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Duran is not a "good hitter" anymore. I'm not confident Jones is either, but they must see something about him, and it is likely his platoon value. Duran is a LHB and we need a RHB more than a LHB, even with Romy's return.

Good reply. It seems we have a bunch of guys that could be DHs, someday and some might be emergency 3rd catchers or pushing it as back-up C and DH types. The problem with DH'ing your #2 catcher is if he's needed as a catcher mid-game, but that is not the end of teh world. I do think Brannon and Jo Garcia may hit well enough to be a DH by 2028. I think Cespedes gets traded and now my be the best timing on that. Agree on Gonzales- maybe late '28 is best ETA. Arias is probably the only near immediate & significant everyday help we will see. It's time for some pitchers for bats trades, but look how the Priester and Harrison trades have been evaluated, recently. Sale for Grissom was a disaster. Can Winnay play 1B after Contreras is gone?

You crack me up.

BTV Accepts: Story, Azocar & Wong for Hunter Goodman & Ezequiel Tovar also... Story, Arias & Mayer (could play 3B or 2B) for Neto

BTV gives Duran a value of $8M. It accepts a trade of Duran to HOU for Janek and Blubaugh, but I'd do it for one. BTV accepts Story and Duran for Lindor, but to me the $$$ cost would be too costly.

One of the guys I mentioned Masa playing over was Duran. You only mentioned Sogard over Masa. Do you still think that a week or so later? 1.092 last week 1.008 last 2 weeks .898 last 4 weeks. I'm still no Masa fan, but he deserves to platoon at DH, for a while, anyway. No Sogard. No Duran. Not even Romy vs RHPs is better.

They must hope he reverts to 2025 numbers. That may be a better hope than Duran revrting to 2024 numbers. He's a platoon bat, at best and may be DFA'd by the deadline.

I think they'd be happy with .773.

Oh, yes, I thought Coulombe was for Sandoval, but Jack Anderson was. My bad.

Yup, and with Anthony, I'm already thinking surgery was likely the best option, if done 2 months ago. We simply cannot make deadline plans based on the idea that either will help us. That's one major reason I'm still leaning "sell." Suarez will help, but he's barely been gone, so we can't look at him as a major boost, except it may force Rivera or Sandoval to the pen, and help there- again- nothing major. I don't count Contreras as even being missing. Story? LOL, He may bring us down. Casas? LOL!!! Oviedo, Crawford or Houck? Nope. Sogard? I'd rather have Seigler & Monasterio. IKF? He was doing well before going on the IL, and should be an upgrade over Cheng, but he'll be a platoon SS hitting about .700 at best. That's not a major gain. The best two hopes for "help" might be Early and Mayer, and mayer is a huge question mark on projected value. Early may need surgery.

Yes, in 2025, but .773 from 2025 to 2026. (210 PAs)

So, who goes? Duran?

I have never said Duran's name was not discussed. It's weird that we never even heard such and such a team is interested in Duran. Like I said, maybe there was some mild interest, but it never got mentioned because Brez snuffed it out early on by making high return value initial demands. I'm well aware that could be the case, I don't think 15 teams wanted Duran at $7.7M on opening day or before for anything more than a halfway promising single A player. Maybe I'm wrong. He had a lot of baggage beyond $7.7M, which is actually a lot of money to half the teams. Take BAL, a near 15th ranked budget team. $7.7M would be their 9th largest contract. At least 10 teams have payrolls around $100M or less. I doubt any felt Duran was worth 8% of their budget. Yes, I heard very specifically that HOU would give Paredes for Abreu. I'm sure many other teams would want a GG OF'er who hits .780 and has no "baggage." My point all along has been that I wish I had some names of players we could have gotten for Duran. Maybe we'd look at the list and say, "Okay, Brez made a mistake, but not as big as we think it might have been." I do think we could have gotten someone good for him right after 2024, but who else wanted him traded then, maybe MVP or notin? It seems everyone else called us nuts for even suggesting a trade, then.

