Bellhorn04
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You said: "The Sale trade hasn't hurt us." Sale has about a 2 WAR and Grissom is in negative territory. Plain and simple, yes, it has hurt us.
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There was a very mixed initial response to this trade, from what I observed. A lot of people liked it because Grissom seemed like a really good get and of course many wrote Sale off. But some questioned what the hell we were doing moving Sale when everyone agreed the team's biggest need was starting pitching. At the time, no one but no one expected Houck and Crawford to be as good as they have been so far.
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Yeah, who needs a pitcher with a 1.9 fWAR on May 20. That'd just be a luxury.
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So what, though? Pitching is a high risk profession, period. Would Sale have had a better career with different mechanics? Can anyone honestly say?
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Yes, our run production has been erratic to say the least.
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Yeah, the critics in the armchairs always know what's what. What if there was no other way for Sale to pitch and be successful? Plus even with all the injuries, he's 9th among active pitchers in career innings.
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Why wouldn't they try to fleece us as much as possible?
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Any inclination he'd be healthy? He was healthy at the end of 2023 and he's obviously very healthy now. Obviously no one knows if he'll stay that way for the next 5 months.
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Maybe the team that traded for him?
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You said: now it's like he was never a question mark and a negative impact on 4-5 season teams in a row. That's making stuff up.
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What about his OPSa, though?
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No. No one is trying to re-write his injury history or saying it didn't hurt us. You're just making that up, frankly.
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For notin, that is.
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Last 6 games: 39 innings 50 K's 3 BB's
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Yeah, most sports fans are pretty predictable. They like performance and they hate injuries. The Sox did not have very compelling reasons to make this trade, is the real point, IMHO. They had so little to lose by keeping Sale.
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Why was he overrated as a reliever, exactly?
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We should probably stop gushing over Houck and Crawford's "mini-sample sizes" too, I guess.
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Most of us were all in on signing 2 free agent starters, IIRC. The names were different because there were a lot available. I liked Gray and Montgomery. I wouldn't have minded Lugo. I was all for Imanaga. I wasn't being super picky.
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I was always hoping for the best with Sale, including going into this year, before we traded him. I thought maybe we finally had a chance to reap some benefit from the extension and that we could exercise the option for 2025. But the Braves were there to pounce on our small market ways.
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But he also only has one walk. His K/BB ratio is 11 to 1. And he apparently cannot launch the ball into the air so he's not capable of taking the fielders out of the equation. That aside, the real news is that Hamilton is suddenly looking like a legit option at 2B...
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Terrible, terrible argument, Hugh. I can't believe you made it. We'd be a couple games better right now with Sale. We'd have 3 studs instead of 2. We've had 6 bullpen games and lost 4 of them. The fact our overall pitching has been excellent doesn't mean having a better pitcher wouldn't improve our record. It's just simple logic and math.
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A Cap'n Obvious comeback unworthy of a man of your considerable baseball acumen.
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Sale is pitching tonight, I should probably shut up about him now until I see how that goes.
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We didn't need to do an extension. We had an option on him for 2025. Like I say, what irks me is that we didn't have much to lose by keeping him. It was a needless move.
