26 to 6

when did I?

thats my point...second place is good enough, you guys make it out that since we're in 2nd place we absolutely suck

na trust me, the players would go on strike if he was allowed in the PA again, he did horrible things for the MLBPA and MLB...but that doesnt mean he cant play again (Kevin Millar, Matt Herges, etc..) ...im curious of the conversation that would insue between the two...if there is a conversation at all, i think that Raffy will skip the verbal part and just beat the s*** out of him. I hope your not serious with this Canseco thing, the first time he was here he barely played and the Yanks admitted it was a bad move, now you think they should get him again?...It would be a lot worse for him considering what has happened with all the Canseco Contreversy..and plus, hed get suspended, hes still juicin'

agreed

please no one ever mention the thought of Sidney Ponson in pinstripes EVER AGAIN

im almost to the point of agreeing with you

yes, he did say that Clemens was one of th only players never to cheat on his wife (go roger). Yes, i would like to see her in and out of pinstripes. Anna Benson, wife of Mets pitcher Kris Benson made that statement, but later said that she was just making a statement, that she wouldnt go that far. Canseco (who if he was ever allowed to come back wou not be in the Players Association) would DEFINATELY get beaned all the time...which yes, i guess, would mean that we would have more guys on base (i think that he would get hit evein if the bases were loaded lol haha). And no, i dont want to picture him facing the O's and Palmeiro, because after he gets hit, he has to go to first base...which is where Raffy will be waiting ...that wouldnt be very pretty lol

I think had he stayed in the Yankees system he could have developed quietly like Posada did, but in theDodgers system I dont think he will turn out to be much. Eventually he will be their regular catcher, but i see him as one of those guys who ends up bouncing around from team to team throughout his big league career (which i dont expect to be that long). But definately, had we kept him he would have become something, hes one of those guys that was enamored with the fact that they were Yankees and had the opprotunity to be in the Bronx playing for the big club, thats what motivated and drove him, the pride he had for the Yankees. But hey, i could be wrong, hopegully he becomes a great catcher..but i highly doubt it now. As for a lefty, i think that if we get all of our starters back (Pavano, Wright, Wang, Brown, etc..) and healthy, that Leiter might be thrown out into the pen (you gotta think that Pavano and Wang wont go out there, Chacon will probably be forced out ther), though I think that Brown should be the one in the pen an Leiter the one in the rotation. Right now we got Moose Randy Small Leiter Chacon *Pavano *Wright *Wang *Brown *Nomo *Mendoza Rodriguez Groom Graman Proctor Sturtze Gordon Mo There are 6 pitchers there with asterisks next to their name, which mean that they are injured (or in Nomo's case "sharpening up") and expected to come back sometime this year (Wang will most likely be back, will start throwing Monday). That means 6 spots need to be emptied for them to make room on the 25 man roster, though if you assume Wang and Mendoza wont be back until September, they can just be added when the rosters expand to 40. I think the Yanks will do the same with Wright, he will be capable to come back prior to September but it would make more sense to leave him onthe DL until September 1st so that he could be activated when the rosters expand as well. So lets subtract those 3, which leaves 3 roster spots that need to be vacated for Pavano, Brown, and Nomo. Groom i think will be DFA, and Proctor and Graman have options, so they can be sent down without risking them to waivers, which take care of the 3 spots. Now I believe that since the Yanks now have a free spot on the 40 man roster (they traded Sierra and Ramirez, both of whom were on the 40 man roster, for Chacon, which leaves one spot on the 40 man roster) they should promote Mendoza then classify him as being on the 60 Man DL, which would make him eligible for the postseason if the Yanks choose to use him under the circumstances that he has a stellar September. (to be eligible for the postseason roster, you need to be on the 25 man roster on August 31st, or on either the 15 day DL or the 60 day DL on August 31st, which would make all 6 pitchers with asterisks eligible for the postseason...In Mendoza's case, he would have to go through the process of having his Minor League contract purchased by the Yankees, which would add him to the 40 man roster, [which we should do now that we have a free spot] and then put him on the 60 day DL, which would take him off the 40 man roster, but still be listed as a Major Leager, then we could use his 40 man roster spot for Nomo. Cashman needs to do this process ASAP for it to have an effect). So now that ive probably confused everyone, let me summarize by saying that if we need a lefty in the pen it will likely be Leiter, as RJ, Moose, Pavano, Brown and either Nomo or Small will fill the starting rotation (Leiter could be in the rotation and have Nomo and Small in the pen, but that would leave us with NO lefties out there, as Graman would be optioned down and Groom would be DFA). But to shake thing up even worse, Dennys Reyes (who was released by the Padres monday, and is a lefty) was, last I heard, deciding between the Yankees, Astros, and a third team (possibly the Cardinals I believe) to sign with. He would just add to the surplux of pitching we already have, and I cant even begin to take the time out and try to analyze what moves would be made to accomodate him as well as the pitchers with the asterisks I listed above. Now let me remind you that it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that Joe Torre would carry mnore than 12 pitchers on the 25 man roster at any given time between now and August 31st. (I say no more than 12 because if he had 13 he would not have many position players eligible for the postseason, as the 13th pitcher would be taking a position players spot). So basically what im saying is that unless we start trading off these injured guys, or some guys in the pen, we cant afford to go otu and make any improvements to the rotation or bullpen, due to the fact that we are overstocked in the pitching department. So since we cant make additions (unless it is ruled that either Brown, Pavano, Wright, or Wang is out for the entire year), we will have to make it work with the pitchers under contract right now. Which may be tough. Now realize that I am not Brian Cashman so therefore he may still make an addition to the pitching staff, and figure out what to do from there (it would be VERY tough), but it is unlikely and would be a difficult task. OK guys, i realize that i just wrote a novel, and that probably none of you read it all in its full, but if you want your Yankees pitching questions answered, then read everything i just wrote.

