Red Sox (Crochet) vs Yankees (Warren): 8/23/25, 1:05pm

[moonslav59]

11 hours ago, Maxbialystock said:

Very enlightening.  Thanks.  

Those numbers included Saturday's game.

[Bellhorn04]

18 hours ago, vegasbob said:

Final Forty update: 5-3 , huge series win. potential sweep. 32 to go !

But how is this the same  team that just dropped 2 to O's

Baseball can be so random. 

[Bellhorn04]

24 minutes ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

I watched the Yankees telecast of that game.  The despair in their tone as they admitted the Yankees are getting their asses kicked was priceless.  God they are playing just such terrible baseball all over the field.  

The Yankees have not been getting much of an infusion of talent from their farm system.  They had high hopes for Dominguez but he's been very mediocre so far.  And Volpe of course has been struggling mightily after getting off to a strong start.

[moonslav59]

11 hours ago, Maxbialystock said:

I disagree.  The Yankees lineup is loaded, but the Sox bullpen, Bello, Crochet, and even Giolito were at the top of their form.  

The Yankees do have the best offense in MLB, according to  multiple metrics and traditional stat categories. They blow all other teams away on the offense component of WAR for everyday players:

92.2 NYY

77.2 LAD

71.0 TOR

(BOS is 11th at 29.3, which is aided by their +6,2 baserunning)

wRC+

116 NYY

113 LAD & TOR

111 NYM & AZ

(Sox are 12th at 104)

They have 19 more homers than LAD and are 66 ahead of the #15 team. (Sox are 12th.)

Their OPS is fueled more by SLG (1st) than OBP (4th). OPS:

.779 NYY

.767 LAD & AZ

.764 TOR

.752 BOS

You'd expect them to lead the majors in runs scored, but they don't.

668 LAD

663 MIL

659 NYY

651 BOS (Thanks, in part, to yesterday's 12-1 win.)

I will say this: their numbers on offense are greatly enhanced by just 2-3 players, who most have injury issues and or are getting older.

Judge is a beast and has missed some time, this year. He still leads the team in PAs and OPS. Stanton is 10th in PAs on the Yanks and is also over 1.000 for his OPS. Their offense is somewhat unbalanced. I think this is why they do not lead the league in runs.

Here are the Yankee players listed in order of most PAs with their OPS:

1.114 Judge 529 PAs

.675 Volpe 509 (WOW! 2nd in PAs)

.817 Bellinger 508 (He and Rice are the only others over .800.)

.760 Goldschmidt 454

.796 Grisham 447 (Certainly been a plus on offense)

.821 Rice 414

.799 Chisholm 402 (almost over .800)

.713 Dominguez 397

.685 A Wells 363

1.009 Stanton 177

.452 Peraza 170 (almost as many PAs as Stanton)

.674 LeMahieu and .631 O Cabrera

To be fair, the Yanks do have 6 batters over .760 and 400 PAs. The Sox have just 3 players over 400 PAs and one over .760 (Duran at .779,) but that highlights the more balanced offense, we have and maybe why we are so close to the Yanks in runs scored.

Here is our list:

.779 Duran 569 PAs

.735 Story 521 (seeing him at #2 in PAs is great!)

.714 Rafaela 466 (struggling at the plate, of late.)

.811 Abreu 395 (due to platoon)

.923 Bregman 362 (due to injury)

.739 Narvaez (maybe snapped out of funk)

.659 Toro 284 (DFA)

.664 Campbell 263 (may not play for big club)

.846 Anthony 262 (should rise in PA rankings)

.838 Romy 240 (playing more and more)

.827 Refsnyder 157 (on IL & platoon only)

.545 DHam 153, .481 Wong 147 & .643 Yoshida 103

(Lowe is at 1.159 in just 18 PAs)

We have 8 players with 150+ PAs and above .735. The Yanks have 7. (Pretty close.)

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

The Yankees do have the best offense in MLB, according to  multiple metrics and traditional stat categories. They blow all other teams away on the offense component of WAR for everyday players:

92.2 NYY

77.2 LAD

71.0 TOR

(BOS is 11th at 29.3, which is aided by their +6,2 baserunning)

Judge is a beast and has missed some time, this year. He still leads the team in PAs and OPS. Stanton is 10th in PAs on the Yanks and is also over 1.000 for his OPS. Their offense is somewhat unbalanced. I think this is why they do not lead the league in runs.

 

The issue with the Yankees is their unbalanced roster.  If Judge has a bad night, as he tends to do in October and against us it seems, they are very beatable.  

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

The issue with the Yankees is their unbalanced roster.  If Judge has a bad night, as he tends to do in October and against us it seems, they are very beatable.  

Agreed.

Judge has also missed time with injuries, not just this year.

Stanton has missed a ton of time.

Rice, Bellinger, Grisham & Chisholm have done well, this year, but I don't see them as the types to carry and offense, when Judge and Stanton are out or not having big games.

When all healthy, they have a solid 6. Goldschmidt at .760 looks fine, but he's at .735 since April 15th and .618 since May 31st (225 PAs) He hit .716, last season, so maybe that's who he really is, now.

Six is better than a lot of teams. I'm not saying the Yankee offense is a weakness. It is far from that, but when it gets to crunch time, teams can pitch around Judge and Stanton, and fell pretty confident the other 4 guys won't burn them.

I guess you could say the same about Bregman and Anthony, but Story leads the team in RBI and the Abreu-Ref and Lowe-Romy platoons give us two slots that beat any of those 4 Yankees. Duran may not be a reliable "key hit" batter, but he is suck an offensive threat in other ways, so he has to be seen as at least equal to those second tier 4 Yankee batters. Narvaez and Rafaela offer some hope, as well and Jh Garcia is the wild card addition.