Red Sox (Fitts) vs Blue Jays (Gausman): 9/25/24, 7:07pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

[mvp 78]

Only 43.1 scoreless innings to go before Fitts can match Hershiser's record. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Only 43.1 scoreless innings to go before Fitts can match Hershiser's record. 

Fitts is a rookie, so maybe a better comp is Fernando Valenzuela... who set a few records as a rookie.

Richard has a 0.00 ERA in his first 15.2 IP, so only needs another 2.1 scoreless to best Fernando's 17.2 scoreless in 1980 at age 19 (in 10 games, all in relief). 

Of course, FernandoMania was still eligible as a rookie the next year, when he became a starter in a strike-shortened season and led the NL in shutouts (8), innings pitched, complete games, strikeouts, and won Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, Silver Slugger and the World Series.

[mvp 78]

Just now, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Fitts is a rookie, so maybe a better comp is Fernando Valenzuela... who set a few records as a rookie.

Richard has a 0.00 ERA in his first 15.2 IP, so only needs another 2.1 scoreless to best Fernando's 17.2 scoreless in 1980 at age 19 (in 10 games, all in relief). 

Of course, FernandoMania was still eligible as a rookie the next year, when he became a starter in a strike-shortened season and led the NL in shutouts (8), innings pitched, complete games, strikeouts, and won Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, Silver Slugger and the World Series.

I actually like Fernando, so it's hard for me to compare Fitts to him. Maybe we can go with MondoDick? 

[dgalehouse]

Look for the Jays to lay down again tonight. 

[vegasbob]

A potential 5 game win streak on tap ?? Who knew what these guys are capable of ? 

I will say that watching the smoothness and timing of Story at SS and Grissom at 2B on a DP ball  is miles and away beyond Valdez and Hamilton.

[mvp 78]

57 minutes ago, dgalehouse said:

Look for the Jays to lay down again tonight. 

That team has tried to lay down every year since they hired Montoyo in 2019. Feel like they "won" a lot of trade deadlines and offseasons, but have generally underperformed expectations considering the roster. 

[mvp 78]

25 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

A potential 5 game win streak on tap ?? Who knew what these guys are capable of ? 

I will say that watching the smoothness and timing of Story at SS and Grissom at 2B on a DP ball  is miles and away beyond Valdez and Hamilton.

I believe this would be the 4th 5 game win streak of the year. They have not had a 6 game win streak. 

[vegasbob]

19 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I believe this would be the 4th 5 game win streak of the year. They have not had a 6 game win streak. 

I would literally scream if they run the table after making some late, late season sit-downs of guys who physically couldn't play anymore this year.   The 3rd WC is a joke, but it is a ticket to the event, and you can't win it all if you are not there.

Of course it might be hard to find a set of pitchers for a WC game.  Could have been an Opener type game, lol

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, vegasbob said:

I would literally scream if they run the table after making some late, late season sit-downs of guys who physically couldn't play anymore this year.   The 3rd WC is a joke, but it is a ticket to the event, and you can't win it all if you are not there.

Of course it might be hard to find a set of pitchers for a WC game.  Could have been an Opener type game, lol

If they make a run at it, they are destined to fall one game short. 

[dgalehouse]

I would expect the Rays to play tougher than the hapless Jays just based on the type of manager they have. But the Sox could well win out. Then, check the out of town scores. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

3 hours ago, vegasbob said:

I would literally scream if they run the table after making some late, late season sit-downs of guys who physically couldn't play anymore this year.   The 3rd WC is a joke, but it is a ticket to the event, and you can't win it all if you are not there.

Of course it might be hard to find a set of pitchers for a WC game.  Could have been an Opener type game, lol

Theo still owns a retainer on Bruce Chen to start one game if they make it. I think he pearl jammed with him one weekend.

"Someday, and that day may never come," said Epstein, "I may ask a favor in return..."

[illinoisredsox]

Hate to break it to all of you, but scoreless means exactly that; no runs allowed, period.  Fitts has allowed 2 runs, albeit unearned.  Fernando’s record is safe for now

[mvp 78]

47 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

Hate to break it to all of you, but scoreless means exactly that; no runs allowed, period.  Fitts has allowed 2 runs, albeit unearned.  Fernando’s record is safe for now

“I’m the party pooper” -ILredsox

[vegasbob]

Fitts may have to accept the fact that he has allowed 2 unearned per Illinois,  but his performance in his starts, including today, seem to show that he has a serious shot at helping this team going into 2025.  His motion and command looks like that of a pitcher, not just a thrower

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

39 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

“I’m the party pooper” -ILredsox

Illinois is like Jack Webb "Just the facts, maam."

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Knowing the SOX need relief pitchers, would you include Mayer in a trade to acquire Mason Miller from the A's?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

With all the attention on Judge and Ohtani, Vlad, Jr has had an outstanding season.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Thank you Jose Jimenez, the ballplayer.

[vegasbob]

Fitts, who has now allowed  multiple earned runs, should be chastised and castigated by the Red Sox faithful for not setting any records at all in his 4 starts.   What a sham. Send him him back to WooSox or even the Yankees as damaged goods

[vegasbob]

20 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Knowing the SOX need relief pitchers, would you include Mayer in a trade to acquire Mason Miller from the A's?

Why not just acquire the whole A's franchise, keep what we could use and send the remains  "return postage' to Las Vegas or Sacramento where that woe begotten ballclub will need to hide for awhile.

[vegasbob]

What is the chance of trading for that fat beer league softball catcher Alejandro Kirk before he does more damage to the Sox. ?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

2 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

What is the chance of trading for that fat beer league softball catcher Alejandro Kirk before he does more damage to the Sox. ?

First base was open for both Vlad and Kirk, the two hottest hitters on the Jays and the 'genius' Cora has Fitts pitch to both of them.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

First base was open for both Vlad and Kirk, the two hottest hitters on the Jays and the 'genius' Cora has Fitts pitch to both of them.

How about trading Cora and Mayer to the A's for Miller.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

6 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

What is the chance of trading for that fat beer league softball catcher Alejandro Kirk before he does more damage to the Sox. ?

Kirk is definitely a better defensive catcher than Wong. In fact, Wong is rated near the bottom as a defensive catcher.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just informed by the Jays' booth that Duran has had 723 PA's so far this season.

[vegasbob]

Isn't this game the dreaded "mathematically eliminated"  finale to 2024?   Even if the Sox make a comeback and win, Tigers and Royals are both winning after 6 in their games with a 3.5 game lead ?

It has been an interesting season.  Now we can let some of the young guys play vs Rays and have some fun.   Oh wait, they have been playing all year. Maybe that's why it's time to book a few tee times for next week.

[vegasbob]

7 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Kirk is definitely a better defensive catcher than Wong. In fact, Wong is rated near the bottom as a defensive catcher.

Wong initially appeared last year to be able to throw out Superman trying to steal but his overall defense and ability to block or even hold on to pitches has deteriorated this year. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

As if Bobby Witt, Jr. isn't one of the best at so many offensive stats, he's also the fastest runner in MLB according to Stat Cast.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Duran's arbitration should be very interesting this offseason. 

Hoping the SOX give him a well-earned extension.