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  1. Bellhorn04
    C'mon man, we're in a hypothetical wonderland here, you can't get stuck on what actually happened.
  2. Bellhorn04
    Get it done Papi!
  3. Bellhorn04
    Here's what I say: if a Red Sox fan can HONESTLY say that if the Sox won it in 2020, they would not count it or would devalue it on some sort of scale like you, then sure, the same would apply to the Dodgers. But I'm highly skeptical any Sox fan wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail for that being a totally legit ring.
  4. Bellhorn04
    I'm certainly not arguing the Astros haven't also been successful. But the Dodgers have been roughly just as successful, and they seem well set up to keep it going a while.
  5. Bellhorn04
    Ego is definitely a big factor. Another may be that players have other people telling them to go for the max-their agents, the players' union, family and friends.
  6. Bellhorn04
    And moon, if you're going to play the 'tainted' card, what about 2017?
  7. Bellhorn04
    Not counting 2020 is BS, IMHO. The Dodgers beat the best in the playoffs that year. Everyone knew what the deal was and agreed to it. MLB made the best of it in a pandemic. If anyone thinks it would have been better to cancel the year completely, they're entitled to that opinion, of course. And the Dodgers have been killing it in the regular season - 12 straight years in the playoffs. 4 pennants in the last 8 years. How much success do you want?
  8. Bellhorn04
    I believe Andrew Friedman is on record that when they traded for Betts they fully intended to make a big effort to extend him. If COVID didn't enter the picture maybe they just would have had to pay 10% more or something. There are a lot of possibilities. But it seems clear now the Red Sox had made their best offer at $290 or whatever, and they were out of the Mookie Betts business after that.
  9. Bellhorn04
    Hard to say. It seems odd that Betts's agent would counter $290 mill with $400 mill to begin with. But if he did it may just have been a message that $290 was simply not getting it done and they had to move the line.
  10. Bellhorn04
    Maybe Merloni can ask Scott about that rumored counter.
  11. Bellhorn04
    Based on what Scott is saying, if the Sox had offered something like 11 and 330 mill, I think Mookie is still patrolling RF for us.
  12. Bellhorn04
    I understand the Sox reasoning totally. It's absurd to just keep increasing your offer if Cohen has promised to beat them all by $50 mill. Unless you think it would be fun to make Cohen pay $800 million, I guess... At some point someone has to force the issue like this.
  13. Bellhorn04
    We'll never know about the COVID impact. I tend to think the fact that the Dodgers were a very attractive destination had something to do with it too.
  14. Bellhorn04
    Mookie forgot to get an opt-out!
  15. Bellhorn04
    Right. This is why I'm saying the details all make sense and seem totally credible. As Dan Secatore puts it, Mookie was not adamant about testing free agency, but he was adamant about not giving a discount. He wanted market value.
  16. Bellhorn04
    Another interesting item is about Devers. Many in the org wanted to extend him early but it was nixed because of lux tax concerns at the time. As Scott says, an example of a short term decision having adverse long term effects.
  17. Bellhorn04
    Yeah, Secatore says he figures Scott is piping up now because he knows that.
  18. Bellhorn04
    Also, Scott is not really ripping Henry for anything. He's saying it was an organizational decision that the Red Sox were not in the business of giving out mega-contracts. He's also pushing back against the idea the Sox didn't care that much about competing the last few years.
  19. Bellhorn04
    Agreed. I do note that one of the guys going back and forth with Scott was Lou Merloni, who I believe was the source of the report that the Sox offered $300 million. And he didn't question Scott on any of the facts/comments about the Sox offers. If anyone in the present front office thinks Scott isn't right, I would assume we'll hear something about it.
  20. Bellhorn04
    Supposedly Cohen has said he'll beat any other offer by $50 million. Kind of makes it an exercise in futility if you think it's just top dollar wins. I think that's why they're asking for the meeting. And it sounds like they're ready to walk away and move onto other things.
  21. Bellhorn04
    The money quote: Mookie would have signed with us for maybe even a little less. We didn't get there.
  22. Bellhorn04
    What he's saying all makes perfect sense though, and it doesn't sound like he's trying to sensationalize anything.
  23. Bellhorn04
    SENSATIONAL piece here from Dan Secatore recapping the recent revelations coming from one-time Sox executive Zack Scott. It all sounds credible and logical. This is a must-read. https://www.overthemonster.com/2024/12/5/24314082/red-sox-juan-soto-free-agent-rumors-mookie-betts-dodgers-trade
  24. Bellhorn04
    Per Red Sox Stats: hot off the presses The Red Sox have requested a meeting with Boras and Soto where they will be given price that would get a deal finalized.
  25. Bellhorn04
    Seems like this is just one guy's prediction.
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