Red Sox Pre-Offseason Mega Thread

[JoeBrady]

On 10/29/2026 at 2:43 PM, mvp 78 said:

I think Jarren just believes there's a path to more $$$ in trying to hit 30 dingers. 

I don't think Duran thinks at all.  His LA went from 12.0 to 12.5.  His EV went from 91.8 down to 89.6.  I see no evidence that either he or the team tried to change anything.  I think he just ha a bad year.  No more psychoanalyzing the team, unless everyone passed Psyche101.

[JoeBrady]

On 10/29/2026 at 2:52 PM, moonslav59 said:

We should project to be better on offense before any moves, but I am firmly in the camp of adding a major bat (or two really good ones.)

I don't mind adding, but we will be a good offensive team next year.

[JoeBrady]

On 10/29/2026 at 3:00 PM, moonslav59 said:

Minor league hype is often designed to build interest and expectations in order to fill the seats.

One more urban myth.  There are major companies that earn good coin assessing and ranking minor league players and farms.  Fans want their farms to be good.  But the rankings are the numbers.  If a farm is ranked #30, the team is not going to come out and say 'we have a great farm'.  If anyone disagrees, feel free to write to BA, BP, FG, etc., and offer your professional opinion.  I'm sure it will get the consideration it deserves.

[jdc69]

7 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I don't think that's a real thing.  I doubt any team goes up to a prospect and asks them to replace a veteran's production.  I think it's more likely to be 'don't try to do too much too soon'.

They dont have to ask him. The action itself does the talking. He's their hyped future, they want to win, they get rid of established stars, they put him high up in the batting order... Just putting him high in the batting order says he's supposed to a big reason for their future success. Add to that the grumpy, viscious sports climate in New England, and you have the makings of super high pressure for a guy coming straight from the minors.

[JoeBrady]

23 hours ago, notin said:

If they had opted for the polar bear, the Red Sox would be the only team whose AAA mascot would eat their AA mascot…

If JH wasn't so cheap, you could've signed up a real polar bear.  Then have a contest.  The polar bear starts on 1st, and a (Yankee) fan starts on 2nd.  If he (Yankee) fan reaches the BP 1st, he gets $1M.  If he doesn't, then well, he doesn't.

And this conversation about sellout ends forever.

[JoeBrady]

5 hours ago, drewski6 said:

So if we have unrealistic optimism regarding injury luck, and we assume no dro offs, we may be better than 25th best offense.

This is just the same recipe as last offseason, and you may get that great luck, but most likely we will have 1-2 injuries and/or drop-offs, and we'll be here again next year after a similar season to the one we just had.

Except that:

• RA (.803) replaces Duran (.627)
• AR (.753) replaces Narvaez (.535)
• Mead (.709) replaces Mayer (.594)

Obviously we are much, much improved from the team that started 2026.

[Old Red]

19 minutes ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

What were his numbers if you take away the end of 2025?  I know he was hurt and had to do effectively 2 spring trainings but he was not good this season, at the plate or in the outfield.  Not calling him a bust but surely disappointed, especially after the World Baseball Classic.  

13-47-.271 is just not the face of the franchise numbers not to mention a MVP type candidate numbers.

[JoeBrady]

4 hours ago, drewski6 said:

got the fanbase to be so complacent.

This is not really a real thing either.  Just because one fan would prefer to upgrade DH instead of SS, and another fan wants to add offense, but not at the expense of defense, and a 4th fan definitely wants to improve the offense, but believes we need an OBP-machine leading off, doesn't make them complacent.

You and Red seem to be stuck on the idea that only HR hitters count.  Just imho, that's not what baseball statistics say.

[JoeBrady]

18 minutes ago, jdc69 said:

they put him high up in the batting order...

Mayer batting order by PAs, was #7, #8, and #6.  Not high at all.

Campbell's order was #6, #7, and #4.  Higher, but both guys were basically #6/7 hitters.  Anthony certainly batted higher, but his hitting doesn't seem affected by where they hit him.  His issue, so far, are injuries.

[Old Red]

9 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

This is not really a real thing either.  Just because one fan would prefer to upgrade DH instead of SS, and another fan wants to add offense, but not at the expense of defense, and a 4th fan definitely wants to improve the offense, but believes we need an OBP-machine leading off, doesn't make them complacent.

You and Red seem to be stuck on the idea that only HR hitters count.  Just imho, that's not what baseball statistics say.

