Opening Day lineup.... and roster spots

[Noles_1335]

If this trade does go through what will the lineup card look like on opening day? Who will be the surprise adds to the 40 man roster?

[mvp 78]

Depends on who is included in the trade.

[notin]

If there are surprise adds, how are we supposed to know? That would defeat the whole purpose...

[mvp 78]

My surprise add is Chatham at 2b. Dalbec/Mitch platoon at 1b. Chavis used as UTIL guy.

[notin]

My surprise add is Chatham at 2b. Dalbec/Mitch platoon at 1b. Chavis used as UTIL guy.

 

I don’t like using rookies as weak side platoon options, unless that rookie has a low ceiling.

 

Dalbec does need a new position, since (hopefully) 3b is locked up for a while. If this trade happens and Verdugo locks up RF, 1b is a good option. Although trying something radical like 2b would be my first try (in Pawtucket, of course)...

[mvp 78]

He’s spent a lot of this offseason working at 1b. I wouldn’t move him off there yet.

[Noles_1335]

I think Dalbec needs a chance to show off the potential power. However, I don’t think this guy can be mobile enough to play 2B. Chatham should be the guy at 2B. Is there someone coming that can actually contribute in the rotation?

[Kimmi]

I don’t like using rookies as weak side platoon options, unless that rookie has a low ceiling.

 

Dalbec does need a new position, since (hopefully) 3b is locked up for a while. If this trade happens and Verdugo locks up RF, 1b is a good option. Although trying something radical like 2b would be my first try (in Pawtucket, of course)...

 

I don't think the Sox plan on moving Dalbec off of 1B. They re-signed Mitch more as inurance and to give Dalbec some more time if needed. Mitch might get more playing time at the beginning of the season, but eventually, Dalbec will be playing mostly everyday.

[notin]

I think Dalbec needs a chance to show off the potential power. However, I don’t think this guy can be mobile enough to play 2B. Chatham should be the guy at 2B. Is there someone coming that can actually contribute in the rotation?

 

No rotation help between Boston and Mata.

 

Dalbec absolutely lacks the mobility for 2b. But the defensive requirements of the position are in flux. Rather than being capable of making up range for slower, behemoth-like first baseman, 2bmen now spend between 1/3 and 1/4 of their time in short right field, where quickness means less but a strong arm means more. Also, while I expect Dalbec would be less agile, if he can take advantage of his 6’4” frame, he can make up for some lack of range. And if he flops, Pawtucket loses a couple more games. Low risk.

 

But yeah, I suspect he plays mostly, if not solely 1b this year...

[moonslav59]

I'd go with...

1. Beni LF

2. Bogaerts SS

3. Devers 3B

4. JD DH

5. Verdugo RF

6. Moreland 1B

7. JBJ CF

8. Vazquez C

9. Peraza 2B

 

(I think they will put Verdugo 2nd, Bogey 3rd, JD 4th and Devers 5th- maybe flip flop JD & Devers based on LH/RH starter.)

 

Subs: Plawecki, Chavis, Lin & Arauz (rule 5)

 

S1 Sale

S2 ERod

S3 Eovaldi

S4 Perez

S5 D Hern (opener) or Maeda or who we get for Betts

 

R1 Workman

R2 Taylor

R3 Barnes

R4 Walden

R5 Hembree

R6 Brasier

R7 Weber

R8 Brice

 

[moonslav59]

No rotation help between Boston and Mata.

 

Dalbec absolutely lacks the mobility for 2b. But the defensive requirements of the position are in flux. Rather than being capable of making up range for slower, behemoth-like first baseman, 2bmen now spend between 1/3 and 1/4 of their time in short right field, where quickness means less but a strong arm means more. Also, while I expect Dalbec would be less agile, if he can take advantage of his 6’4” frame, he can make up for some lack of range. And if he flops, Pawtucket loses a couple more games. Low risk.

 

But yeah, I suspect he plays mostly, if not solely 1b this year...

 

I didn't think Chavis had the mobility to play 2B, either. I'm still not sure he does.

 

We still lack starting pitcher depth- just like last year.

 

Here is what we have within the system- not counting who we might get as part of the Betts trade:

(*opener?)

Hector Velazquez

Brian Johnson

*D Hernandez

*Ryan Weber

*Tanner Houck

Mike Shawaryn

Kyle Hart

Daniel McGrath

Bryan Mata AA

Denyi Reyes AA

 

Not an inspiring list.

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2020 by moonslav59

[notin]

I’m gong with the “surprise” move(s).

 

C: Vazquez

1b: Moreland

2b: Chavis

3b: Devers

SS: Bogaerts

LF: Benintendi

CF: Verdugo

RF: Puig

DH: Martinez

BN: Plawecki, Peraza, Lin, Puello

 

SP: Sale, Rodriguez, Eovaldi, Gonsolin, Perez

BP: Kennedy, Workman, Barnes, Hernandez, Hembree, Taylor, Walden, Brice

 

Or (sigh) Ryan Weber in place of 4th OF Cesar Puello...

Edited February 9, 2020 by notin

[moonslav59]

I’m gong with the “surprise” move(s).

 

C: Vazquez

1b: Moreland

2b: Chavis

3b: Devers

SS: Bogaerts

LF: Benintendi

CF: Verdugo

RF: Puig

DH: Martinez

BN: Plawecki, Peraza, Lin, Puello

 

SP: Sale, Rodriguez, Eovaldi, Gonsolin, Perez

BP: Kennedy, Workman, Barnes, Hernandez, Hembree, Taylor, Walden, Brice

 

Or (sigh) Ryan Weber in place of 4th OF Cesar Puello...