He should never bat vs LHPs. Career splits: .742 v L .478 v R 2025-2026 .773 v L .530 v R Is he out of options?

I kinda feel like we have to expect no Anthony or Crochet return, and if anyone (Early will be on an IP limit, Oviedo, Crawford & Houck are long shots and IKF & Sogard are utility types.) other than Suarez returns, it won't be really significant. Only Suarez and Contreras will help, IMO. If we trade, we cannot trade based on thinking _____ & Anthony should be enough or ______ and Crochet should be enough.

I'm not either, and that's why I'm still (slightly now) on the sell side of the fence.

On the Beslow thread, I mentioned I am not a big Yoshida fan, but he's the best DH we have vs RHPs right now, and I listed all the other options. You responded... If you need all those dudes and Seigler comes down to earth, just have Sogard DH instead of Masa. There is no drop off between the two anymore. You have also said You'd have DFA'd Yoshida, before.

Top fWARs since June 18th (full month after ASB) T4. Durbin 1.4 T59. Rafaela 0.6 T97. Contreras 0.4 T125. Seigler, Abreu & Yoshida 0.3 Everyday Players: 6 at 0.3 or higher Pitchers: 7 at 3.0 or higher T10. Bennett & Suarez 1.0 T20. Gray 0.7 T32. Slaten 0.6 T45. Tolle & Early 0.5 T63. Whitlock 0.3

I just said that about Yoshida and you called me out for saying it.

Maybe the idea is Paredes DHs or plays 3B while Durbin plasy 2B. Like I said, I don't put much value in what people say, unlike the resident clown poster.

Yes, that is what I meant, and if we pay his remaining 2026 salary in any trade, we'd lose no money. If we could get a decent single A prospect, maybe that is the best we can hope for. My question is whether that is worth more than any upside Duran might have. If we ax Yoshida s you suggest, Duran as a DH vs RHPs and as a PR'er might have more value than a single A prospect. "Might."

Monasterio has done well vs LHPs, but Cheng has not done that well vs RHPs. His defense is real good. Seigler has been great, but I'm not sure he can keep this up. He was the 23rd player elected in the 2018 draft, so maybe he's just a late bloomer at age 27. Durbin has been a main reason for our turn-around. It should also be mentioned he was a main reason for our crappy start, too. If Durbin, Seigler, Monasterio, Phillips, Holobetz, YRod and Owen Hull for Harrison, Drohan, Priester & DHam If these are two of the worst 3 trades Brez has ever made, I'm not sure that's such a bad thing, especially when you consider he's made about 25-30 trades in less than 3 years. (I'm assuming Sale is the other of the worst 3.)

Indeed, and there is even time for that Priester trade to turn around. He may never come back to "form," and these guys may step it up: Phillips: ranked 12th & struggling out of the gate Holobetz: ranked 13th but first in IP on the farm with a .712 OPSA (80K/72 IP) Y Rod: ranked 43rd but 9th in HRs (12) and only 7 players on the Sox farm have more PAs and a higher OPS (.741.)

Could these be possible Sox trade targets? OPS v LHPs since 2025 1.030 Langeliers .961 Andrew Vaughn .949 Yordan Alvarez .928 Sal Stewart .921 Jo Adell .920 Maikel Garcia .915 Coby Mayo .909 Taylor Ward .908 Hunter Goodman .907 KMarte .898 Jeffers .867 Andujar .858 Hoerner .857 Steer .856 Torkelson .855 Clement .851 Reynolds .849 G Torres .847 Neto .840 Jordan Beck .827 Springer .824 Francisco Alvarez .822 Matt Shaw .820 Bichette .798 Okamoto .797 Jake McCarthy .772 Jeremy Pena .748 Refsnyder (LOL)

That was insane. Didn't his little son make up a line-up in that stretch?