False narrative on me. I have NEVER said that ONLY HR hitters count, and nor do i think that. They are nice to have though. I think there is a correlation of hitting 23 less homers this year, and scoring 97 less runs. 23 homers during the 15 game winning streak played a big part too.

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

What were his numbers if you take away the end of 2025?  I know he was hurt and had to do effectively 2 spring trainings but he was not good this season, at the plate or in the outfield.  Not calling him a bust but surely disappointed, especially after the World Baseball Classic.  

It's only really disappointing if you expected a rookie to hit way better than .803 in his first 545+ PAs.

The bummer was missed time on the IL.

I'm hopeful he can improve on .803 and power, but I'll take .803 while going 150+ games year as being good enough for his contract.

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

One more urban myth.  There are major companies that earn good coin assessing and ranking minor league players and farms.  Fans want their farms to be good.  But the rankings are the numbers.  If a farm is ranked #30, the team is not going to come out and say 'we have a great farm'.  If anyone disagrees, feel free to write to BA, BP, FG, etc., and offer your professional opinion.  I'm sure it will get the consideration it deserves.

No, they don't brag about their team or their bad ranking, but they certainly choose a few of their best players and promote (hype) them to their fans.

If they don't, they need a new PR department head.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, Old Red said:

13-47-.271 is just not the face of the franchise numbers not to mention a MVP type candidate numbers.

.271 is the number on the back of the card. Stop changing numbers.

[Old Red]

15 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

It's only really disappointing if you expected a rookie to hit way better than .803 in his first 545+ PAs.

The bummer was missed time on the IL.

I'm hopeful he can improve on .803 and power, but I'll take .803 while going 150+ games year as being good enough for his contract.

.803 may sound better, but 13-47-.271 does not along with 150 K’s. Lowering his standards just calling him a Rookie. He was supposed to be the ROMan Empire. MVP candidate. He was never going to be just a rookie. Unless he hasn’t lived up to his hype, and expectations, and then you make excuses for him. By GOLLY I think you’ve come up with another nickname for little A. JAR. Just a Rookie. Well done.👏

[notin]

23 hours ago, jdc69 said:

They dont have to ask him. The action itself does the talking. He's their hyped future, they want to win, they get rid of established stars, they put him high up in the batting order... Just putting him high in the batting order says he's supposed to a big reason for their future success. Add to that the grumpy, viscious sports climate in New England, and you have the makings of super high pressure for a guy coming straight from the minors.

Do you really think batting 6th or 7th doesn’t create this same pressure?  If the player’s feelings are “I have to produce or I get demoted”, why does batting order position matter, especially in today’s age of analytics and advanced stats?  You might be counting his RBIs; do you honestly think the Red Sox were? Or were they instead watching his launch angle and escape velocity?

Youre trying to create the viewpoint of a player from the viewpoint of a fan.  It doesn’t work that way.  Teams don’t analyze players using the same criteria we do.

If I were to ask you what has more pressure - playing in the majors vs playing in the minors, you probably say “majors”, and I get why.  Higher profile. Got to produce or get demoted.  And who cares about the minors? Is there really even any pressure in the minors?
 

But in the minors, if you don’t produce in some way, you stay there.  That in itself creates pressure players have to deal with.  In the minors, being a highly ranked prospect creates pressure, as does being a first round draft pick, right?  Just ask Trey Ball and Garin Cecchini and Michael Bowden.

But since fans don’t care about these non-major league pressure, they clearly don’t exist.

I have no idea how much these or any pressures affect any player.  But if the argument is going to be “this pressure exists,” let’s not pick and choose the ones that support our case.  They’re universal, and not every player is susceptible…

[notin]

22 hours ago, Old Red said:

.803 may sound better, but 13-47-.271 does not along with 150 K’s. Lowering his standards just calling him a Rookie. He was supposed to be the ROMan Empire. MVP candidate. He was never going to be just a rookie. Unless he hasn’t lived up to his hype, and expectations, and then you make excuses for him. By GOLLY I think you’ve come up with another nickname for little A. JAR. Just a Rookie. Well done.👏

Who said that?  
 

I know some betting sites had him as a dark horse candidate, but betting sites are not projections; they’re heavily influenced by betting action.  Not remotely the same.  

So is this a case of “Old Red makes up hype and blames everyone else for it”?

