NCAA Football

[moonslav59]

S T R E T C H I N G, and really grasping for anything, and everything with this. I’m sticking strictly to college football. You can go anywhere you want to.

 

Is college rankings speculative and biased towards prestigious schools or not?

[moonslav59]

#4 FSU beat Clemson in OT.

 

Big game for the Domers vs Ohio St, tonight!

[Old Red]

ND coughed, coughed, coughed it up at the end. Rushing 3 at the end of the game with the ball on their 22 was playing the ITDD.Invitation TO Defeat Defense, and they did.

[moonslav59]

ND coughed, coughed, coughed it up at the end. Rushing 3 at the end of the game with the ball on their 22 was playing the ITDD.Invitation TO Defeat Defense, and they did.

 

They did show they can play toe-to-toe with the big boys, but yes, some questionable decisions, a dropped interception, missed FG and that damn prevent defense at the end of games.

 

Lost the game as the runner is tackled with one second left and the ball is right on the goal line. Maybe 2-3 inches from victory.

 

Great game, though.

[Jasonbay44]

DJ Brown dropped two INT

 

Notre Dame only had 10 men on the field each of the last two plays

 

The dumb prevent defense on 3rd and forever.

 

Bad coaching at the end and costly dropped interceptions were the difference, along with the missed FG that Moon mentioned.

[Old Red]

Dumb prevent defense, or as I like to call it The Invitation To Defeat Defense just doesn’t work so many times in football, but yet it’s used so many times.Only 10 men on the field the last two plays? WTF!So many plays during the game that if ND makes just one of them they win. This one is gong to sting for a long time. Edited September 24, 2023 by Old Red

[Jasonbay44]

Dumb prevent defense, or as I like to call it The Invitation To Defeat Defense just doesn’t work so many times in football, but yet it’s used so many times.Only 10 men on the field the last two plays? WTF!So many plays during the game that if ND makes just one of them they win. This one is gong to sting for a long time.

 

And Marcus Freeman’s excuse or “not wanting to get a penalty” when he realized there was only 10 men on the field is ********.

 

1. How do you only have 10 men on the field on BACK TO BACK plays

2. The “penalty” was half the distance when they’re on the 1 yard line. I think having a defensive lineman actually in the game is worth the penalty

[Old Red]

And Marcus Freeman’s excuse or “not wanting to get a penalty” when he realized there was only 10 men on the field is ********.

 

1. How do you only have 10 men on the field on BACK TO BACK plays

2. The “penalty” was half the distance when they’re on the 1 yard line. I think having a defensive lineman actually in the game is worth the penalty

 

There were lots of other questionable calls too like on the last possession when after getting a first down run stuffed they tried a screen pass on 2nd down, which almost got picked off, but it stopped the clock as well. Then when they finally punted deep in their own territory they let the play clock run out, and took a penalty, which pushed them back 5 yards deeper when they could have just punted with a second left. They had trouble getting plays off too with the play clock winding down to often. Agree on Freeman’s excuse too. All in all he looked more like a rookie high school coach than a college coach. Not a good look at all for ND. They let a big one get away.

[moonslav59]

And Marcus Freeman’s excuse or “not wanting to get a penalty” when he realized there was only 10 men on the field is ********.

 

1. How do you only have 10 men on the field on BACK TO BACK plays

2. The “penalty” was half the distance when they’re on the 1 yard line. I think having a defensive lineman actually in the game is worth the penalty

 

Wasn't there a timeout before at least one of those last two plays?

[moonslav59]

There were lots of other questionable calls too like on the last possession when after getting a first down run stuffed they tried a screen pass on 2nd down, which almost got picked off, but it stopped the clock as well. Then when they finally punted deep in their own territory they let the play clock run out, and took a penalty, which pushed them back 5 yards deeper when they could have just punted with a second left. They had trouble getting plays off too with the play clock winding down to often. Agree on Freeman’s excuse too. All in all he looked more like a rookie high school coach than a college coach. Not a good look at all for ND. They let a big one get away.

 

In the coaches defense, despite all these worthy criticisms, the team came to play. They made adjustments to the point where they were winning the O line battles and running very well vs a tough Ohio State defense. The ND defense looked very good until the prevent D trap every coach seems to fall into. We got burned on that one blitz where nobody picked up the slot receiver, and they spotted it and got a big play.

 

The long rushing TD was just one of about 3 plays that killed us. (The blitz play and of course the long pass at the end that got them to the 1 year line vs the prevent D.) 3 bad plays on D is not bas vs a team like that, and it is something to build on.

 

Yes, the coach needs to stop making mistakes like those for us to join the big boys, for good, but I was impressed by our play, last night.

 

I know- I know, only winning counts.

