Bellhorn04
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You're mostly right. However, you could say Giolito was a reclamation project because he was so horrible for the last 2 months of 2023. It wasn't what you'd call a really committed signing. Plus it had an opt-out after 1 year if Giolito did well. So all in all it's probably fair to lump these signings together as "shopping in the markdown section". -
We're making fun of teams outspending us by $150 million+ (including tax) for exercising fiscal restraint?
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Seems a bit hyperbolic to me. It would have to be a very poor or badly-run team to be set back more than a decade by one bad signing.
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And I still disagree on that, of course. The last two champions relied heavily on free agents (Freeman,Ohtani, Yamamoto, Seager, Semien, Eovaldi). With Fried and Burnes of course you're paying heavily for their track records. Houck and Bello don't really have track records yet.
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And yet they make offers to both of them, which adds to the weirdness...
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If we trade Crawford, from last year we'll have subtracted his 183.2 IP and Pivetta's 145.2 IP and added Crochet's 146.0 and Giolito's NIL. I don't think it's a good idea, because Crawford has value as an innings eater, and by now we should now just how valuable that is. I certainly support the idea of getting a better catcher and reliever...
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It's been a weirdly hodgepodge approach since Bloom was hired, and it seems to be more of the same this offseason. Crochet is the one encouraging move. But they haven't touched the bullpen or the bad defense. Something just isn't right behind those doors.
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I think both points can be true. Being a nice guy won't save you if you suck. But with Chapman you're undeniably bringing in extra baggage. My gut feeling is that it's not going to be a signing we look back on fondly.
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They can be extra harsh with some.
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The bullpen as it stands looks worse than last year, am I right? There will be different bodies, and some hopes for improvement, but basically they've done jacksquat about it so far. I also think Chapman was a pretty poor signing. He's got 2 strikes against him in the image department, one off the field and one on it (multiple big playoff homers given up). He walks a lot of guys and is often an adventure. If he struggles the fans will be harsh.
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No, basically I'm just venting. The Red Sox keep proving that if you have a quarter in one hand and interest in the other, it's worth a gumball...
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But that's just our old friend the "i" word.
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The more I think about what they've accomplished with the pitching so far, the more I don't like it. Hopeful about the Crochet trade, but the rest of it looks like just more negligence and more playing on the margins. Giolito's 38.5 million is the biggest contract handed to a starting pitcher since Eovaldi's extension in December, 2018. That's incredible. As for Burnes and the offer we reportedly "prepared" for him, Jeff Passan doesn't even list the Red Sox among the candidates to sign him. We're still not serious players.
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Problem is there's not much reason to have confidence this is part of an integrated plan that makes sense rather than just more throwing stuff at the wall. My suspicion is that the relatively tight budget makes Brez feel like he has to do "creative" stuff like this rather than the obvious move of signing a good starter who's ready to go.
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Good point, Nick, why not invest this kind of money in the bullpen instead? Our bullpen was a big weakness last year and at this point it looks no better, and probably worse, with Jansen and Martin out, Chapman and Wilson in. Still smells a lot like dysfunction at the top.
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This part kind of says it all. This is a similar move to the signing of Liam Hendricks last offseason, as it features a rehabbing pitcher eyeing a midseason return, although Hendricks suffered several setbacks and ultimately was unable to make his Red Sox debut before the end of the year. The "whoopsy-daisy" factor is way too common in these deals, but the Red Sox never seem to lose their appetite for them...
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It does seem a tad ironic that they're so into these pitcher reclamation projects, but gave up on the 2024 NL Cy Young winner.
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I'd say he wants multi-rings, like every other crazed fan.
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Nice, you just summed up Cohen perfectly in 7 words! He does have some baseball smarts too, as evidenced by getting a good CBO in Stearns.
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There continues to be a vast difference in payroll between the two teams, with the Yanks currently sitting at about $284 mill for tax purposes and the Sox at $176 mill.
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How do we know every signing and offer doesn't go through votes or whatever now? We really have no clue how they're running things. When it comes to that stuff they keep secrets better than the Mafia.
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The guys at Over the Monster, who I think do some great work, have indicated that they think Breslow has been delivering subtle little messages that he'd like to be doing things differently (being more aggressive) but his control over what's going on is very limited.
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IMHO this is symptomatic of the Sox: a) being a component of Fenway Sports Group, answerable to many powerful shareholders, and b) having too many voices involved in operations. It's clear that something just isn't right, that there's confusion and dysfunction about which way to go. And the Interest Kings thing is becoming embarrassing. It's something the Sox are becoming notorious for. Why would they want that? It makes no sense.
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That's certainly how he sees it. Hasn't been the same since. But it was peanuts compared to the $475 million Cohen expended on 2023.
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No, I really don't see things in such simplistic terms. But yeah, I think it does ultimately matter that Cohen is not only worth 3-4 times as much as JH, but he has no one to answer to the way JH does. It's why Cohen can withstand a $475 million fiasco like 2023 and just smile and keep on trucking.