[jdc69]

36 minutes ago, notin said:

Do you really think batting 6th or 7th doesn’t create this same pressure?  If the player’s feelings are “I have to produce or I get demoted”, why does batting order position matter, especially in today’s age of analytics and advanced stats?  You might be counting his RBIs; do you honestly think the Red Sox were? Or were they instead watching his launch angle and escape velocity?

Youre trying to create the viewpoint of a player from the viewpoint of a fan.  It doesn’t work that way.  Teams don’t analyze players using the same criteria we do.

If I were to ask you what has more pressure - playing in the majors vs playing in the loonies, you probably say “majors”, and I get why.  Higher profile. Got to produce or get demoted.  And who cares about the minors? Is there any pressure in the minors?
 

But in the minors, if you don’t produce in some way, you stay there.  That in itself creates pressure players have to deal with.  In the minors, being a highly ranked prospect creates pressure, as does being a first round draft pick, right?  Just ask Trey Ball and Garin Cecchini and Michael Bowden.

But since fans don’t care about these non-major league pressure, they clearly don’t exist.

I have no idea how much these or any pressures affect any player.  But if the argument is going to be “this pressure exists,” let’s not pick and choose the ones that support our case.  They’re universal, and not every player is susceptible…

Yeah, that's why I have trouble with analytics, because it doesnt seem to take in the human factor. To them theres no difference between batting in June on a team projected to come in last place, or the World Series. Thats like saying theres no difference between walking on a 2x4 that's flat on the ground or 20 stories high. 

Obviously Anthony is going to feel pressure no matter what, but there's a difference between normal pressure and extra pressure coming from asking a minor leaguer to put a franchise on his back.

 

[notin]

1 hour ago, jdc69 said:

Yeah, that's why I have trouble with analytics, because it doesnt seem to take in the human factor. To them theres no difference between batting in June on a team projected to come in last place, or the World Series. Thats like saying theres no difference between walking on a 2x4 that's flat on the ground or 20 stories high. 

Obviously Anthony is going to feel pressure no matter what, but there's a difference between normal pressure and extra pressure coming from asking a minor leaguer to put a franchise on his back.

 

Whether or not analytics accounts for the human factor is immaterial when the alternative is a “one size fits all” coddling approach that may or may not address anything.

The advantage to the analytical approach is it doesn’t try to address pressure, etc.  it just records data and draws conclusions as best as it can 

[jdc69]

10 minutes ago, notin said:

Whether or not analytics accounts for the human factor is immaterial when the alternative is a “one size fits all” coddling approach that may or may not address anything.

The advantage to the analytical approach is it doesn’t try to address pressure, etc.  it just records data and draws conclusions as best as it can 

It also becomes a part of the money making operation that takes power away from the players and managers and gives it, some to the geeks, but mostly, to the owner. The players now become merely the arms and legs of the operation, and the owner and geeks, the brain...if the players want to play and earn the minimal salary that is better than digging ditches that is. This could account for getting rid of veteran players more than just not wanting to spend money. 

[moonslav59]

19 hours ago, Old Red said:

.803 may sound better, but 13-47-.271 does not along with 150 K’s. Lowering his standards just calling him a Rookie. He was supposed to be the ROMan Empire. MVP candidate. He was never going to be just a rookie. Unless he hasn’t lived up to his hype, and expectations, and then you make excuses for him. By GOLLY I think you’ve come up with another nickname for little A. JAR. Just a Rookie. Well done.👏

Meeting expectations has two major aspects to it:

1. What are the expectations for a player's first 545 PAs? (I think there was a wide range on this site, but I don't recall anyone saying he'd be an MVP candidate out of the gate.)

2. What was the production? (We know this site has a wide range of criteria used to judge production, plus those like you with sliding scales depending on your bias.)

To those who thought he'd be near an MVP candidate in his first 545, they'd say he failed to meet expectations, but the baffling thing to me is you were clearly not in this group. Yet, here you are saying he came up way short. (See sliding scale point.)

To me, the big letdown was the missed time- both in 2025 and 2026. His production when he played was fine in 2025, but fell short in 2026. He may have been playing hurt for a chunk of 2026, and yes, that is an actual excuse, and no it was not his pinky finger.

