2023 Prospects

[moonslav59]

Two questions:

 

How many recent prospect grads and prospects will see playing time in 2023?

 

How many will see significant time in 2023?

 

Recents Grads

1. Bello

2. Casas

3. Wong

4. Crawford

5. Winckowski

6. Duran

7. Ort

 

Prospects (current ranking) - have seen some MLB action

8. Kelly 26

9. German 24

10. Seabold 22

 

Should/might see playing time in 2023:

11. Rafaela 4

12. Mata 6

13. Walter 8

14. Murphy 13

15. E Valdez 17

16. R Hernandez 27

17. D Hamilton 32

 

I'm thinking 13-14 get a chance- 14 if I had to pick one number and maybe 10-12 get a good look- I'll go with 11.

 

I have the highest hopes, from these 10 of the 17...

 

Bello

Casas

Mata

Kelly

Walter

Crawford

Wong

German

Winckowski

E Valdez

 

Pretty amazing, after about 5 years of seeing just Houck as an impact prospect on the big club, we may see 10 to 14 get a shot and maybe 5-7 that may win key roles on the 2023 team.

[mvp 78]

Yes. soxprospects.com has him being ML ready "late 2023."

 

 

They also have him listed on the projected WOO roster.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Two questions:

 

How many recent prospect grads and prospects will see playing time in 2023?

 

How many will see significant time in 2023?

 

Recents Grads

1. Bello

2. Casas

3. Wong

4. Crawford

5. Winckowski

6. Duran

7. Ort

 

Prospects (current ranking) - have seen some MLB action

8. Kelly 26

9. German 24

10. Seabold 22

 

Should/might see playing time in 2023:

11. Rafaela 4

12. Mata 6

13. Walter 8

14. Murphy 13

15. E Valdez 17

16. R Hernandez 27

17. D Hamilton 32

 

I'm thinking 13-14 get a chance- 14 if I had to pick one number and maybe 10-12 get a good look- I'll go with 11.

 

I have the highest hopes, from these 10 of the 17...

 

Bello

Casas

Mata

Kelly

Walter

Crawford

Wong

German

Winckowski

E Valdez

 

Pretty amazing, after about 5 years of seeing just Houck as an impact prospect on the big club, we may see 10 to 14 get a shot and maybe 5-7 that may win key roles on the 2023 team.

 

Bloom's Christmas wish: one of the prospects he traded for gets promoted to fill in for an injured guy and hits bombs, like Valdez, or runs wild, like Hamilton... for about a month, until MLB pitchers figure out huge holes in their at bats.

 

If you can't have Lynn and Rice, settle for naughty and nice.

[mvp 78]

Valdez and Abreu have a little bit of potential. At the moment, I can't project them to be MLB regulars, but they are more likely to have an impact than Hamilton.

[moonslav59]

They also have him listed on the projected WOO roster.

 

That was why I answered "Yes."

[moonslav59]

Had Casas and Bello not been called up, last year, here is where BTV might have ranked our top 5 prospects:

 

7. Mayer 55.4

18. Casas 41.3

28. Bello 33.2

80. Rafaela 15.1

89. Bleis 13.6

[Larry Cook]

Is Romano in our top 5 by the end of 2023?

[moonslav59]

Is Romano in our top 5 by the end of 2023?

 

If he isn't, it means he got worse, as he's 7th now, and Casas and Mata should graduate in 2023- maybe Rafaela, too.

[Larry Cook]

If he isn't, it means he got worse, as he's 7th now, and Casas and Mata should graduate in 2023- maybe Rafaela, too.

 

Or others have passed him on the list, and whoever we get at 14 should be a really good player!

[moonslav59]

Or others have passed him on the list, and whoever we get at 14 should be a really good player!

 

True.

 

Who in the system, now, might pass Romero?

 

Perales?

Walter?

Wikelman, Anthony or some super young guy?

[Larry Cook]

True.

 

Who in the system, now, might pass Romero?

 

Perales?

Walter?

