Red Sox (Pivetta) vs Astros (Blanco): 8/20/24, 8:10pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

Another Stat Masterson justifying the past vs the future

 

I just posted some stats to outline Devers' recent performances. I didn't editorialize in the slightest bit.

 

But also, you living in Temecula? I graduated from Escondido High School.

[illinoisredsox]

Another Stat Masterson justifying the past vs the future

 

This makes no sense Vegas.

[Jasonbay44]

Besides the weird double timeout strikeout, Casas has had some great AB tonight

[Maxbialystock]

Well said, but it doesn't explain Devers' low BA with RISP.

 

You're darn right it doesn't. And tonight has been a perfect night/game in which to vent our frustration.

 

If you will remember, it was 10-20 games ago when the the Sox came to bat in the bottom of the 10th inning with the score still tied--the Mariners had failed to score in the top of the 10th. The Mariners manager brought out a lefty reliever and pitched to Devers, who promptly tattooed the LF wall with the winning hit.

 

The consensus on talksox, was naturally that the Mariners manager was an idiot for even thinking of pitching to THE GREAT ONE, RAFAEL DEVERS. And I said it was apparent the choice of a lefty reliever meant the manager wanted to pitch to Devers. If he got him out, he could always walk the next Sox hitter, a righty (Ref?), who would be followed by one or more lefty bats. I did point out that statistically Devers is not only weaker with RISP but also against lefties. No one agreed with me of course.

 

Top of the 9th and Devers just crunched a screamer to RF.

[FredLynn]

A quick look at FanGraphs:

 

Start of season to July 1: 150 wRC+

 

Since: 166 wRC+

 

He had a 1.015 OPS in June, a 1.132 OPS in July, and an .838 OPS in August thus far.

 

Do you know when he injured his shoulder? It could be a cumulative thing that got worse over time.

Just guessing.

 

Now if he could face the Yankees every game maybe the results would be better

[illinoisredsox]

I just posted some stats to outline Devers' recent performances. I didn't editorialize in the slightest bit.

 

But also, you living in Temecula? I graduated from Escondido High School.

 

You’ll quickly learn a couple things about Fred. First, he’s here largely to yank chains. Second, he’s never wrong, just ask him.

[Maxbialystock]

Jansen get his walk, and the Astros pitcher deserves some kind of booby prize even though they can still get out of this inning.

[FredLynn]

I just posted some stats to outline Devers' recent performances. I didn't editorialize in the slightest bit.

 

But also, you living in Temecula? I graduated from Escondido High School.

 

Me?

No

Northern CA

[Brock Beauchamp]

Me?

No

Northern CA

 

Oh sorry, mixed up your profile with someone else.

[FredLynn]

Anyone here honestly think we can win this?

[Brock Beauchamp]

You’ll quickly learn a couple things about Fred. First, he’s here largely to yank chains. Second, he’s never wrong, just ask him.

 

Ah, it's all good. Part of buying into a community is buying into the community. The personalities are what make it what it is. And there are outlandish characters in every community, it's part of what makes them fun.

 

I did quite a bit of research into this community before buying it. There are lots of others I could have purchased but did not, I like you silly folks.

[FredLynn]

Ah, it's all good. Part of buying into a community is buying into the community. The personalities are what make it what it is. And there are outlandish characters in every community, it's part of what makes them fun.

 

I did quite a bit of research into this community before buying it. There are lots of others I could have purchased but did not, I like you silly folks.

 

You paid money to join us here?

😉

Illinois is wrong about me though. I ALWAYS want what’s best for this team.

Sometimes however they play like a little league team.

And not making the playoffs, not being competitive year after year is getting very old

[Jasonbay44]

They didn’t blow this game!!!

[FredLynn]

I can’t believe I just saw a save

[Maxbialystock]

If we could superimpose last night's Jansen's pitches with tonight's, I swear we would find he three the same exact mix and locations.

 

But this time he gets the save, and the Sox get a much needed win.

[Brock Beauchamp]

You paid money to join us here?

 

I own the site now.

 

Seriously, though, I own the site.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Nice win!

[FredLynn]

Now back to Days of our Lives reruns…..

[Maxbialystock]

I can’t believe I just saw a save

 

It's his 24th and he threw the same stuff he threw last night. But last night was not for a save.

