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15 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Just go to the next full season: 2019

The Nats were 9th in wRC+ and 6th in OPS

They were 5th in fWAR pitching but 13th in ERA-

5th in OAA and 12th in DRS

Problem being they 1st in fWAR for SP. This wasn't on your menu for the Sox success. I'd take it. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

We added Pedro and Schilling and won.

We added Beckett and won.

We added Lackey and won.

We added Price & Sale and won.

We traded one of the Sox greatest hitters, Nomar, for a glove at SS and won.

 

Of course hitting matters, bigtime, but the Sox have traditionally been great hitting teams for decades, even beyond the park padding stats, but we tend to win, or come close to winning, when we boost the pitching, or have some elite pitchers. (Lonborg '67, Tiant & Lee '75, added Torrez in '78, Clemens & Co in '86...

Well, we had Lackey in 2010,  2011, and 2012 (in spirit), and none of those years went well.

But in 2013, the Sox added RYAN DEMPSTER, and apparently it put them over the top…

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9 minutes ago, notin said:

Well, we had Lackey in 2010,  2011, and 2012 (in spirit), and none of those years went well.

But in 2013, the Sox added RYAN DEMPSTER, and apparently it put them over the top…

Need more Dempster diving...

Posted
56 minutes ago, notin said:

Well, we had Lackey in 2010,  2011, and 2012 (in spirit), and none of those years went well.

But in 2013, the Sox added RYAN DEMPSTER, and apparently it put them over the top…

The Lackey addition was not the shiny example to cement my point, but he was an important addition to the team, in terms of the 2013 ring.

Look at all the mashing teams the Sox had that went nowhere, or lost quickly onc making the playoffs. Yes, some of them had decent pitching and even the exact same names as the teams that did win it all, but to be the strongest correlation to Sox teams winning, is when we made that extra step to add a solid SP'er to oen or two we already had.

Adding big hitters helped, too. I'm not trying to minimize that. No Manny- No rings. No Papi- No rings. Adding JD was a big boost. Lynn & Rice. Baylor & Boggs...

Posted
1 hour ago, notin said:

But in the NFL, greatness is defined by winning.  And quite often by winning the Super Bowl.  At some point, you’re saying “in order to win the Super Bowl, you need a QB that can win the Super Bowl.”  The logic is getting circular…

Sorry but I honestly have no idea what this means.

Brady's and Mahomes's teams have PHENOMENAL records, regular season and postseason.  I think it has a lot to do with them. 

 

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