2023 Prospects

[Hugh2]

When was the last time a Sox farm system just graduated 2 players like Bello & Casas and still had a top 4 like this?

1. Anthony

2. Mayer

3. Teel

4. Bleis

 

I'm really high on Cespedes, too, but it will take time for him to show he belongs in MLBs top 50-100.

 

I also see hope in Rafaela, Yorke, Wikelman, Perales, Zanetello, Joh Garcia, Castro and Abreu.

 

We have a bunch of farther away guys that will likely jump up, next year (and some that fall.)

 

Back in 2014 after Betts graduated shortly after Bogaerts the top for were.

 

1. Blake Swihart

2. Henry Owens

3. Manuel Margot

4. Rafael Devers

 

Eduardo Rodriguez honorable mention at 5, and that offseason they added Moncada to the system as well. The System was STACKED back then. Shortly after many of those prospects help build a core that won a lot from 2016-2019

Edited September 21, 2023 by A Red Sox fan named Hugh

[Larry Cook]

When was the last time a Sox farm system just graduated 2 players like Bello & Casas and still had a top 4 like this?

1. Anthony

2. Mayer

3. Teel

4. Bleis

 

I'm really high on Cespedes, too, but it will take time for him to show he belongs in MLBs top 50-100.

 

I also see hope in Rafaela, Yorke, Wikelman, Perales, Zanetello, Joh Garcia, Castro and Abreu.

 

We have a bunch of farther away guys that will likely jump up, next year (and some that fall.)

 

Even after graduating a half dozen guys in 2022-2023, we are stacked with high quality hitters still in our farm system.

 

But we only have 2 starting pitchers with plus stuff. Winkleman and montgero.

 

I think Rafeala, abreau and maybe Valdez and troye could start 2024 in Boston. By the end of 2024, Anthony should own left field.

 

For all of his other issues, Hang’em Chaim has the development side of the organization humming nicely

[Hugh2]

Even after graduating a half dozen guys in 2022-2023, we are stacked with high quality hitters still in our farm system.

 

But we only have 2 starting pitchers with plus stuff. Winkleman and montgero.

 

I think Rafeala, abreau and maybe Valdez and troye could start 2024 in Boston. By the end of 2024, Anthony should own left field.

 

For all of his other issues, Hang’em Chaim has the development side of the organization humming nicely

 

Did you forget about Perales? he has better stuff than both those guys and is the top ranked pitcher in the system.

[moonslav59]

Back in 2014 after Betts graduated shortly after Bogaerts the top for were.

 

1. Blake Swihart

2. Henry Owens

3. Manuel Margot

4. Rafael Devers

 

Eduardo Rodriguez honorable mention at 5, and that offseason they added Moncada to the system as well. The System was STACKED back then. Shortly after many of those prospects help build a core that won a lot from 2016-2019

 

Thanks for pulling that from the archives.

[moonslav59]

Did you forget about Perales? he has better stuff than both those guys and is the top ranked pitcher in the system.

 

I mentioned Perales in this post.

[mvp 78]

Even after graduating a half dozen guys in 2022-2023, we are stacked with high quality hitters still in our farm system.

 

But we only have 2 starting pitchers with plus stuff. Winkleman and montgero.

 

I think Rafeala, abreau and maybe Valdez and troye could start 2024 in Boston. By the end of 2024, Anthony should own left field.

 

For all of his other issues, Hang’em Chaim has the development side of the organization humming nicely

 

Why would you put Anthony in LF? He’s a good enough athlete to play CF, but will be great in RF in Fenway.

[Larry Cook]

Why would you put Anthony in LF? He’s a good enough athlete to play CF, but will be great in RF in Fenway.

 

Because Rafeala is going to be the better defensive center fielder. Not at Bradley’s level, but above average.

 

I got abreau in right field because I think abreau is faster and I think abreau has a better arm!

 

Anthony should be an elite defender in left.

[moonslav59]

Because Rafeala is going to be the better defensive center fielder. Not at Bradley’s level, but above average.

 

I got abreau in right field because I think abreau is faster and I think abreau has a better arm!

 

Anthony should be an elite defender in left.

 

Abreu is "faster?"

