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Everything posted by notin
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I think it is bigger than you think. Really, star or not, if you get the minimum wage starter, then it becomes easier to retain your stars. Fr example, if the Sox still had Margot and Allen, sure neither are stars, but also maybe they do not extend Eovaldi and repeated extend Bradley. Now while Allen is hardly stellar, we would say the same thing about any prospect who gave us what we have gotten from Eovaldi, who has given us 105 IP of 5.57 ERA (86 ERA+) since signing that deal after 2018. That representant close to $85mill i right there. Certainly not enough to retain Betts on it's own, but a big chunk of it. And the decisions can be piled on to it. Was the Sale extension done (which it clearly appears to have been) because he was injured and unable to pitch? Should that have been done? That's another $145 mill and we still have to replace him anyway. And how many of those 5 years will he be effective?
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But this is year 6 of his deal.. In the previsous 5 years, Lester posted an ERA+ of 118, which is essentially what the Sox got from Price (also ERA+ of 118) but for 354 fewer IP and for $73 million more...
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If he throws 180 innings, he’s better...
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If you like, I can play it forward a bit, to when we trade Devers so we can hold onto so mid-30’s overpaid hype like Trevor Bauer and Marcus Stroman. But you’re going to have to accept that the “we didn’t give away any exceptional players” crap is actually not the point...
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Maybe, but Ben had to get the team out of “sell mode” before I can accept that...
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No pitching? The Sox did draft Brandon Belt as a pitcher a while back, but I think that ship has sailed...
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The Shane’s. The Sox could increase the return by taking back the contract of Kevin Kiermaier, which helps clear up the CF logjam for Tampa and clears a path for Margot or Arozarena. Vazquez to Tampa for Kiermaier, McClanahan and Trevor Richards. Boom. Done...
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Bingo. For example, we could use a 2b right now...
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Not all at once. I hated that Cherington never traded any. Dombrowski traded them all. We need a happy medium. Trading all the prospects left the Sox with no minimum wage replacements, and that was likely a factor in not signing Betts...
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If I could have filtered the ads, I would have...
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And really, who from Dalbec, Houck, Casas, Chavis, Ward, Song, Mata and Duran is a quality MLB player?
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Except that they can still be traded before they don’t turn out. Tony Armas Jr. was a good prospect, for example, and probably one of the most important ones in Sox history. But not for his pitching...
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When people talk about the low-ranking farm, it doesn’t mean no one in is capable of playing in MLB ever. It means we have fewer and lesser prospects than other teams...
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Funny thing about walks. They don't count less just because you're younger.
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For you
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Is Ward's issue with walks (3.9 BB/9) really that much more of an issue than Deivi Garcia's (3.8 BB/9)? That's all of 1 walk for every 90 innings, or maybe 2 per season...
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Or retire...
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While I don't think the Sox are going to let every expensive player walk, what would you prefer? To be in contention every year or have a player Devers on the occasional last place team?
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No, but it is a lot for a pitcher who has missed almost all of the last 2 seasons. He's become Tyson Ross with a better pedigree. And no one offered Tyson Ross an MLB deal last time he reached free agency. When you start using the phrases "$5 mill" and "multiple Cy Youngs" in the same sentence, that's an admission that there is something very wrong or very risky here. Kluber only gets a guaranteed deal if he starts receiving multiple offers, which is possible, but certainly not a guarantee. In fact, there is no guarantee he could pass a physical...
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I think they do want them to pitch above A-ball before they reach MLB. The 4 prospects ranked ahead of Houck - Mata, Ward, Groome and Song - have combined for 53.2 innings above A ball, all of them from Mata. And he did not exactly dazzle at that level himself to the tune of a 5,03 ERA / 1.45 WHIP...
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He pitched 5 innings against the Marlins. It was a terrific debut, but possibly too small of a sample size to go thinking the entire scouting industry got everything wrong...
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And presumably more good years and a better ROI...
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I would agree, although I wqould hope hje would be less wary of a legitimate generational superstar at age 27 than a 31yo pitcher with a very good (but not generational) resume...
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It becomes much less probable when you do not have that many in the farm system. Because if you do not supply them yourself, it is very difficult to acquire them from other teams or free agency (especially when you cannot spend because you have a ton of cash tied up in one superstar)....
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No chance on a minor league deal? The guy has 36 IP since 2018. I do not see many teams if any throwing a lot of guaranteed money at him, especially since a lot of teams might not be spending at all.
