Bellhorn04
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The thing about Houck and Whitlock that makes them different from a guy like Chad Green is that they have legit potential as starters. It's a fundamental and logical principle that guys that are good enough to be starters should not be relievers.
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The '2013 was a fluke' thing was more about the last place finishes before and after, no?
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Yes, and not moan and groan for years about it later.
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My guess would be there's a huge difference in how they throw those 25 pitches. But Cora did of course try this to a limited extent in the 2018 postseason. And then you may have heard about this Restgate thing the next year...
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It did work out, mainly because the pitchers that were at Roberts's disposal are all pretty freakin' good. I'm not sure it produced any advantage.
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Right, for these things we like to call 'situations' that crop up regularly and randomly...
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I don't much see the point in talking about it if it's something they or any other team simply wouldn't do. We might as well talk about getting starters back to 200 innings...
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You're dreaming, man. This is just not a real possibility, and you know it. When not even the Rays will push a multi-purpose reliever past 75 innings, you're not going to see a maqical jump to 100 innings and more. Remember Scott Proctor? If not look him up. Torre rode him a little too hard and ended his career early.
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That's all water under the Tobin. What I'm saying is that going forward, you can't really count on many durable Hall of Fame studs like Scherzer coming along. You're more likely to get another Price, frankly. Price's career numbers suggested he would hold up better than he did.
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10/15 ALCS Game 1 @ Astros
Bellhorn04 replied to Thunder's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Some of us have speculated that the injury concerns were factored into the deal. $145 million is a lot of money, but it's a lot less than some pitchers have gotten on long term deals, with Cole of course setting the new bar at $324 million. -
10/15 ALCS Game 1 @ Astros
Bellhorn04 replied to Thunder's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
And sometimes you have to say to a player "let's see what you've got". Hopefully Sale will kick ass. But if not, I'm quite sure there's a Plan B, and Houck or Pivetta are probably involved in that plan. -
10/15 ALCS Game 1 @ Astros
Bellhorn04 replied to Thunder's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Some Sox fans think we should only use a 3 man pitching staff of Eovaldi, Houck and Whitlock the rest of the way. -
Stanley may have been the last of the 'rubber arms'. I think Whitlock and Houck probably throw too hard to be able to do anything like that. It's just a different game now in many ways.
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Scherzers simply don't come along very often.
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This needs confirmation, but I believe that the 14 pitcher limit is a temporary pandemic rule and if things ever get to post-pandemic, it will likely go back to 13.
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Speaking of Whitlock, that job he did in Game 4 has to go down as one of the great moments ever for a Red Sox reliever. Comes in with a man on second, no outs, tie game, 8th inning, and proceeds to get 6 outs on 15 freakin' pitches, keeps the run from scoring, and makes a great heads-up fielding play backing up third base on the overthrow! Thanks Cashman!
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And oddly enough, the Dodgers are doing the opener thing tonight instead of Urias starting. I don't get it, really.
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I'm not sure how that would work. Your idea sounds a lot different from moon's. He's basically picturing the 2 guys pitching the 8th and 9th inning, up to 70 games each or so, for well over 100 innings each.
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The trend in the game is toward limiting innings. We're not going to see the re-emergence of 1978 Goose Gossages.
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Personally I would rather be a little more conventional and not risk the health of prized assets such as Whitlock and Houck, thank you very much.
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Kittredge logged the most innings of any Rays reliever/opener, at 71.2, almost identical to Whitlock.
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They just can't pitch that many innings in relief. Nobody does. Whitlock pitched 73 innings this year. I think 80 is a reasonable ceiling.
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What??? You're imagining each of them pitching every other game?
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Our hot streak is only 8 games old. They can last a month.
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But if they're capable of being effective starters who can give you 160 innings each, do you want to restrict them to 80 innings each instead?