 

[moonslav59]

Top Sox OPS on the Farm (75+ PAs)

.977 Teel A-, A+, AA

.953 Cespedes DSL

.938 Dalbec AAA

.933 Asencio DSL

.930 Abreu AAA

.911 Campbell CPX, A+

.893 Arias DSL

.886 Brannon COX, A-

.878 GRod DSL

.875 Asigen CPX, A-

.870 Nunez DSL

.869 Rafaela AA, AAA

.869 Anthony A-, A+, AA

.864 EValdez AAA

.858 Hickey A+, AA

.847 Musett DSL

 

Notables under .840

.832 Jordan

.818 Bonaci

.817 SScott

.815 Joh Garcia

.801 Kavadas

.801 DHan

.799 Meidroth

.794 Rosier

.784 Yorke

.781 Reyes

.778 RHern

.773 Castro

.758 Paulino

.739 Mayer

.640 CCoffey

.614 Ravelo

.579 Romero

 

ISO

.319 Brannon

.288 Dalbec

.264 Abreu

.232 Scott

.231 Hickey

.223 Fitzy

.222 EValdez

.218 Rafaela

.215 Cespedes

(.197 Mayer, .194 Anthony)

 

SB

57 DHam (14 CS)

49 Rosier (7)

39 Sikes (7)

36 Rafaela (13)

30 Liendo (6)

28 Ferguson (4)

[moonslav59]

Best xFIP on the Farm (80+ IP)

 

3.45 I Coffey

3.46 J Paez

3.69 Dobbins

3.85 Wikelman

3.85 Rogers

3.90 Liu

3.98 Gambrell

3.98 Bastardo

4.15 Perales

 

40IP-79IP

2.74 GBatista

3.02 CBolden

3.05 Monegro

3.13 AHoppe

3.33 CTroye

3.48 RFern

 

 

[moonslav59]

AZ League Sox Roster includes:

 

Red Sox (Glendale): Brainer Bonaci, SS/2B (No. 11); Nathan Hickey, C (No. 15); Bryan Mata, RHP (No. 23); Felix Cepeda, RHP; Wyatt Olds, RHP; Zach Penrod, LHP; Corey Rosier, OF; Christopher Troye, RHP

 

Mata might be the most recognizable name as a former top pitching prospect who has been limited by Tommy John surgery and shoulder issues in recent years. He was back up to 97-98 mph in two recent outings for Triple-A Worcester, so the Sox will hope the velo keeps coming with Glendale. Bonaci is coming off his best Minor League offensive season, having hit .297 at High-A and Double-A, while setting a career high with 11 homers, and Hickey provides some pop too as a bat-first catcher.

 

-MLB.com

[Larry Cook]

Did you forget about Perales? he has better stuff than both those guys and is the top ranked pitcher in the system.

 

Maybe Perales is having a bad day every time I see him pitch, because his stuff looks very ordinary when I see him pitch

[Larry Cook]

AZ League Sox Roster includes:

 

Red Sox (Glendale): Brainer Bonaci, SS/2B (No. 11); Nathan Hickey, C (No. 15); Bryan Mata, RHP (No. 23); Felix Cepeda, RHP; Wyatt Olds, RHP; Zach Penrod, LHP; Corey Rosier, OF; Christopher Troye, RHP

 

Mata might be the most recognizable name as a former top pitching prospect who has been limited by Tommy John surgery and shoulder issues in recent years. He was back up to 97-98 mph in two recent outings for Triple-A Worcester, so the Sox will hope the velo keeps coming with Glendale. Bonaci is coming off his best Minor League offensive season, having hit .297 at High-A and Double-A, while setting a career high with 11 homers, and Hickey provides some pop too as a bat-first catcher.

 

-MLB.com

 

Bonaci and rosier are two under the radar guys that I really like. Good bat to ball skills and short to the ball!

Both got speed to burn.

[Hugh2]

Maybe Perales is having a bad day every time I see him pitch, because his stuff looks very ordinary when I see him pitch

 

Perales is the top ranked pitcher in the Sox system according to Baseball America (7) Soxprospects (7) pipeline has him as the 2nd best pitcher behind Gonzalez at 10.

 

He’s a consensus top 2 pitcher, and considered by some to be the top pitcher in the system. You must be seeing him on bad days. Will be interesting to see if the scouting reports on hi. Change.

[moonslav59]

Perales is the top ranked pitcher in the Sox system according to Baseball America (7) Soxprospects (7) pipeline has him as the 2nd best pitcher behind Gonzalez at 10.

 

He’s a consensus top 2 pitcher, and considered by some to be the top pitcher in the system. You must be seeing him on bad days. Will be interesting to see if the scouting reports on hi. Change.

 

It is possible our two best pitchers in the system just aren't great.t

 

That being said, I like them both.

 

Wikelman has a .599 OPS Against, but is not yet at the AAA level at age

His 168 Ks in 111 IP shows he can get batters to swing and miss, but 70 BB/111 has been what has held him back.

SP's has this to say:

Had a breakout 2021 season with a strong showing in the FCL and in Low-A, jumping from the back end of the SoxProspects rankings into the top 15 by season's end. Participated in the Fall Performance Program in 2021. Name was misspelled "Wilkelman" on official rosters and the like until April 2022 due a misunderstanding caused by its pronunciation.