 

That's pretty bold but not unrealistic.

 

Are you banking on us sending Arauz back?

[notin]

That's pretty bold but not unrealistic.

 

Are you banking on us sending Arauz back?

 

Banking on the Sox doing the smart thing and making a deal (player or financial) to keep him or simply sending him back. I don’t get why any team would bury a Rule 5 player in their bench, killing a year of development while also burning a year of service time...

[moonslav59]

Banking on the Sox doing the smart thing and making a deal (player or financial) to keep him or simply sending him back. I don’t get why any team would bury a Rule 5 player in their bench, killing a year of development while also burning a year of service time...

 

They must really like him.

[Swiharts Ghost]

I’m gong with the “surprise” move(s).

 

C: Vazquez

1b: Moreland

2b: Chavis

3b: Devers

SS: Bogaerts

LF: Benintendi

CF: Verdugo

RF: Puig

DH: Martinez

BN: Plawecki, Peraza, Lin, Puello

 

SP: Sale, Rodriguez, Eovaldi, Gonsolin, Perez

BP: Kennedy, Workman, Barnes, Hernandez, Hembree, Taylor, Walden, Brice

 

Or (sigh) Ryan Weber in place of 4th OF Cesar Puello...

Love the Puig addition

[SCM33]

Love the Puig addition

 

 

You should kiss Chaim Blooms ass when they don't sign Puig.

[notin]

You should kiss Chaim Blooms ass when they don't sign Puig.

 

Yeah. There are definite pros to signing Puig. But the cons to signing Puig have their own cons...

[Swiharts Ghost]

You should kiss Chaim Blooms ass when they don't sign Puig.

 

Lol you are a trip and I like it .But come onnn you have to give Bloom his props tonight right ? Love Mookie and my heart sank also but we do have a very good chance at getting him back .Verdugo ,Betts ,Benny is going to be one hell of an outfield .Devers ,Xander ,Downs ,Casas at first ? Is one hell of an infield to look forward to .

Edited February 10, 2020 by Swiharts Ghost

[SCM33]

Lol you are a trip and I like it .But come onnn you have to give Bloom his props tonight right ? Love Mookie and my heart sank also but we do have a very good chance at getting him back .

 

If you think losing him tonight is good, because we can get him back......then we are speaking 2 different languages. That dude is gone, long long gone.

[moonslav59]

Lol you are a trip and I like it .But come onnn you have to give Bloom his props tonight right ? Love Mookie and my heart sank also but we do have a very good chance at getting him back .Verdugo ,Betts ,Benny is going to be one hell of an outfield .Devers ,Xander ,Downs ,Casas at first ? Is one hell of an infield to look forward to .

 

What's the OF to look forward to?

[notin]

If you think losing him tonight is good, because we can get him back......then we are speaking 2 different languages. That dude is gone, long long gone.

 

He was gone after 2020 if the Sox didn’t trade him. Now they actually have a chance to bring him back..

[notin]

Love the Puig addition

 

And I thought my Jackie Bradley/Ian Kennedy swap would draw the most questions...

[moonslav59]

He was gone after 2020 if the Sox didn’t trade him. Now they actually have a chance to bring him back..

 

Exactly. People here are complaining about paying him $35-37M a year x 10 years, but think of the cost with a 50% lux tax attached. There's no way we could have or would have signed him without resetting in 2020.

[SCM33]

He was gone after 2020 if the Sox didn’t trade him. Now they actually have a chance to bring him back..

 

They were never willing to pay him the second highest salary in baseball when they had his rights, but now that hes gone, they would be willing to pay him the second highest salary in baseball?

 

They traded him to the Dodgers, a team more than willing to pay those types of salaries regardless of luxury tax. He is not coming back.

[moonslav59]

And I thought my Jackie Bradley/Ian Kennedy swap would draw the most questions...

 

It looked understandable, to me, despite the $4.5M more in salary.

 

How about JBJ & Chavis for Matz and D Smith?

[notin]

They were never willing to pay him the second highest salary in baseball when they had his rights, but now that hes gone, they would be willing to pay him the second highest salary in baseball?

 

They traded him to the Dodgers, a team more than willing to pay those types of salaries regardless of luxury tax. He is not coming back.

 

 

You have got to be f***ing kidding. Mookie wants to be a free agent and become the highest paid athlete EVER in any sport! He wants to make more money than the entire XFL!!

 

The Sox have already made outrageous offers to him. The Red Sox did not become one of the highest spending teams in history by shortchanging players.

 

And the Dodgers are going to pay him? Mookie asked for 10 years. Name one Dodger player EVER to get a deal like that. In fact, name the Dodger with the longest contract (hint: Yasiel Sierra)

 

Mookie is hitting the market. Book it. It’s what he has wanted all along and he has never kept that a secret. And the high soaring Red Sox check-writers just reset the tax penalties right on time..

[notin]

It looked understandable, to me, despite the $4.5M more in salary.

 

How about JBJ & Chavis for Matz and D Smith?

 

Only $3mill more towards the tax. But also freed up a place to accommodate the only free agent left capable of making an impact...

[S5Dewey]

 

Mookie is hitting the market. Book it. It’s what he has wanted all along and he has never kept that a secret. And the high soaring Red Sox check-writers just reset the tax penalties right on time..

 

In what I think is still the current vernacular...

 

"WORD"

 

Unfortunately I now have to tell my granddaughter to put her Mookie game shirt away for a year and hope for the best.

[Swiharts Ghost]

If you think losing him tonight is good, because we can get him back......then we are speaking 2 different languages. That dude is gone, long long gone.

 

.....wow glass fully empty ? Can’t live like that .