Juan Soto sweepstakes

[jacksonianmarch]

Soto just turned down a 15 year $440 mil offer from the Nats. That would have been the largest contract extension EVER and it wouldn’t even be close. Betts’ 12 year $365 mil contract stands as the largest contract in terms of dollars ever doled out. Soto would have beaten that by $75 million.

 

It stands to reason that Soto wants out of Washington. And now the Nats are expected to move him. So, build a package to get Juan Soto for the rest of this year plus two more seasons.

 

For the Yanks….

 

Nestor Cortes Jr

Anthony Volpe

Ken Waldichuk

Austin Wells

[Bellhorn04]

I say leave him in Washington.

[notin]

BTV gives Soto a surplus value of $193mill.

 

A package of Cortes, Volpe, Waldichuk and Wells have a combined surplus value of $94million.

 

The site does confirm that this offer is nowhere near the ballpark.

 

And for Soto, if you are comfortable giving up the package, it is not enough.

 

I don’t think either the Sox or the Yankees can put together a package to acquire Soto. A package of Mayer, Casas, Yorke and Bello, for example, only combines to a surplus of $149mill. And that easily tops the Yankee offer.

 

Both the Sox and Yankees would also find it very difficult if not impossible to retain Soto while also losing other star players, namely Devers and Judge.

 

So simple question - is the upgrade from Judge to Soto worth the top 4 Yankee prospects? (I don’t think they will care about Cortes. I know I wouldn’t trade my superstar for a package that included a 28yo plate bloomer who could easily pumpkin himself back to reality any second now.)

[notin]

I say leave him in Washington.

 

The one team that scares me for getting him is Baltimore. No team has an obvious “this should get him” package, but Baltimore, with Adley Rutschman, Grayson Rodriguez, and Gunnar Henderson, can probably put together the best offer. And really, they have a legit reason to do so right now…m

[Bellhorn04]

The one team that scares me for getting him is Baltimore. No team has an obvious “this should get him” package, but Baltimore, with Adley Rutschman, Grayson Rodriguez, and Gunnar Henderson, can probably put together the best offer. And really, they have a legit reason to do so right now…m

 

Don't forget that whatever team acquires Soto will have to pay him 45-50 million over the next 2 seasons in arb salaries. And will have little hope of signing him to an extension.

 

Only the deepest pockets need apply.

[notin]

Don't forget that whatever team acquires Soto will have to pay him 45-50 million over the next 2 seasons in arb salaries. And will have little hope of signing him to an extension.

 

Only the deepest pockets need apply.

 

They can sign him now and eschew the arb years, but yes, he is not for the shallow-pocketed…

[notin]

And deepest pockets = the Mets…

[Thunder]

My ideal package for Juan Soto:

- The Fenway Sausage Guy

- John Henry

- My left testicle

[notin]

My ideal package for Juan Soto:

- The Fenway Sausage Guy

- John Henry

- My left testicle

 

John Henry AND your left testicle? So two testicles.

 

And a sausage guy.

 

Wait a second….

[Kimmi]

Soto just turned down a 15 year $440 mil offer from the Nats. That would have been the largest contract extension EVER and it wouldn’t even be close. Betts’ 12 year $365 mil contract stands as the largest contract in terms of dollars ever doled out. Soto would have beaten that by $75 million.

 

It stands to reason that Soto wants out of Washington. And now the Nats are expected to move him. So, build a package to get Juan Soto for the rest of this year plus two more seasons.

 

For the Yanks….

 

Nestor Cortes Jr

Anthony Volpe

Ken Waldichuk

Austin Wells

 

The 15 year, $440M offer is sickening. Absolutely sickening.

 

Why did Soto turn down the offer? Is it because he wants to play somewhere else and he is willing to take a lesser contract to play with a team where he'll be happier? Or did he turn it down because he thinks he can get an even bigger contract? I can get on board with the former, not so much with the latter.

[Kimmi]

I say leave him in Washington.

 

I agree. He's not coming to Boston, so Washington is a good place for him.

[Kimmi]

John Henry AND your left testicle? So two testicles.

 

And a sausage guy.

 

Wait a second….

 

You are not right.

[notin]

You are not right.