Potential high-quality, multi-inning relief arm. Ceiling of a mid-rotation starter. Potential for three above-average-to-better pitches, but still a long way to go to get there and must significantly improve command and control to reach his ceiling. Still unclear whether his future home is as a starter or in the bullpen. Needs to throw more strikes and be more efficient with his pitches to last deeper into games. Does not have the typical size you look for in a starter. Has simplified his delivery over the course of his career, which should make it easier for him to keep his arm in sync with the rest of his body. If command does not improve, that, along with his size and delivery, could push him to a short relief bullpen role, but with his stuff he could thrive in such a role.

Perales has had injury issues, which worries me, and his .703 OPS Against is not a WOW. The fact that he is not at AA, yet, makes those numbers very unimpressive.

115Ks in 90 IP is nice, but like Wikelman the 50BBs in 90 is concerning.

SP's says this:

 

Was not a highly-touted amateur prospect out of Venezuela. Began to show much higher promise after signing, particularly in the Tricky League in the summer of 2019. Emerged quickly as a prospect to follow. Was limited to one game due to injuries in 2021. Organization heavily monitored his workload in 2022, limiting him to no more than three innings per start. Still broke out and rose quickly into the SoxProspects top 20 by the end of the season.

Potential back-end starter. Ceiling of a mid-rotation starter. Wide variance arm with a high ceiling and low floor. Size, delivery, and inconsistent command and control profile might push him into the bullpen. Has shown among the best raw stuff of any arm in the system and was identified by scouts as the top pitching prospect in the Florida Complex League in 2022. Will flash two plus pitches, with three at least above-average. All have shown bat-missing ability. Next step in his development is finding consistency with his delivery and showing he can handle a full season's workload.

[Larry Cook]

Perales is the top ranked pitcher in the Sox system according to Baseball America (7) Soxprospects (7) pipeline has him as the 2nd best pitcher behind Gonzalez at 10.

 

He’s a consensus top 2 pitcher, and considered by some to be the top pitcher in the system. You must be seeing him on bad days. Will be interesting to see if the scouting reports on hi. Change.

 

I think you are right. I see someone pitch live 3-4 times a year! Not really enough to judge properly.

[moonslav59]

I think you are right. I see someone pitch live 3-4 times a year! Not really enough to judge properly.

 

I do appreciate your opinions based on actual sightings.

 

It's not like it's meaningless.

 

My feelings shift on prospects, based mostly on the opinions of others and what they write and the stats I see. Right now, I might go (and this could change by next week!)

 

1. Anthony

2. Teel

3. Mayer

4. Bleis

5. Cespedes

6. Rafaela

 

7. Wikelman

8. Perales

9. Zanetello

10. Abreu

11. Joh Garcia

 

12. Yorke

13. Castro

14. Monegro

15. Anderson

16. Romero

17. Hickey

18. Meidroth

19. EValdez

20. Walter

 

(I put gaps where I think a significant drop off occurs.)

 

Overrated by SPs:

Drohan, Bonaci, Paulino, DHam, Jordan

 

Underrated:

Gambrell, ICoffey, Mata, Scott

 

[moonslav59]

The official soxprospects.com EOY rankings will be released December 1st, and we may see some significant changes from their current list, but here are the biggest changes, so far:

 

Graduated

2. Casas

17. Murphy

27. Kelly

Bernardino

Robertson

Jacques

 

The drops:

5>27 Mata

7>18 Romero

9>15 Walter

10>20 Paulino

13>45 Lugo

15>21 EValdez

16>27 E R-C

21>33 Alcanatara

23>37 C Coffey

29>47 McDonough

34>40 Ravelo

36>56 F Encarnacion

 

The risers:

11>2 Anthony

14>8 Wikelman

48>10 Cespedes

22>11 Bonaci

24>12 Abreu

37>14 Joh Garcia

30>16 Meidroth

33>17 Castro

56>30 Bastardo

46>32 Hoppe

42>36 Rogers (mostly from attrition?)

NR>38 Gambrell (my new "sleeper")

NR>44 Rosier

 

The newbies:

5. Teel

9. Zanetello

24. Anderson

25. Monegro

28. Dobbins

42. Yuten

43. Arias

46. ICoffey

48. KCampbell

49. Penrod

50. B Bell

51. J Riemer

54. F Cepeda

55. R Sena

58. E Lira

59. M Duffy

60. N Song

[Larry Cook]

I do appreciate your opinions based on actual sightings.

 

It's not like it's meaningless.

 

My feelings shift on prospects, based mostly on the opinions of others and what they write and the stats I see. Right now, I might go (and this could change by next week!)

 

1. Anthony

2. Teel

3. Mayer

4. Bleis

5. Cespedes

6. Rafaela

 

7. Wikelman

8. Perales

9. Zanetello

10. Abreu

11. Joh Garcia

 

12. Yorke

13. Castro

14. Monegro

15. Anderson

16. Romero

17. Hickey

18. Meidroth

19. EValdez

20. Walter

 

(I put gaps where I think a significant drop off occurs.)

