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  1. Nothing gets the blood going like Sam Kennedy telling us what they're actively exploring...
  2. Exactly. Yamamoto's deal was HIGHLY speculative. And of course not only did he get 325 million, the Dodgers had to pay a 51 million posting fee. Total cost = 376 million for a pitcher with ZERO MLB INNINGS. But oh yeah, that's totally rational stuff compared to our suggested deals for Crochet. 😁
  3. OK, well the first point is kind of a rabbit's hole. But what makes the bidding war for Yamamoto different from any other free agency? The bidding war for Soto looked much the same. And if Crochet pitches up to expectations the next 2 years and the Sox fail to extend him, there'll be a bidding war for him too. Crochet has a potential payday of maybe $250 million. You might be able to get him to forego the opportunity for that kind of payday by offering him your $80-90 million now, and you might not. Look at all the offers Betts turned down-3 as we now know. It takes guts to turn down a guaranteed $200 million (cue the Mama jokes). But some of these guys have done it.
  4. In view of Wander Franco, maybe we should be using verbiage other than "locked up"...
  5. Here's the story on the Scherzer extension offer from the Tigers, which got kind of ugly PR-wise. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/04/flashback-the-spring-2014-contract-spat-between-max-scherzer-the-tigers.html#:~:text=“Max Scherzer made a substantial,offer was rejected by Detroit. What I didn't know was that Scherzer took out an insurance policy on himself that would have paid him $40 million if he got injured in 2014. Now that's how you hedge betting on yourself! The premiums must have been hefty.
  6. I think a deal with St. Louis will happen.
  7. They can put in some bells and whistles too. A lower salary but with incentive money per appearance would guard some against injury.
  8. Carl Crawford, Hanley Ramirez and Pablo Sandoval didn't get hurt, they just turned to suck. That happens to position players too.
  9. We've seen what's happened with Trout. His career has been totally derailed.
  10. I think it's absolutely relevant. Scherzer turned down 144 million because he thought he could get more than that when he hit free agency. If he thought he'd get less than that he wouldn't have turned it down. The player is deciding between the extension offer and the projected free agent payday and weighing the risk factor into the equation. That projected payday is a fundamental component of the equation.
  11. True but the risk of a catastrophic injury is always there, for any player. Your payday could be gone in a nanosecond.
  12. I can't see anything. It's all a mystery.
  13. Scherzer is a good example of the 'bet on yourself' mentality. That was Dave D. he turned down. The Tigers were reportedly very surprised and pissed he turned it down. I think it was 6/144 IIRC. And Juan Soto of course famously turned down 440 million. That worked out OK for him too! We shouldn't underestimate the cojones some of these guys have.
  14. Sox Prospects said: Ceiling of a number two starter or high-end number three.
  15. It's not easy to predict which of those two will happen. He might also be decent but short of expectations. Or pitch great but get hurt toward the end of the year. There are a plethora of scenarios.
  16. Crochet is a very interesting case for sure. The old schoolers (and notin seems to be an old schooler money-wise) think it's nuts to give Crochet a $150 million+ deal without seeing more of him. If the Sox do the wait and see thing, there's no predicting how it will turn out. If Crochet has a huge season his price goes way up and if he has a bad season it could go way down. Crochet could just say screw it, play out the two years with no extension - bet on himself. The wait and see thing opens the risk of a stud starter walking away from us after 2 years. And he'll only be 27 when he does. Possibly lined up for a $300 million payday.
  17. You're talking about early extensions. There are also the "one year away" extensions that can be very large dollars such as the one we didn't give to Betts. And of course Crochet's would be a "two years away" extension.
  18. Can honestly say this is one I didn't see coming.
  19. That does seem like a good deal and a plausible one for both teams. I'd do it too.
  20. This offseason seems to be turning out a lot like last offseason. Flurries of excitement alternating with weeks of crickets.
  21. Nobody was crying for Pivetta's return, but by the same token I don't think anyone would have complained if he stayed. Most would likely prefer him to Crawford. Pivetta just went and got expensive on us.
  22. Yeah, like I say, it appears the Sox weren't really that far short. But short they were.
  23. Scott said the final offer was "almost $100 million more" than the $200 million offer. That leaves no possibility of being $300 million. It does leave $299.99 million if we really want to get silly...
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