Bellhorn04
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Well, for one deliberately oversimplified example of the decision chain: Henry decides how much Breslow can spend. Breslow decides how to spend it. Cora decides on lineups and pitching changes etc.
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Hey Dad, who's pitching against the Sox tonight? "Corbin Burnes, son."
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At the very least they missed an opportunity for a great PR promo: The Return of Sale Day!
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Bello might be the new E-Rod in the luck department. Last night he got both run support and a tremendous assist from Bernardino.
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No idea why you keep saying this. It obviously made no sense to pick up the team option early. It's a strawman argument.
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Because: -Our offense has been terrible -First base is an offense-first position -Cooper and Smith have been terrible -Kavadas has a 1.031 OPS, 10 HR and 30 RBI for Worcester
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Where are you getting that from?
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You're just not grasping the facts here. The Red Sox are paying $17 mill, so the cost of keeping him was $10 mill.
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Hypothetical question: if Sam Kennedy said that one of the biggest reasons they traded Sale was to cut $10 million from the payroll, would that change some opinions of how the move is viewed?
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Sale also only had one guaranteed year left.
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It's not like Giolito was a rock solid no doubt choice after the horror show he put on in the second half last year.
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You're just not following what I'm saying at all. I've never said it was about counting on him. It was about having little to lose and maybe plenty to gain by keeping him.
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Tyler Glasnow has a pretty bad injury history too, but the Dodgers traded for him and paid him $136 million. Mainly because of his proven potential. Certainly not because of his record of durability. Glasnow's innings the last 4-5 years look remarkably similar to Sale's...
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They could easily have kept Sale and signed Giolito. The more the merrier. It was stupid subtracting a guy who still had the potential to contribute high end results, all to save $10 million and pick up a prospect.
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I see the same numbers as moon does on Fangraphs. -0.2 and -0.4.
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Kluber would have been acceptable as a depth signing. The problem was he was the only signing. That's what made it into a disaster. Sale was virtually a sunk cost situation. Totally different.
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These are tough calls. The earlier you sign them the cheaper, but there's also the chance they never live up.
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The only thing is that when he did pitch, he still pitched pretty well. He showed that the ability was still there. That's why the Braves decided to take a shot. To me it's a tale of two teams. One of them acting like a big market team trying to win, the other continuing to kick it down the road in spite of the full throttle ********.
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And Smith has been awful in every area. I don't see where there's a lot to lose.
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Correct. I assume they had already decided to sign Gioloto. The $10 million reduction on Sale made it fit into the payroll budget. Slammin' Sam Kennedy told us the payroll would be lower this year. It was one of the times he was being honest.
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Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition, either. Sale had a 2.1 fWAR last year in 102 innings. You knew that, right? If the Red Sox didn't think there was any chance of him coming back like this, they're idiots.
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When you're cherry picking examples you can find both. When you're doing a global evaluation it can't be both. I'm pretty sure you realize that.
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And that's what pisses me off about this trade - I think trimming some money had a lot to do with it. A big market team that wants to win would hold onto Sale and hope for the best, and they'd spend to get another right handed bat.
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There are also teams like the A's and Pirates and Marlins that haven't made many postseasons in a while. The Rays are basically the one exception. The overall correlation between spending and winning is real.
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Just replace Smith with Kavadas and keep Cooper. That's what moon's been saying. I already said Dalbec is done. We didn't get Smith and Cooper on a package deal.