Wikelman, Anthony or some super young guy?

 

Paulino looks ready to take a leap like Rafeala,

[moonslav59]

Paulino looks ready to take a leap like Rafeala,

 

I like how our farm is shaping up.

 

We have over 10 players that are ML ready of will be, this season.

 

We have more that will be ready, next year or to start 2025.

 

Going farther out is always hard to project, but we have some really promising prospects in low A and the rookie leagues.

[Larry Cook]

I like how our farm is shaping up.

 

We have over 10 players that are ML ready of will be, this season.

 

We have more that will be ready, next year or to start 2025.

 

Going farther out is always hard to project, but we have some really promising prospects in low A and the rookie leagues.

 

I think Hang’em Chaim has done a remarkable job of improving the depth and quality of our position players. He remains very weak at stocking the system with quality arms, however.

 

Mayer is the jewel of the farm system and I am willing to bet he is untouchable in future trades.

 

Behind him we have a good half dozen second tier position players future stars and we have not had that since the cherrington days.

[moonslav59]

I think Hang’em Chaim has done a remarkable job of improving the depth and quality of our position players. He remains very weak at stocking the system with quality arms, however.

 

Mayer is the jewel of the farm system and I am willing to bet he is untouchable in future trades.

 

Behind him we have a good half dozen second tier position players future stars and we have not had that since the cherrington days.

 

It's hard to fault him for taking Mayer over a pitcher, and some of his other non-pitcher picks seem to be rising up as the years go past, too.

 

Bloom's Prospect pitching additions:

 

Via trade, Rule 5 of FA

Whitlock

Kelly

German

Winckoski

Seabold

Kaleb Ort

Taylor Broadway

Luis de la Rosa

 

Draft or IFA

Rodriguez-Cruz

Drohan

Paez

Uberstine

Luis Guerrero

Noah Dean

Hunter Dobbins

Wyatt Olds

Michael Gettys

[moonslav59]

Ronaldo Hernandez is having a great winter in the Columbian League

 

OPS of .932 while hitting .288/.390/.542 with six home runs in 118 at-bats.

[mvp 78]

True.

 

Who in the system, now, might pass Romero?

 

Perales?

Walter?

Wikelman, Anthony or some super young guy?

 

If anyone would jump above Romero, I'd bet on a pitcher like Perales, Wikelman or ERC. Even if Walter starts strong in AAA, he's more likely to just get promoted to MLB and lose eligibility than jump above Romero IMO.

[mvp 78]

I think Hang’em Chaim has done a remarkable job of improving the depth and quality of our position players. He remains very weak at stocking the system with quality arms, however.

 

Mayer is the jewel of the farm system and I am willing to bet he is untouchable in future trades.

 

Behind him we have a good half dozen second tier position players future stars and we have not had that since the cherrington days.

 

Part of the issue is that arms typically take a longer time to develop than bats. We'll see if his guys develop.

[mvp 78]

Ronaldo Hernandez is having a great winter in the Columbian League

 

OPS of .932 while hitting .288/.390/.542 with six home runs in 118 at-bats.

 

I don't believe the Colombian League is a strong winter league, but it's good to see him find success.

[Larry Cook]

If anyone would jump above Romero, I'd bet on a pitcher like Perales, Wikelman or ERC. Even if Walter starts strong in AAA, he's more likely to just get promoted to MLB and lose eligibility than jump above Romero IMO.

 

If winkleman can learn command and control, he could explode next year, his stuff is really good.

[moonslav59]

If winkleman can learn command and control, he could explode next year, his stuff is really good.

 

Agreed, and his .623 OPS Against was very nice, despite the 54 BBs in 98 IP.