 

Overrated by SPs:

Drohan, Bonaci, Paulino, DHam, Jordan

 

Underrated:

Gambrell, ICoffey, Mata, Scott

 

 

Been quite a few years since we had a top 20 this talented. Only 4 pitchers in your top 20! Very sad.

 

Of your top 20 Anthony, teel, Rafeala, winkleman, abreau, Valdez and Walter could all be in Boston a year from now.

[moonslav59]

Been quite a few years since we had a top 20 this talented. Only 4 pitchers in your top 20! Very sad.

 

Of your top 20 Anthony, teel, Rafeala, winkleman, abreau, Valdez and Walter could all be in Boston a year from now.

 

I'd like to have more than 4 pitchers in the top 20, but I'm hopeful we will eventually trade some everyday prospects for a known good, young pitcher.

[Larry Cook]

Kavadas almost got to 100 walks again this season!!!!

 

Pretty amazing eye for the strike zone

[moonslav59]

Kavadas almost got to 100 walks again this season!!!!

 

Pretty amazing eye for the strike zone

 

Second in HRs (22) on the farm to Bobby Dee, but soxprospects dropped him from their top 60.

 

He's got an .805 OPS at a higher level than last season. 8 HRs in 148 ABs at WOO.

 

I can understand the drop, but knocked off the top 60 list is a loss of confidence by the site. The 172 Ks is a major factor.

 

 

[Larry Cook]

Second in HRs (22) on the farm to Bobby Dee, but soxprospects dropped him from their top 60.

 

He's got an .805 OPS at a higher level than last season. 8 HRs in 148 ABs at WOO.

 

I can understand the drop, but knocked off the top 60 list is a loss of confidence by the site. The 172 Ks is a major factor.

 

 

 

His swing is too long and too slow.

 

In the last week of the season, it looks like he is starting his swing earlier and able to get the head of the bat through the ball.

 

I do not know if this adjustment translate to fewer strike outs next season, but I think it is a good start

[moonslav59]

Last game of the minor league season for the Sox was cancelled.

 

Final Numbers

OPS (350+ PAs)

.938 Dalbec

.930 Abreu

.869 Rafaela

.869 Anthony

.858 Hickey

 

(80-299 PAs)

.977 Teel (114 PAs)

.953 Cespedes (209)

.933 Asencio (106)

.911 Campbel (84)

.893 Arias (159)

.886 Brannon (77)

.878 GRod (136)

.875 Asigen (206)

.870 Nunez (215)

.864 EValdez (232)

.847 Musett (164)

.817 Salazar (240)

.815 Jog Garcia (247)

 

HR (XBH)

33 (50) Dalbec (493 PAs)

22 (34) Abreu (363)

22 (38) Kavadas (480)

20 (54) Rafaela (444)

19 (47) Scott (403)

19 (44) Hickey (359)

18 (51) Jordan (476)

17 (37) DHam (469)

17 (34) RHern (393)

16 (36) Binelas (328)

14 (45) Anthony (491)

 

SB (CS)

57 (14) DHam

49 (8) Rosier

39 (7) Sikes

36 (13) Rafaela

30 (6) Liendo

28 (4) Ferguson

 

[moonslav59]

His swing is too long and too slow.

 

In the last week of the season, it looks like he is starting his swing earlier and able to get the head of the bat through the ball.

 

I do not know if this adjustment translate to fewer strike outs next season, but I think it is a good start

 

His swing was slow when they had him ranked top 20 to start the season.

[moonslav59]

Farm Leaders in xFIP

3.02 Bolden A, A+

3.05 Monegro A, A+

3.45 ICoffey A+, AA

3.46 Paez A (lead in WHIP at 1.01)

3.50 Fernandez A, AA

3.69 Dobbins A+, AA

3.73 Wikelman A+, AA

3.85 Rogers A, A+

Others:

3.98 Gambrell A+, AA

3.98 Bastardo A+, AA

4.00 de la Rosa A

4.09 E R-C A

4.15 Perales A, A+

 

[mvp 78]

His swing was slow when they had him ranked top 20 to start the season.

 

DH/backup 1B profile. Big platoon split. I think he's still a top 60 guy, but I see why he fell.

[mvp 78]

@BaseballAmerica

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@RedSox

2023 Minor League Player Of The Year:

 

Roman Anthony

[moonslav59]

@BaseballAmerica

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@RedSox

2023 Minor League Player Of The Year:

 

Roman Anthony

 

Sounds right.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

It looks like the Red Sox will have the 11th pick in the draft next year, which is pretty sweet, and should lead to another stud prospect in the farm system. The Mets will likely lose 10 spots in the draft, which puts the Red Sox at 11. Fortunately, the Red Sox have been losing a lot lately, and the Padres should now finish with a better record.