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Thank Boone and his reliance on stats that tell him he must pull his starter when he gets near 100 pitches no matter how well he has been pitching.

 

Cora made the same decision decision last night, and just like today, the bullpen gave away a good lead.

 

I assume we will be treated to Aaron Boone on TV next year , where he can be the statmaster of the booth

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Thank Boone and his reliance on stats that tell him he must pull his starter when he gets near 100 pitches no matter how well he has been pitching.

 

Cora made the same decision decision last night, and just like today, the bullpen gave away a good lead.

 

German wasn't stretched out, and was pitching out of the bullpen as recently as two weeks ago. So I don't have an issue pulling him there. But it was clear early that Loaisiga didn't have anything, and since he just got off the COVID IL there should've been a quicker hook to pull him from the game.

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Even more dramatic.

 

This just ended the Yankee season.

 

Boone pulled his stunningly good starter (today) after he gave up his first hit. He followed the book, and the book betrayed him the same way it betrayed Cora last night when he pulled Eovaldi.

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Even more dramatic.

 

This just ended the Yankee season.

 

Not quite. They're in Tampa next. I'd say their season is over if they don't win that series

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Since it was ignored, I gotta say it again.

 

Both games, yesterday's and today's, were lost by managers who pulled their starters too soon. I believe they were guided by stats primarily and not by what they saw on the field of play.

 

One stat says that no pitcher can succeed in the 3d or, heaven forbid, the 4th time through the opposing line up. The other is a pitch limit for starters.

 

Both of those stats actually make sense, but not always. Right now, unfortunately, the stats dominate all decision making without regard to the dynamics of the game.

 

I wouldn't say either game was won or lost on those managerial choices.

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Not quite. They're in Tampa next. I'd say their season is over if they don't win that series

 

NY Post headline:

 

"Fork Inserted!"

 

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German wasn't stretched out, and was pitching out of the bullpen as recently as two weeks ago. So I don't have an issue pulling him there. But it was clear early that Loaisiga didn't have anything, and since he just got off the COVID IL there should've been a quicker hook to pull him from the game.

 

If German hadn't been pitching a no-no, he probably would have been pulled before the 8th inning.

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NY Post headline:

 

"Fork Inserted!"

 

 

With the knife on the way! It's being sharpened by Kevin Cash on their flight home from Cleveland

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German wasn't stretched out, and was pitching out of the bullpen as recently as two weeks ago. So I don't have an issue pulling him there. But it was clear early that Loaisiga didn't have anything, and since he just got off the COVID IL there should've been a quicker hook to pull him from the game.

 

I agree there were reasons to pull Germain. On the other hand, it was just one lousy hit, the first the Sox had, and Germain was dominating the entire Sox lineup. Cora did the exactly same thing last night when Eovaldi gave up his first freaking run with two outs in the 8th inning. It was also his 100th pitch. So out he goes, and in comes the deluge.

 

The two games are identical. Both times a terrific starter gets pulled, both times with a good lead, and the bullpen butchers it. For the Sox, it was the second straight game Ottavino butchered. For the Yankees, it was a good reliever who maybe wasn't ready.

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Yankees at Rays starting on Tuesday. Oh gosh. Who do you root for??

 

Yankees. I'm satisfied the Rays are the real threat this year.

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The easy answer? The SOX.

 

Exactly. As long as we take care of business, I don't care what the Rays do. They could win 100 but if we win 101, we're still hosting a playoff series

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Exactly. As long as we take care of business, I don't care what the Rays do. They could win 100 but if we win 101, we're still hosting a playoff series

 

I just can't, in good conscience, ever root for the Yankems.

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If German hadn't been pitching a no-no, he probably would have been pulled before the 8th inning.

 

That's a good point, similar to bkzwhitestrican's The sad truth for the Yankees, however, is that Germain staying in was a much better option than bringing in Loaisiga.

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I just can't, in good conscience, ever root for the Yankems.

 

I usually root for them when we aren't playing each other. I know too many Yankees fans to wish harm on them. Result of a Connecticut upbringing

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I usually root for them when we aren't playing each other. I know too many Yankees fans to wish harm on them. Result of a Connecticut upbringing

 

Central NY where I live is Yankem territory. When I go out for a couple of brewskies wearing my SOX cap, I endure a lot of abuse from Yankem fans, and since 2004 they really hate me.

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If German hadn't been pitching a no-no, he probably would have been pulled before the 8th inning.

 

Exactly. He was already way over the intended pitch count.

 

Look how many pitchers have done very poorly, this year, after a no hitter or near no hitter.

 

Managers know what they are doing, even if we don't see it.

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Central NY where I live is Yankem territory. When I go out for a couple of brewskies wearing my SOX cap, I endure a lot of abuse from Yankem fans, and since 2004 they really hate me.

 

Btw, if it wasn't for Ted Williams, I probably would have grown up a Yankem fan, because of the environment.

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Btw, if it wasn't for Ted Williams, I probably would have grown up a Yankem fan, because of the environment.

 

My father, bless his soul, didn't follow baseball, but after years of me expounding on players like Rice, Yaz, Lynn, and Fisk, he too became a SOX fan. My father suffered a major heart attack on a Saturday afternoon in 1986; the same day that the SOX lost that 6th game to the Mets. The worst day of my life.

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Exactly. He was already way over the intended pitch count.

 

Look how many pitchers have done very poorly, this year, after a no hitter or near no hitter.

 

Managers know what they are doing, even if we don't see it.

 

Well, I'm delighted that Boone was right after all because the Sox sure needed this win. And I guess that means Cora was right last night pulling Eovaldi because, well, the Sox just didn't deserve to win that one. And it certainly meant nothing that in his previous outing Ottavino gave up another 2 runs.

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Boone pulled his stunningly good starter (today) after he gave up his first hit. He followed the book, and the book betrayed him the same way it betrayed Cora last night when he pulled Eovaldi.

 

I think the relief pitchers had something to do with it too.

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