He did not meet my expectations in 2026, but I will add that had he produced his .339 OBP over 600 PAs, the team would have been way better than it was. The near .305 OBP by our 1-2 batters hurt our offense more than not having Alonso vs Willson. His lack of power and high K rate did outweigh a half-way decent .339 OBP. Nobody is saying Roman met 2026 expectations,  but you will continue to pretend there is this great number of posters disagreeing with you.

His career numbers after 545 PAs is pretty good, to me. I'd have expected more homers, but 46 XBHs is not all that low. IMO, his .371 OBP far outweighs 150 Ks and 13 HR total. When you project out to 650, his first 650 would come to: .271  with 15 HRs and 55 XBHs. 

That may not be enough to meet some posters expectations, but if they think he fell short enough to raise a stink about it, I'd argue their expectations were set to high for 21-22 year player just starting his MLB career.

My guess is .272 15 and 55 compare pretty well with many great players in MLB. I'm not worried about his production projections- I'm worried about his injuries and why his last seemingly minor injury took so long to heal and may still not be healed, today. That's my major concern with Roman.

You rant about the "Roman Empire" hype, but you are no different but from the bottom of the barrell level you gravitate towards. You think your cute nicknames makes you look whitty, but it's actually quite petty and tiresome. Almost all of them have negative connotations, even for good players, but the part that exposes you is how much disdain you have towards those who assign positive or optimistic labels or nicknames on players, but you give yourself a pass for doing the exact same from the garbage end of the spectrum.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, notin said:

Do you really think batting 6th or 7th doesn’t create this same pressure?  If the player’s feelings are “I have to produce or I get demoted”, why does batting order position matter, especially in today’s age of analytics and advanced stats?  You might be counting his RBIs; do you honestly think the Red Sox were? Or were they instead watching his launch angle and escape velocity?

Youre trying to create the viewpoint of a player from the viewpoint of a fan.  It doesn’t work that way.  Teams don’t analyze players using the same criteria we do.

If I were to ask you what has more pressure - playing in the majors vs playing in the loonies, you probably say “majors”, and I get why.  Higher profile. Got to produce or get demoted.  And who cares about the minors? Is there any pressure in the minors?
 

But in the minors, if you don’t produce in some way, you stay there.  That in itself creates pressure players have to deal with.  In the minors, being a highly ranked prospect creates pressure, as does being a first round draft pick, right?  Just ask Trey Ball and Garin Cecchini and Michael Bowden.

But since fans don’t care about these non-major league pressure, they clearly don’t exist.

I have no idea how much these or any pressures affect any player.  But if the argument is going to be “this pressure exists,” let’s not pick and choose the ones that support our case.  They’re universal, and not every player is susceptible…

Great post, notin. One of your best ever.

[notin]

39 minutes ago, jdc69 said:

It also becomes a part of the money making operation that takes power away from the players and managers and gives it, some to the geeks, but mostly, to the owner. The players now become merely the arms and legs of the operation, and the owner and geeks, the brain...if the players want to play and earn the minimal salary that is better than digging ditches that is. This could account for getting rid of veteran players more than just not wanting to spend money. 

Actually analytics have probably helped more players than they’ve hurt financially.   I don’t think there was ever a time when the players were the “brains” of a team, save maybe the early 1900’s when player-managers and player-coaches were all the rage.

Even nowadays when teams take analytical approach to game strategies, like Boston in the postseason, do people think the manager isn’t involved?  Former Sox manager and shortstop Alex Cora was probably the biggest analytics nerd in league history, which was a major factor in Boston hiring him…

[notin]

2 hours ago, jdc69 said:

Yeah, that's why I have trouble with analytics, because it doesnt seem to take in the human factor. To them theres no difference between batting in June on a team projected to come in last place, or the World Series. Thats like saying theres no difference between walking on a 2x4 that's flat on the ground or 20 stories high. 

Obviously Anthony is going to feel pressure no matter what, but there's a difference between normal pressure and extra pressure coming from asking a minor leaguer to put a franchise on his back.

 

Are you talking about analytics or baseball card stats?

Analytics itself is a vague term, but it doesn’t try to seem like MLB has data for every situation - day games, week day games, late start Wednesday double headers, vs LHP that throw hard, vs RHP that rely on breaking pitches, vs the hitter’s brother-in-law after both forgetting and remembering anniversaries.

