Red Sox (Crochet) vs Twins (Ober): 4/13/26, 7:40pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

The Twins are playing pretty well, but I still don't think they're good. And today's pitching matchup tilts overwhelmingly into the Sox's favor.

	WED	THU	FRI	SAT	SUN	TOT
Zack Kelly	0	0	18	0	23	41
Tyler Samaniego	19	0	22	0	0	41
Ryan Watson	12	0	0	13	0	25
Jovani Morán	0	0	17	0	0	17
Greg Weissert	11	0	18	16	0	45
Garrett Whitlock	0	0	0	12	0	12
Danny Coulombe	0	0	0	5	5	10

[mvp 78]

If the Sox win tonight, they'll have the same record (7-9) as they did last season after game 16. 

[moonslav59]

Ober was pretty good from '22 to '24:

1.03 WHIP was 4th best in MLB!

3.66 ERA (115 ERA+)

89 ERA- ranked 27th

3.74 FIP

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Ober was pretty good from '22 to '24:

1.03 WHIP was 4th best in MLB!

3.66 ERA (115 ERA+)

89 ERA- ranked 27th

3.74 FIP

The biggest difference was his k% which was above 25%. It was 19% last year and 12% this year. Just not missing bats anymore. 

[moonslav59]

9 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The biggest difference was his k% which was above 25%. It was 19% last year and 12% this year. Just not missing bats anymore. 

He's not the same pitcher, but knowing our luck, tonight will be the game he begins his turn-around.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

23 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

He's not the same pitcher, but knowing our luck, tonight will be the game he begins his turn-around.

Ober never pitched for Boston before where he could sit in dugouts or bullpens every day and discuss with staff mates how -- if given the chance -- they'd exploit the hole in the swing of each Red Sox batter (this is really who writes the forward in "the book" that pitchers eventually compose on every MLB hitter).

 

[jad]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

He's not the same pitcher, but knowing our luck, tonight will be the game he begins his turn-around.

It's not bad luck that is responsible for this season so far!

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, jad said:

It's not bad luck that is responsible for this season so far!

Not even a little bit?

1 run wins: 1

2 run wins: 0

1 run losses: 3

2 run losses: 3

6 of 9 losses are by 1-2 runs.

1 of 5 wins is by 1-2 runs.

[mvp 78]

34 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Not even a little bit?

1 run wins: 1

2 run wins: 0

1 run losses: 3

2 run losses: 3

6 of 9 losses are by 1-2 runs.

1 of 5 wins is by 1-2 runs.

62 runs scored

62 runs allowed

[mvp 78]

Scored less than 3 runs: 5 times

Allowed less than 3 runs: 5 times

[mvp 78]

Scored less than 4 runs: 7 times

Allowed less than 4 runs: 9 times

[mvp 78]

They were a 2-8 team that was playing like a .500 team. They are better than a last place team, but I don't see a playoff team right now. 

2 GB AL East

2.5 GB AL

 

 

[moonslav59]

38 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

62 runs scored

62 runs allowed

Yup, but the close games losses (6) vs close game wins (1) hint at some bad luck.

You disagree?

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Yup, but the close games losses (6) vs close game wins (1) hint at some bad luck.

You disagree?

They lost 3 games: 2-3. They lost one extra inning game. I'm sure there's some luck/SSS involved. 

They lost all of Early's starts. Ranger's xFIP showed that his first two starts weren't as bad as his ERA. Weissert has pitched better than his ERA suggests too. Sure, they should be 7-8 or 8-7 instead of their current record. Over the course of 162, they get good luck to overcome what we've seen so far. They just need to play better baseball.

[mvp 78]

They made Dustin May look like a capable starter! 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The Red Sox losing record in extra innings in the 2020s is always due to SSS.

Scarce Sacrifice Skills.

In 2021, when Boston's offense was good enough to go deep into the ALCS, the Sox were 11-5 in extra innings.

The rest of this decade: 29 wins, 44 losses. That's a .397 winning percentage... or to misquote Meatloaf: two outta five ain't good.

[moonslav59]

44 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They lost 3 games: 2-3. They lost one extra inning game. I'm sure there's some luck/SSS involved. 

They lost all of Early's starts. Ranger's xFIP showed that his first two starts weren't as bad as his ERA. Weissert has pitched better than his ERA suggests too. Sure, they should be 7-8 or 8-7 instead of their current record. Over the course of 162, they get good luck to overcome what we've seen so far. They just need to play better baseball.

No disagreement, here.

Of course, they've had some good luck, too, but it seems like more bad than good, so far.

It's not the major reason we are where we are.

[moonslav59]

The line-up:

L Anthony DH

R Durbin 3B

L Duran LF

R Contreras 1B

L Abreu RF

R Story SS

L Mayer 2B

R Narvaez C

R Rafaela CF

 

[FredLynn]

11 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

If the Sox win tonight, they'll have the same record (7-9) as they did last season after game 16. 

They’re about as good as/ bad as last year. 
Already losing. Game almost over.

[FredLynn]

2-0

Game over. Pathetic 

[FredLynn]

Even Crochet sucks

Can’t watch much more of these BUMS

[FredLynn]

Enjoy this loss

Outta here

BUMS BUMS BUMS BUMS!

[Jasonbay44]

Story’s range at SS was pathetic 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The Cards' pitching may be the worst the Sox will see all season.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 minute ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

The Cards' pitching may be the worst the Sox will see all season.

IOW, don't get all that excited about the Sox runs scored against the Cards. This is still a weak offense.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I seriously doubt Crochet will duplicate his '25 season, which will be another nail in this '26 season's coffin.

[Jasonbay44]

Crotchet with an absolutely horrendous start. Didn’t even give Sox a chance tonight 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, Jasonbay44 said:

Crotchet with an absolutely horrendous start. Didn’t even give Sox a chance tonight 

Horrendous may be too kind.

[FredLynn]

Lol

Just tuned back in. Not sure why. This is one horrible team. 
11-0

LMFAO!

[JoeBrady]

That was as rapid as it gets.  4-0, with a guy on 1st,  Two walks, a 2B off the wall and the coup de grace HR on the 1st pitch.  I'm not sure that took 5 minutes to go 'a lot of trouble' to 'time to go home',