[FredLynn]

I own the site now.

 

Seriously, though, I own the site.

 

I assumed you are the admin here. I read that somewhere. Hope you enjoy it. It’s a lot more fun when the team is competitive. There’s a lot of frustration when it’s not.

[FredLynn]

It's his 24th and he threw the same stuff he threw last night. But last night was not for a save.

 

I missed the end of last night’s game. Didn’t he surrender the game on a HR?

[Maxbialystock]

I think bringing Casas back was dicey because his injury was from swinging a bat and he reported he is still feeling pain when he fouls pitches off.

 

But can there be any freaking doubt doing so was the right move? I hasten to add that's the same reason for keeping Devers around.

 

It is still too soon to start checking these Sox players pockets for loose change.

 

I did, however, just get a text message from Devers, Rafaela, Hamilton, and Casas who jointly apologize for not making errors tonight so that all the talksox boobirds could whistle their favorite tune.

[jgar658]

Every time the bullpen does the job we win.

I think a strong bullpen may be more important than an average

group of starting pitchers.

[moonslav59]

That was a big win, but we need more. Spring board this into something special!

[Brock Beauchamp]

I assumed you are the admin here. I read that somewhere. Hope you enjoy it. It’s a lot more fun when the team is competitive. There’s a lot of frustration when it’s not.

 

I run several baseball sites, it's just another Tuesday for me.

 

But I'm interested to see how you New Englanders flare up about baseball, y'all have a passion for baseball unknown to most of the country.

 

I will enjoy it, that much I guarantee.

[moonslav59]

KCR lost.

 

The Yanks are getting ruffed up in the 12th.

 

Let's hope this is the start of a comeback.

[Maxbialystock]

I missed the end of last night’s game. Didn’t he surrender the game on a HR?

 

He absolutely did. He struck out the first guy with that same junky stuff he threw tonight. Opposing managers should be reporting Jansen to the police for grand theft of ball games. And he's getting away with it with the umps checking his glove, his hands, and goodness knows what else.

 

Kojii Uehara was much, much better in 2013, but the one thing both these guys had/have is absolutely no fear.

 

The dinger last night was off the first pitch to the second Astros batter in the 9th. The mystery is why that doesn't happen half the freaking time.

 

Credit to Cora and especially Breslow for keeping Jansen in Boston.

Edited August 21, 2024 by Maxbialystock

[FredLynn]

I think bringing Casas back was dicey because his injury was from swinging a bat and he reported he is still feeling pain when he fouls pitches off.

 

But can there be any freaking doubt doing so was the right move? I hasten to add that's the same reason for keeping Devers around.

 

It is still too soon to start checking these Sox players pockets for loose change.

 

I did, however, just get a text message from Devers, Rafaela, Hamilton, and Casas who jointly apologize for not making errors tonight so that all the talksox boobirds could whistle their favorite tune.

 

Casas has an injury that may take a very long time to heal-if it ever heals. He tore some cartilage. Because cartilage has no blood supply it can’t heal-it’s like what happened to Pedroia but not in as bad a location. He may always feel some pain when he swings. There was no point in keeping him in Worcester. I don’t know what Devers’ injury is. If it’s muscular or osseous (bone) it will most likely heal in time if it’s rested.

Torn cartilage is a bitch

[vegasbob]

I just posted some stats to outline Devers' recent performances. I didn't editorialize in the slightest bit.

 

But also, you living in Temecula? I graduated from Escondido High School.

 

Yes, currently live in Temecula. Go to Escondido sometimes. The comment pertains to a frequent occurrence here that when any player fails to come through in the CLUTCH ( a denied concept) and is criticized , some commenters immediately go to season long or even career long stats to justify the player's existence. Alex Speier of the Globe, a Red Sox reporter, was nicknamed Stat Masterson by the NESN announcers for his in depth knowledge of the numbers.

[vegasbob]

I run several baseball sites, it's just another Tuesday for me.

 

But I'm interested to see how you New Englanders flare up about baseball, y'all have a passion for baseball unknown to most of the country.

 

I will enjoy it, that much I guarantee.

 

Not being a New Englander or lifelong follower of the Red Sox, you will wonder about some of the angst and negative commentary here, but it is all in good fun, since the Red Sox and John Henry do not pay any of us for correcting the poor decisions made.