Roenicke

[oldtimer]

Little variation on an old joke.

 

Roenicke comes in to manage the Sox and he finds 3 numbered envelopes in the desk left by Cora with instructions to open one in sequence any time he feels he is getting in trouble.

 

After going 3 for 11 and in last place Roenicke is feeling the heat and decides to open the first envelope The message contained is Blame Your Predecessor. He thinks about it and blames Dombrowski for now leaving him with a competitive team and realizes that fans agree.

 

Play goes on and the team is now 5 and 25 and the half season mark and fans aren't being kind. He doesn't know what to do so he opens the second envelope. The message in envelope 2 is Reorganize. So he brings up young players and changes the lineup and pitching. The team goes on a winning streak fed by the energy of the young players. Roemicke is elated.

 

Play continues and the opponents figure out the young players and the Sox lose the last 10 in a row. Well, he opens the last envelope hoping for guidance on how to keep his job. The message contained is Make 3 Envelopes, Sucker.

[Dalas21000]

Lol good one....Im just getting a kick out of how 1 day Benintendi is leading off and the next day hes not even in the lineup

[Dalas21000]

Ok fine...his numbers are not good against this pitcher...but whats the alternative? Putting that rookie Arauz in? Whats he gonna do for the team? lol

[Dalas21000]

I would bet donuts to dollars that even the dumbest GM in baseball is far more smarter at running a team than any of us are.

 

I disagree actually...lol

[Dalas21000]

I would bet donuts to dollars that even the dumbest GM in baseball is far more smarter at running a team than any of us are.

 

When you say run a team though, are you only talking GM? Most of the talk here has been about how Roenicke is running the team

[Dalas21000]

I would bet donuts to dollars that even the dumbest GM in baseball is far more smarter at running a team than any of us are.

 

Im not necessarily blaming the GM because he can only spend as much money as the owner allows him to as well....I think based on where the team is right now, they need a good team manager that is willing to take risks and do what needs to be done to win...Need someone thst can think outside the box a little when making a batting lineup and making pitching changes(Or not)....I still think the team has potential if they had the right coach, and someone that can do this

[notin]

Im not necessarily blaming the GM because he can only spend as much money as the owner allows him to as well....I think based on where the team is right now, they need a good team manager that is willing to take risks and do what needs to be done to win...Need someone thst can think outside the box a little when making a batting lineup and making pitching changes(Or not)....I still think the team has potential if they had the right coach, and someone that can do this

 

Potential for what?

 

Again - RYAN WEBER IS OUR #3 STARTING PITCHER.

[oldtimer]

Potential for what?

 

Again - RYAN WEBER IS OUR #3 STARTING PITCHER.

 

Maybe D-Hern can start when he returns

[notin]

Maybe D-Hern can start when he returns

 

Unless he take three turns every time through the rotation, it’s not enough.

 

See, the overt message in RYAN WEBER IS OUR #3 STARTING PITCHER is that Ryan Weber is pretty bad, and certainly not good enough for that role. The hidden message is “and yet he’s still better than two other starting pitchers in our rotation!!”

[Bellhorn04]

Unless he take three turns every time through the rotation, it’s not enough.

 

See, the overt message in RYAN WEBER IS OUR #3 STARTING PITCHER is that Ryan Weber is pretty bad, and certainly not good enough for that role. The hidden message is “and yet he’s still better than two other starting pitchers in our rotation!!”

 

Weber turns it around starting Friday. You'll see.

[mvp 78]

Im not necessarily blaming the GM because he can only spend as much money as the owner allows him to as well....I think based on where the team is right now, they need a good team manager that is willing to take risks and do what needs to be done to win...Need someone thst can think outside the box a little when making a batting lineup and making pitching changes(Or not)....I still think the team has potential if they had the right coach, and someone that can do this

 

I think that line of thinking would work better if they are really ready to win. This team isn't ready for prime time. It could be a good time to play around with ideas, but I don't know if the manager needs to do anything more than make sure his younger guys are progressing appropriately and not getting into bad habits.

 

I have to say that it seems like the Sox are much more willing to try to beat the shift with a bunt this year.

[mvp 78]

Weber turns it around starting Friday. You'll see.

 

Well, he almost doubled his Game Score from game 1 to game 2. If he does that again, it'll be closer to an average start. If he keeps compounding his Game Score like that, he'll have the CY wrapped up by year end.

[mvp 78]

Maybe D-Hern can start when he returns

 

He doesn't have the consistency. I think it's better to keep him as a reliever.

[mvp 78]

My only real question is: why isn't Kyle Hart starting? Is he just injury insurance?

[Dalas21000]

Weber turns it around starting Friday. You'll see.

 

I sure hope so, but considering what Ive seen so far in Weber, hes been very mediocre, at best

[Dalas21000]

In fact, I think the Blue Jays hit him pretty good the last time they saw him

[Dalas21000]

Weber turns it around starting Friday. You'll see.

 

I sure hope so.....I dont think he did so well the last time around against Toronto

[Dalas21000]

Potential for what?

 

Again - RYAN WEBER IS OUR #3 STARTING PITCHER.

 

And why is that? Because thats who Roenicke made the #3 pitcher

[mvp 78]

And why is that? Because thats who Roenicke made the #3 pitcher

 

Who else could he have named?

[Dalas21000]

Maybe D-Hern can start when he returns

 

Why cant they give Brice more of a chance to be a starting pitcher(Not just an opener)? He has looked great the last couple times he came in, I thought

[mvp 78]

In fact, I think the Blue Jays hit him pretty good the last time they saw him

 

His best start last year was against TOR.

 

However, that September performance against TOR was a nightmare.

 

Hard to say what it'll be like today.

[Dalas21000]

Who else could he have named?

 

I like Brice, I would give him a chance

[mvp 78]

Why cant they give Brice more of a chance to be a starting pitcher(Not just an opener)? He has looked great the last couple times he came in, I thought

 

He hasn't really started a game since 2016. Not sure he could go longer than 3 innings.

[Dalas21000]

His best start last year was against TOR.

 

 

 

However, that September performance against TOR was a nightmare.

 

Hard to say what it'll be like today.

 

Didnt he just face them in preaseason(summer)?

[Dalas21000]

Didnt he just face them in preaseason(summer)?

 

I mean summer camp or whatever

[Dalas21000]

He hasn't really started a game since 2016. Not sure he could go longer than 3 innings.

 

I thought he looked good against the Yankees....but they only let him go 1 inning...before every1 ekse got hit around

[Dalas21000]

Else*

[mvp 78]

Didnt he just face them in preaseason(summer)?

 

Ryan Weber gave up four runs over six innings in a tune-up start against the Blue Jays on Tuesday.

Weber pitched really well for the most part, though Rowdy Tellez connected for a two-run homer in his final frame. Boston’s No. 3 starter -- yes, really -- yielded six hits in all while walking one and striking out six. The 29-year-old offers good control and induces grounders, but he holds a shaky 5.04 ERA (over 11 starts and 31 relief appearances) in the majors. He’s not much of a fantasy option.

 

I'd take that over his last two starts for sure.

[mvp 78]

I thought he looked good against the Yankees....but they only let him go 1 inning...before every1 ekse got hit around

 

Yeah, he could probably get you through the order once, but pull the plug after that. He's only pitched over 3 innings once in MLB and that was 3.1 innings back in 2017.

[Dalas21000]

Yeah, he could probably get you through the order once, but pull the plug after that. He's only pitched over 3 innings once in MLB and that was 3.1 innings back in 2017.

 

Why?