i think if Canseco came anywhere near the South Bronx, he'd get shot just for starting all that s*** about Roger...and if he didnt get shot, hed be on the DL in about a day, his first AB hed get plunked in the head, the players association would offer rewards to those who injured Canseco hah As for Jennie.....i LOVE Jennie, she could be our ace as well as an "insperational leader" of sorts in the clubhouse Too bad hrr dirtbag husband is in the DBacks system, otherwise i would reccomend it to Cashman and Stick hahaha

um...hes pitched in the past 9 years..just hasnt started in 9 years, he was with the Marlins last year

i must say that i am nothing short of thrilled at what he had to give up. Sierra was projected to be a decent middle relieevr, and Ramon Ramirez has been in our system forever, but doesnt project to be anything spectacular.

Id still prefer Melky Cabrera over Kevin Thompson Thank God the Royals said no...the last person i want is Jose Lima.

ok lets talk about this year...which is only alf way through. Yes, its been very disappointing, but do you fail to realize how close we are. And it seems that because we are in second place, we suck according to you guys...was finishing in second place a disappointment for you guys last year, did you suck last year?

yea, but im not talking about who can i plug in there to get results from for just today, im talking about the fututre as well, just because roberts is having this great season doesnt mean that he will have similar seasons consistantly throughout his career, but Soriano is already proven, so right this second my vote goes to him

and what, Red Sox fans arent? ...You guys act like you're angels or something, can never do anything wrong. If i started a thread saying that the Red Sox suck you guys would be ALL OVER ME..but because a Sox fan did it about the Yankees everything all good.

i still need to see more from Roberts....one season doesnt do much for me...if he can produce a similar year next season then hes got my vote

why would you mention the choke...its in the past...according to all of you Sox fans, the past doesnt count.

well who would you reccomend we throw out there??

Browns a Free Agent, Wright is under contract, but i wouldnt be surprised if h was traded or used as a power arm in the pen..as thats what Cashman and Torre's goal is for him this year when he comes back in August (die to the surplux of starting pitching..bad as it may be)

Steinbrenner isnt signing them ...how come people always assume that when the Yankees make a move its always Steinbrenner behind it...this isnt 1985, we do have a pretty good GM and Front Office..George does very little in terms of transactions ...not that my statement was of any importance, just something i was thinking about _____________________________________________ i dont mind Nomo, i dont see any harm in giving him a shot.

DBacks designated Jose Cruz Jr. for assignment. Maybe if no deal is made, he could be added to play CF. I remember when he was with Toronto how coveted he was by so many teams and all the projections made about him. I still think he could be a productive bat and play pretty good defense, and obviously provde a better arm than Bernie. Also he wouldnt block Melky in the years to come as Griffey MIGHT, and Damon would (if we got him in the offseason). Just something to think about, i personally dont want him, but wouldnt mind if we got him....im still in favor of Griffey

Alex was very good vs the Twins in the ALDS last year and not too bad in the ALCS, i think with more opprotunities he could be pretty good in big games, and as for the comparrisons to the all time leaders, i think it speaks or itself, i wouldnt be surprised if he went on to surpass all of those leaders (maybe except Rose, he might not play long enough). I still believe A-Rod is the best player in the game, and its ridiculous that very few view him that way as opposed to his last 2 years in Texas when it was always a comparrison between Alex and Bonds.

i wouldnt say sori is a contract with no production, name me a more productive, AVAILABLE second basemen, or eben just a more productive 2B (and please dont say Bret Boone, thats ridiculous, and dont say Cano either, hes still a rookie and i dont think i can throw him in there with Sori quite yet, but no doubt ill be able to sooner than later).

well i heard today that yesterday the Yankees made a very respectable offer for Griffey, but the Reds said "hes not available"...which is very shocking, hopefully theyre just saying this to prolong things until the deadline to get more bidders in the Griffey Sweepstakes, but if they truly dont intend to trade him, Dan Obrien needs to be fired. (I dont know what the offer the Yanks made was)

yea but hes from NY, i think he would be fine with the Mets...especially since they are so lationo-oriented, seems like Omar is trying to build a Latin American All Star Team for the future (with the exception of Wright, who will obviously be here forever).