Bellhorn04
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The Sox are performing the double functions of Interest Kings and Bargain Hunters. -
Stock seems like a guy who will have a career in baseball or media after he stops playing - which will be pretty soon.
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Which is just one step down from Canadian money. 🙃
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Oh yeah, Vlad to Sox ain't happening in the real world.
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Unload Casas and Yoshida. 2026 1B Devers. 2026 DH Vlad. It'll be another Ortiz/Manny thing.
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My proposal was 4 additional years, so 6 total 2025-2030, with an opt out after 2029.
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Pretty sure it's just the MFYs. He really seems to hate them. Which endears him to me, needless to say.
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Maybe my $170 million is too high. But if Crochet takes less than $150 I'll be surprised.
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To me it's all just jibber jabber to pass the time, Red. As long as nobody gets pissed off it's all good.
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Eerily reminiscent of Montgomery last year.
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Of course what he did in Japan was hugely important. That's not what's being argued. But Japan is not MLB. You may have heard of this other fellow named Yoshida...
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Well, I think this misses the point. The point is that there's a potentially huge payday for Crochet, and that's part of what determines the offer. And my proposal was pretty close to yours, so we shouldn't really even be arguing LOL
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Still disagree. Comps don't have to line up perfectly to be useful. This house is identical to that house except for location or damage etc., that house sold for X, so this house should be worth (plug in discount or premium factor) - this is how market values are often estimated. I think you have to use the info you have. Yamamoto signed only a year ago so it certainly qualifies as recent data.
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Love to have him, but probably not at his price tag. He'll probably be a Met next year.
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We heard it over and over again - the reason Yamamoto was so special and would get paid so much was his age. Crochet would be a couple years older than Moto, but still much younger than the typical free agent.
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That's why I'm saying it's a rabbit hole. There's no way to do a comparison that everyone would agree on.
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One thing that the Yamamoto reminded us of is that projected paydays can be off by plenty. Yamamoto was 'only' predicted to get about $225 million. The actual number was $100 million higher and could have exceeded that if Cohen was allowed to up his offer.
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Yeah, I think you know what we're getting at. MLB innings should OBVIOUSLY count for more than innings in Japan. As I said at the start, this is a rabbit hole. But claiming Crochet is vastly less proven than Yamamoto is kind of silly IMHO.
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The White Sox clearly had him on a pre-set innings limit, and for good reason given his history. It's not like it was a radical position to take IMHO. In 2012 Strasburg was allowed to pitch up to X number of innings (160 it looks like) and then shut down completely for the season. That was a bit controversial too IIRC.
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Red Sox Preparing Offer To Free Agent Corbin Burnes
Bellhorn04 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I must say this was one of the more amusing headlines of the offseason. The "preparing" part especially. -
For those keeping track, Gio's 38.5 million is still the standard bearer for the Sox biggest guarantee to a free agent starting pitcher since the year 1 (or 0 if you want to rabbit hole it) AD (After Dombrowski). It has survived several more months!
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Unfortunately the pitching physically hurt scenario got all muddled up with the pitching emotionally hurt scenario!
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And that created some controversy. But if you step back and take an objective look at it, I think Crochet was absolutely right to be looking out for himself there. After all, who else would?
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I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but I'm sure I read that Crochet said he was okay with extension negotiations extending into the regular season.
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I could be wrong but you seem to be arguing that potential free agent paydays have ZERO correlation to the amounts of extension offers.