 

It wasn’t my offer…

[Meh]

My guess is the Dodgers, they give up Lux, May, Miller, Busch, Pages, Pepiot, and Bruns, with taking on Corbin's contract. Extending Soto for 15 years at 580 million.

[Bellhorn04]

My guess is the Dodgers, they give up Lux, May, Miller, Busch, Pages, Pepiot, and Bruns, with taking on Corbin's contract. Extending Soto for 15 years at 580 million.

 

580 million...Jiminy Crickets!

[notin]

My guess is the Dodgers, they give up Lux, May, Miller, Busch, Pages, Pepiot, and Bruns, with taking on Corbin's contract. Extending Soto for 15 years at 580 million.

 

I had to run that through BTV.

 

Overpay in terms of surplus value, but rejected due lack of a sufficient headliner. (And I had to eliminate Bruns because it doesn’t allow an infinite amount of players to be traded.)

 

But in reality, Rizzo should be fired if he turned that deal down. Then he should be re-hired immediately just so he could be fired again…

[Northern Star]

The 15 year, $440M offer is sickening. Absolutely sickening.

 

Why did Soto turn down the offer? Is it because he wants to play somewhere else and he is willing to take a lesser contract to play with a team where he'll be happier? Or did he turn it down because he thinks he can get an even bigger contract? I can get on board with the former, not so much with the latter.

 

From what ESPN says, he turned it down because he'd be the 15th highest AAV.

[notin]

From what ESPN says, he turned it down because he'd be the 15th highest AAV.

 

I thought the AAV was a bit low.

 

The thing is, a 15 year deal is crazy, but a lot less crazy if the player is 23…

[moonslav59]

I thought the AAV was a bit low.

 

The thing is, a 15 year deal is crazy, but a lot less crazy if the player is 23…

 

So, would he take $430/14 or $415/13?

[Bellhorn04]

So, would he take $430/14 or $415/13?

 

Something tells me it's the number after the dollar sign that matters most to Soto. And he turned down $440.

 

So I'd say no and no.

[moonslav59]

Something tells me it's the number after the dollar sign that matters most to Soto. And he turned down $440.

 

So I'd say no and no.

 

So, $500M/25?

 

Lol

[Kimmi]

From what ESPN says, he turned it down because he'd be the 15th highest AAV.

 

I read something similar this morning. He wants the highest contract in MLB history, but he also wants one of the top AAVs. In other words, it's all about the money and his ego.

 

No thanks.

[Kimmi]

Something tells me it's the number after the dollar sign that matters most to Soto. And he turned down $440.

 

So I'd say no and no.

 

It was speculated that he might have taken the $440M deal for fewer years, thereby raising the AAV. Maybe $440M for 12 years? Either way, that's a crazy amount.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I read something similar this morning. He wants the highest contract in MLB history, but he also wants one of the top AAVs. In other words, it's all about the money and his ego.

 

No thanks.

 

You silly. It's all about respect.

[Kimmi]

You silly. It's all about respect.

 

Apparently, every new young superstar player is going to think he deserves to have the highest contract. It's out of control.

[moonslav59]

He is the best projected talent going forward2, and he's already proven he is up at the top.

 

I think anyone in his shows would think they deserve the best deal. I don't hold it against him, but I don't have to pay him what he wants, either.

 

I am certain Bloom won't.

[notin]

He is the best projected talent going forward2, and he's already proven he is up at the top.

 

I think anyone in his shows would think they deserve the best deal. I don't hold it against him, but I don't have to pay him what he wants, either.

 

I am certain Bloom won't.

 

How many of the usual suspects can swing a trade for him and still afford to lock him up? And do so without losing any current superstars awaiting a payday?

[Bellhorn04]

How many of the usual suspects can swing a trade for him and still afford to lock him up? And do so without losing any current superstars awaiting a payday?

 

The Yankees could swing it and consider him the replacement for Judge.

[redsoxrules]

I can't see any teams trading a haul to then having to fork out a massive deal. You'd be hindering your team doing so. The Nats will be forced to lessen their demands if they want to unload him

[notin]

The Yankees could swing it and consider him the replacement for Judge.

 

He’d have to be. Even the Yankees won’t be able to tie up nearly $100mill in 2 corner OFs and a DH…