The biggest myth that needs to be debunked around these analytics departments is they’re just math nerds who have never played sports and just draw hard data conclusions they force managers to comply with.  Many of these analysts have both math and baseball backgrounds. And many managers are very data-savvy.  Heck I’ve seen ads for these jobs (Fangraphs actually runs them on occasion), and in most of them, baseball experience is a prerequisite.

Just because Goose Gossage doesn’t like them doesn’t mean he speaks for everyone…

[moonslav59]

23 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Except that:

• RA (.803) replaces Duran (.627)
• AR (.753) replaces Narvaez (.535)
• Mead (.709) replaces Mayer (.594)

Obviously we are much, much improved from the team that started 2026.

I don't disagree, but we seem to do this exercise every year and it never works out this way.

Granted, this specific 3 player swap out looks better on paper than others in recent years, as they sometimes had less than 3 swaps and or worse differentials.

The hard part to project is injuries, but what seemed to kill our offense in 2026 was we saw too many players fall short of their expectations, trends and 2025 totals.

Duran was the major bummer: .774 (696 PAs) to .627 in way too many PAs at 608.

Story's decline should have been expected- maybe not to that extreme, but still. He was post prime, too. .741 in 654 PAs (the PAs more shocking than the .second half boom) to 

.726 Narvaez (446) to .535 (197) was horrific!

Romy (.826 in 341 PAs -6th on the team in PAs to .572 in 73) This one is not mentioned much

Anthony (.859 in 303 to .735 in even lass PAs at 242)

Mayer (.674 in 136 to .594 in 228) Worse and in more PAs

Abreu (.786 to .773) was not a significant drop off, but I had hopes 2026 would be a bust out year at his age.

The plusses were too few and far between:

Rafaela .708 (587) to .764 (576 PAs) Can he go over 600 PAs in '27?

Yoshida to ..696 (205) to  .746 (but only 297 PAs)

Wong .500 (188) to .655 (238) More significant than maybe many realize.

Sogard's PAs are so low, this was minor (.661 in 104 to .727 in 277)

Some other comps:

.905 Devers (334 PAs) to .901 Contreras (535 PAs)

.821 Bregman (495) to Durbin 

.726 Narvaez (446) to AR .688 (126)

.838 Refsnyder (209) to .993 Jones (76) & .679 White (60)

.790 N Lowe (119) .659 Toro (284) & .580 Casas (112) to .823 Gasper (225) I could have comped these 3 to Willson.

.664 KC (263) and .590 DHam (194) to Seigler (.727 in 173) .633 IKF (183) and Monasterio (.665 in 347)

[moonslav59]

11 minutes ago, notin said:

Are you talking about analytics or baseball card stats?

Analytics itself is a vague term, but it doesn’t try to seem like MLB has data for every situation - day games, week day games, late start Wednesday double headers, vs LHP that throw hard, vs RHP that rely on breaking pitches, vs the hitter’s brother-in-law after both forgetting and remembering anniversaries.

The biggest myth that needs to be debunked around these analytics departments is they’re just math nerds who have never played sports and just draw hard data conclusions they force managers to comply with.  Many of these analysts have both math and baseball backgrounds. And many managers are very data-savvy.  Heck I’ve seen ads for these jobs (Fangraphs actually runs them on occasion), and in most of them, baseball experience is a prerequisite.

Just because Goose Gossage doesn’t like them doesn’t mean he speaks for everyone…

Here is another way to look at it in a general sense....

Do you think if analytics driven changes made to player's approaches caused declining production, they'd still be relying on it so heavily?

[notin]

17 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Here is another way to look at it in a general sense....

Do you think if analytics driven changes made to player's approaches caused declining production, they'd still be relying on it so heavily?

And people don’t seem to want to admit this kind of stuff has ALWAYS been part of the game.  ERA isn’t some stat inherent to game play; it was made up to evaluate relief pitchers.  But no one thinks of it as being even distantly related to the analytics of today…

[moonslav59]

Just now, notin said:

And people don’t seem to want to admit this kind of stuff has ALWAYS been part of the game.  ERA isn’t some stat inherent to game play; it was made up to evaluate relief pitchers.  But no one thinks of it as being even distantly related to the analytics of today…

Exactly. management, coaches and players themselves have always been seeking ways to improve. Being able to watch film was maybe the first technological advance in analyzing player approaches, but long before that knowledgeable baseball people were able to identify flaws and suggest improvements that many times worked.

