Article: Checking In On Dave Dombrowski, Five Years After He Left The Red Sox

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

30 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Epstein - gone - 2011

Cherington - gone - 2015

Dombrowski - gone - 2019

Bloom - gone - 2023

(4 championships among them)

Leave it to the Red Sox to produce such a bizarre numerical pattern even in the midst of being successful... 

 

How is that so many Red Sox leaders suck so badly enough in the eyes of John Henry that they need to be fired -- and almost immediately after they all land similar jobs elsewhere in the industry?

After awhile, even a megalomaniac staring down into a pond has to recognize the watered-down image staring back.

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1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

On what basis have you determined that Bloom is docile and timid?  

By virtue of him needing to be to set up the punchline…

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2 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

On what basis have you determined that Bloom is docile and timid?  

He drinks WhistlePig. 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

What he's saying is it's that there's a common thread between the Red Sox "offer" to Cherington and their "offer" to Bogaerts (and Lester before him).  And the latest of course is their reported "offers" to some personnel to stay on at reduced pay. 

It's just how they roll.  They have their own way of expressing how much they appreciate your efforts and want you around. 

That makes sense, and it's hard to disagree with this assessment of hoe this team's management "rolls." 

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

How is that so many Red Sox leaders suck so badly enough in the eyes of John Henry that they need to be fired -- and almost immediately after they all land similar jobs elsewhere in the industry?

After awhile, even a megalomaniac staring down into a pond has to recognize the watered-down image staring back.

One answer might be how JH seems to go with the idea of cycles of windows of winning vs rebuilding.

Theo kinda did both. Ben was sort of i rebuild mode. DD was here for the winning window. Bloom was in total rebuild mode.

Just my take, but I do not think DD was well-suited for a 3-5 year rebuild, just as I do not think Bloom would have been hired for a big spending 4-5 year winning window period.

JH saw the talent we had under Ben, and how he mangled his big signings. It was the right move to go with DD. JH knew he was going to radically cut the budget, and knew that was not something DD would like or maybe handle well. Hence, the change to Bloom.

The loss of heo was a weird one, but Theo wanted more control, and even admitted he got away from the principles the team had established earlier.

I'm not saying JH handled things well. I don't think he did, and his methods were worse than the reasons for doing so, IMO.