[moonslav59]

Best OPS Against (50+ IP and A Ball or better)

.495 German

.545 Kelly

.559 Bello

.584 Politi

.585 Walter

.593 Mata

.601 Ward

.616 Keller

.618 Stock

.623 Wikelman

.623 Paez

.626 de la Rosa

.642 Encarnacion

.653 Winckowski

.656 Seabold

.657 Uberstine

.661 Webb

 

[moonslav59]

I found E Valdez's Away splits, and I think I know why MVP did not want to provide them:

 

.996 w Sugarland, including 9 HRs in 22 games

 

Home: .773 OPS w 1 HR in 16 games

[Larry Cook]

Kavadas and binelas should both start the year at Portland. Both had huge problems last year with off speed and breaking balls. Does either make it to Worcester by year end?

[moonslav59]

Kavadas and binelas should both start the year at Portland. Both had huge problems last year with off speed and breaking balls. Does either make it to Worcester by year end?

 

I think Kavadas does, because he walks, a lot. A high K rate is much more acceptable, if your OBP is high enough.

 

Binelas is close to the point of no return for me.

[Larry Cook]

I think Kavadas does, because he walks, a lot. A high K rate is much more acceptable, if your OBP is high enough.

 

Binelas is close to the point of no return for me.

 

Who works with Kavadas and binelas on picking up ball spin on pitches during offseason?

[moonslav59]

Who works with Kavadas and binelas on picking up ball spin on pitches during offseason?

 

I have no idea. Niko's sample size in POR, this year was rather small, but I do share your concerns. BTW, he still had a .366 OBP in POR. It was his slugging that took the deeper dip. The K rate rise is surely an issue.

[mvp 78]

I found E Valdez's Away splits, and I think I know why MVP did not want to provide them:

 

.996 w Sugarland, including 9 HRs in 22 games

 

Home: .773 OPS w 1 HR in 16 games

 

Tell me more about the hitter friendly Texas League and compare it to how he fared when he moved up North?

[moonslav59]

Tell me more about the hitter friendly Texas League and compare it to how he fared when he moved up North?

 

I told you: I know nothing about the "hitter friendly" parks in the minors. You were the one that brought it up, and it turned out he hit way more homers on the road.

 

The sample size, after the trade, was rather small, and he only had 38 games in AAA before the trade.

 

Maybe the numbers at WOO are meaningful and telling. Maybe, not. I tend to think a players larger sample sizes are more meaningful, but certainly any way to project is speculation.

 

The guy can hit.

 

Can he hit MLB pitching? Nobody knows, but continue with your pessimism, if you choose.

[mvp 78]

Matthew Lugo was placed on Caguas' inactive list on Friday, Dec. 23. In 39 games for the Criollos, the 21-year-old infielder batted .275/.360/.450 with three doubles, six home runs, 19 RBIs, 20 runs scored, two stolen bases, 11 walks, and 34 strikeouts over 140 plate appearances.

 

In four games with Cartagena last week, Ronaldo Hernandez went 3 for 17 (.176) with two home runs and five RBIs. The 25-year-old slugger is now slashing .274/.387/.548 on the season with 11 doubles, one triple, eight homers, 34 runs driven in, 31 runs scored, 17 walks, and 25 strikeouts. From behind the plate, he has thrown out five of 15 possible base stealers.

[moonslav59]

On Farm Building: what grades would you give Bloom in the following areas?

 

1. 2020 Draft (shortened): 17. Yorke, 89. Jordan, 118. Wu-Yelland, 148 Drohan

 

2. 2021 Draft: 4. Mayer, 40. Fabian (DNS), 75. McDonough, 105. ERC, 136. Hickey, 166. McElveny (Kavadas, Uberstine, Guerrero, Webb)

 

3. 2022 Draft: 24. Romero, 41. Coffey, 79. Anthony (Meidroth, Brannon)

 

4. Rule 5/MiLFA: Added Whitlock, Kelly, Ort, T Reed and maybe lost TWard, Politi & Song

 

5. IFA: Bleis, Paez, de Leon, Encarnacion, Ravelo, Mejias, J Garcia, Lira, Chacon, Liu

 

6. Trades: JWinckowski, CWong, EValdez, WAbreu, FGerman, DHamilton, RHernandez, CKoss, ABinelas, MFerguson, CRosier, L de la Rosa + others