yankees pre-Cole...
  3. Only inasmuch as all we got for him was a pitcher who never got off the DL...
  4. Pollyanna U's football team would crush the s*** out of Complaining State. But guess which team would be whining to the press afterwards?
  5. His point was you completely misused the phrase "distinction without a difference" due to the massive situational difference. Unless you have some brand new definition of the word "distinction" that applies here...
  6. In some ways, yes. Devers is the most obvious example. But I am not as confident in the Price/Sale rotation front as I was in 2017. And even then, if 2020 does not pan ut and the Sox win 85 games again, then what? The team is in even worse shape overall. The Sox last year did not make the post-season for one big reason - pitching. Their offense was the best in MLB to not make the post-season, if you go by fWAR or by Runs Scored. They could afford to let some offense go in order to get some pitching. Graterol on his own isn't going to make up that difference. But he can make up part of it, and the $20mill tax space the Sox have can make up another part of it. It won't be easy, but it is not impossible...
  7. The current crew includes a bullpen you did not like much at all last year, and even wanted Bloom to upgrade this year. This isn't the 2018 team back together. That team had Kimbrel and Kelly in the bullpen, and had a rotation featuring Price and Sale at 2 years younger. And had Porcello eating innings and actually pitching pretty well. Hoping for a run at another title when the team won only 85 games last year seems like a bigger stretch to me...
  8. The Sox would have had about $140million tied up over the next 3 seasons in Betts, Bogaerts, Price, Sale, and Eovaldi. If they maintain the lofty $240mill payroll, unlikely as that is, that leaves $100million to spend on 35 other players, or $2.85 million per player. Safely assuming 14 of those players make the league minimum on the 40 man roster, accounting for $7.6 million, that leaves $92.6million for 21 other players, who now make $4.4mill each. And obviously, with Benintendi and ERod on the roster making higher than that, the Sox have less than $4.4mill per player to spend. Obviously, you can spend more per player for every additional minimum wager on the parent club, but a $4.4mill average means you get players like Eric Sogard and Travis Shaw. Can you build a winning team all those Shaws and Sogards around the core?
  9. Some small superficial similarities. The entire reason for the Betts trade was this team was aging, expensive and has no farm to speak of. The Sox were not headed in a good direction, and "one last shot at a title" is a much. much bigger pipedream than thinking Betts won't come back in 2021...
  10. If the Sox had Mookie for his whole career, they would not have been able to put a decent team around him for a few years, They just lack the dirt cheap contributing young players coming up thru the pipeline right now that make the larger contracts less burdensome. This team would have turned into the Angels/Yankees of the 1980s with a bunch of heavily paid underperformers and no real bright spots coming up...
  11. I doubt they sped much on an outfielder, unless they plan to trade Benintendi...
  12. Right. Sort of like how the guy who powers up the electric chair is just as guilty of murder as the guy sitting in it...
  13. Are Sox fans ready to compare him to Carl Pohlad now?
  14. THe guy has spent a few billion on this team since he took over. Calling him cheap is a bit unfair and frankly, very incorrect....
  15. Complaining State?
  16. You left out a massive historical difference. That Mookie was dealt during free agency and had one year left on his deal. The Red Sox could have kept Babe Ruth for the remainder of his career if they wanted to and there was nothing he could do about it. But Betts had the option to leave and fully intended to explore the market...
  17. Melodramatic much?
  18. And you were right about it. But when it came to Betts, there was never going to be a reduced price tag to acquire him. It would be too easy and too tempting for teams to outbid a lowball offer...
  19. I have thought about that. Possible, but not likely. But then I don't know where the Sox stand payroll wise right now, beyond that they are under the limit...
  20. The counterargument becomes, while they had the potential for greatness, what were the realistic chances? The Red Sox won 85 games last year with Betts, and winning 85 games again is a lot more likely than winning 108 games again. And then what? Betts would be gone for nothing but a draft pick. The Red Sox would still have Price, who has pitched 358 innings in the last 3 years combined. Will that total increase as he ages? Not likely. In 2018, the Red Sox got 334 IP from Sale and Price. Last year, they got 254. Neither total is really that impressive, but which direction do you anticipate that total heading. And I haven't even gotten in to Eovaldi and his durability issues yet...
  21. And that part was silly. You cannot dangle Betts out there without making this the obvious strategy...
  22. So you think of him as being like Squealer from "Animal Farm"...
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