[dgalehouse]

So tired of seeing the same ending play out in so many close football games. It has become very predictable. The team that is leading is invariably unable to move the ball , get a first down and run out the clock to close the show. They punt with a minute or so left. Then the defense comes on and is unable to stop the frantic, last minute drive and blows the game. Whether it's the NFL or college, it's the same thing over and over again.

[Jasonbay44]

Wasn't there a timeout before at least one of those last two plays?

 

Yes. They came out of a timeout with only 10 guys on the field

[moonslav59]

Yes. They came out of a timeout with only 10 guys on the field

 

Insanity.

[moonslav59]

So tired of seeing the same ending play out in so many close football games. It has become very predictable. The team that is leading is invariably unable to move the ball , get a first down and run out the clock to close the show. They punt with a minute or so left. Then the defense comes on and is unable to stop the frantic, last minute drive and blows the game. Whether it's the NFL or college, it's the same thing over and over again.

 

The league needs to do something about all these exciting endings!

[moonslav59]

ND falls to 11th in AP poll (best of all 1 loss teams and better than several undefeated teams)

 

13th in coaches poll.

 

We play 16th ranked Duke, next.

[mvp 78]

ND falls to 11th in AP poll (best of all 1 loss teams and better than several undefeated teams)

 

13th in coaches poll.

 

We play 16th ranked Duke, next.

 

Too high. They should be closer to Kansas/Fresno State.

[moonslav59]

Too high. They should be closer to Kansas/Fresno State.

 

2 inches from being number 6 or 7.

[Old Red]

ND falls to 11th in AP poll (best of all 1 loss teams and better than several undefeated teams)

 

13th in coaches poll.

 

We play 16th ranked Duke, next.

 

Let’s not get carried away just, because ND, and Ohio State were both undefeated. This was not a battle of 2 juggernauts, and neither was one of the two schools better teams from the past. Duke will be a tough game up next.

[moonslav59]

Let’s not get carried away just, because ND, and Ohio State were both undefeated. This was not a battle of 2 juggernauts, and neither was one of the two schools better teams from the past. Duke will be a tough game up next.

 

Who is getting carried away?

 

Had Ohio St fallen short of that TD, ND would surely have been ranked 6th or 7th, but as with all ranking services, it's all just speculation and "suspects," right?

 

Maybe they wouldn't deserve that ranking, but that's how the NCAA system works.

 

Beating Duke will help their perception of being good.

[moonslav59]

Remaining Domer Schedule:

@ Duke #17

@ Louisville

vs USC #8

off week

vs PITT

@ Clemson

off week

vs Wake Forest

@ Stanford

 

Probably looking at 3 losses- 2 with some luck.

 

Probably a better chance at 4 losses than 2.

 

[Thunder]

Remaining Domer Schedule:

@ Duke #17

@ Louisville

vs USC #8

off week

vs PITT

@ Clemson

off week

vs Wake Forest

@ Stanford

 

Probably looking at 3 losses- 2 with some luck.

 

Probably a better chance at 4 losses than 2.

 

 

I think they will beat Clemson. Beating both Duke and USC would be impressive. I expect them to lose one. Hopefully the weather in South Bend does not cooperate the night USC comes to town, which of course would favor the Irish.

 

I have been far more fascinated by college football instead of the NFL thus far. Not that it matters. Just an observation

[moonslav59]

I think they will beat Clemson. Beating both Duke and USC would be impressive. I expect them to lose one. Hopefully the weather in South Bend does not cooperate the night USC comes to town, which of course would favor the Irish.

 

I have been far more fascinated by college football instead of the NFL thus far. Not that it matters. Just an observation

 

I haven't enjoyed the NFL much in years. College football is better, IMO.

 

I enjoy March madness more than the NBA playoffs.

 

MLB beats college baseball, hands down.

[Jasonbay44]

I definitely prefer NFL over college, primarily also because I play a lot of fantasy football and find it easier to bet on than college.

[Thunder]

I haven't enjoyed the NFL much in years. College football is better, IMO.

 

I enjoy March madness more than the NBA playoffs.

 

MLB beats college baseball, hands down.

 

When you grow up in Connecticut and go to the state's flagship university, you also prefer March Madness to the NBA playoffs

[mvp 78]

When you grow up in Connecticut and go to the state's flagship university, you also prefer March Madness to the NBA playoffs

 

Yale?

[notin]

Yale?

 

Fairfield…

[mvp 78]

Fairfield…

 

My second guess was Quinnipiac.

[Thunder]

My second guess was Quinnipiac.

 

Yale and Quinnipiac regularly roast UConn in hockey, although that has changed a little bit since UConn went to Hockey East

[moonslav59]

ND beat Duke 21-14 at Duke.

Good win.

[Jasonbay44]

Sam Hartman is one hell of a player. That 4th down run was a player winners make