The massive increase in data and analytics may have reached overload levels and sometimes crowded out some player's minds to the point they got worse, but if this started happening to more players than have been helped, the practice would slow or stop (or reverse.) 

I wouldn't be surprised if maybe a guy like Duran was hurt by "knowing too much" or trying to "overthink" his way into getting better, when it actually made him worse, but that is pure speculation on my part. I do think some players have probably been hurt.

One guy that comes to mind in Manny Ramirez. They guy worked harder than many people realize. He was often the first to show up at the park to take extra batting practice, but I don't think he tweaked his approach very much or often. His strength seemed to be keeping his mind clear of clutter and pressure. He always seemed so relaxed than many felt he was a loafer or lazy. This "calmness" as I often called it, was what helped him be a  better batter. He didn't let bad calls by umps upset him. He could be o for 4 with 3 Ks and be the same batter in his 5th AB and crack a dinger. Nothing seemed to bother him. He never pressed. Maybe this works best for some guys. Has anyone come to him and said ____ about how his approach could be improved based on X, Y, Z data, it might have hurt his numbers.

Again, pure speculation. For all I know, maybe Manny used analytics more than most others, for his time.

[Old Red]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Meeting expectations has two major aspects to it:

1. What are the expectations for a player's first 545 PAs? (I think there was a wide range on this site, but I don't recall anyone saying he'd be an MVP candidate out of the gate.)

2. What was the production? (We know this site has a wide range of criteria used to judge production, plus those like you with sliding scales depending on your bias.)

To those who thought he'd be near an MVP candidate in his first 545, they'd say he failed to meet expectations, but the baffling thing to me is you were clearly not in this group. Yet, here you are saying he came up way short. (See sliding scale point.)

To me, the big letdown was the missed time- both in 2025 and 2026. His production when he played was fine in 2025, but fell short in 2026. He may have been playing hurt for a chunk of 2026, and yes, that is an actual excuse, and no it was not his pinky finger.

He did not meet my expectations in 2026, but I will add that had he produced his .339 OBP over 600 PAs, the team would have been way better than it was. The near .305 OBP by our 1-2 batters hurt our offense more than not having Alonso vs Willson. His lack of power and high K rate did outweigh a half-way decent .339 OBP. Nobody is saying Roman met 2026 expectations,  but you will continue to pretend there is this great number of posters disagreeing with you.

His career numbers after 545 PAs is pretty good, to me. I'd have expected more homers, but 46 XBHs is not all that low. IMO, his .371 OBP far outweighs 150 Ks and 13 HR total. When you project out to 650, his first 650 would come to: .271  with 15 HRs and 55 XBHs. 

That may not be enough to meet some posters expectations, but if they think he fell short enough to raise a stink about it, I'd argue their expectations were set to high for 21-22 year player just starting his MLB career.

My guess is .272 15 and 55 compare pretty well with many great players in MLB. I'm not worried about his production projections- I'm worried about his injuries and why his last seemingly minor injury took so long to heal and may still not be healed, today. That's my major concern with Roman.

You rant about the "Roman Empire" hype, but you are no different but from the bottom of the barrell level you gravitate towards. You think your cute nicknames makes you look whitty, but it's actually quite petty and tiresome. Almost all of them have negative connotations, even for good players, but the part that exposes you is how much disdain you have towards those who assign positive or optimistic labels or nicknames on players, but you give yourself a pass for doing the exact same from the garbage end of the spectrum.

MOOn don’t get yourself all overheated you’ll set the curtain on fire. I could care less if my nicknames grinds you, or whatever else you want to call it, or if you do your Gomer Pyle impression, and call citizens arrest, citizens arrest, because I said little A hurt his pinky doing a pinky swear with Mayer. If a little thing like that bothers you so much get a life. Or calling out connotations on the Con Man when I’m just using part of his name like I did with many other names. My so called clown friends says thanks for the kind words, and present company accepted. They were impressed with another nickname you gave to little A. Some players are just a JAG, but now little A is the JAR. IF you’re impressed with little A so far then good for you, but to me, and lots of others he’s still pretty SUSPECT, or just a JAR as you call him. As usual keep up the good work, and have a good night.👋

[Old Red]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Great post, notin. One of your best ever.

You can’t get a much lower bar than this.🤭🙈

[notin]

5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

You can’t get a much lower bar than this.🤭🙈

My grandma used to say “you know you’re doing something right when the idiots disagree with you.”