Tom Brady and FA

[mvp 78]

nothing like a Boston front office hanging a player out to dry on his way out of town.

 

People need to stop calling him "Mr Kraft" now.

[Slasher9]

People need to stop calling him "Mr Kraft" now.

 

its not the first time he's done it. he hung him out to dry with deflategate too. and then tried to walk it back.

f*** kraft.

[Kimmi]

nothing like a Boston front office hanging a player out to dry on his way out of town.

 

I don't follow the NFL offseason, so enlighten me please. Is Brady leaving because he feels as though the Pats did not give him an offer that he felt he deserved? If so, is Brady justified in his opinion?

 

Also, which is worse? The Sox trading Mookie or Brady leaving the Pats?

[oldmaninthevegasdesert]

I don't follow the NFL offseason, so enlighten me please. Is Brady leaving because he feels as though the Pats did not give him an offer that he felt he deserved? If so, is Brady justified in his opinion?

 

Also, which is worse? The Sox trading Mookie or Brady leaving the Pats?

 

bottom line is he was sick of billy boy, I would wager on Tom getting another ring before the ego.

[notin]

bottom line is he was sick of billy boy, I would wager on Tom getting another ring before the ego.

 

What stakes?

 

I will totally take that bet.

[moonslav59]

What stakes?

 

I will totally take that bet.

 

Me, too- with 2:1 odds.

 

TB will NOT win a ring in the next 2 years.

 

What I'd love to see is the Pats get Winston (not going to happen) and win next year!

[notin]

Me, too- with 2:1 odds.

 

TB will NOT win a ring in the next 2 years.

 

What I'd love to see is the Pats get Winston (not going to happen) and win next year!

 

 

Not to mention, Brady is 42. Belichick is older, but coaches age better and don’t retire as young...

[moonslav59]

Not to mention, Brady is 42. Belichick is older, but coaches age better and don’t retire as young...

 

Belichick won a lot of games with other QBs.

[Kimmi]

bottom line is he was sick of billy boy, I would wager on Tom getting another ring before the ego.

 

Is that what really happened? Brady left because of disagreements with Belichick?

 

This had nothing to do with money?

[Bellhorn04]

Belichick won a lot of games with other QBs.

 

Hmmm...

 

Belichick's record as a head coach: 273-127

 

Brady's record as starting QB: 219-64 .774

 

Belichick's record with other QB's: 54-63 .462

[Bellhorn04]

Is that what really happened? Brady left because of disagreements with Belichick?

 

This had nothing to do with money?

 

The consensus seems to be that Brady was disappointed in the offer he got from Belichick, which was for one year at a reduced salary. And Kraft let Belichick handle it and washed his hands of it.

[notin]

Hmmm...

 

Belichick's record as a head coach: 273-127

 

Brady's record as starting QB: 219-64 .774

 

Belichick's record with other QB's: 54-63 .462

 

You’re counting games with the Cleveland Browns?

[notin]

Is that what really happened? Brady left because of disagreements with Belichick?

 

This had nothing to do with money?

 

No. The cranky Nevadan is taking opportunities to insult Belicheck

[Bellhorn04]

You’re counting games with the Cleveland Browns?

 

I'm disputing moon's wildly inaccurate statement.

[Bellhorn04]

Belichick had that one good season with Matt Cassel when Brady was injured. That's it, unless you want to being Cleveland into it.

[Kimmi]

The consensus seems to be that Brady was disappointed in the offer he got from Belichick, which was for one year at a reduced salary. And Kraft let Belichick handle it and washed his hands of it.

 

Thank you for clarifying. I did not realize that Belichick was the one making offers.

[Kimmi]

No. The cranky Nevadan is taking opportunities to insult Belicheck

 

Brady, Belichick, and the Pats are far from being beloved by those who are not Pats fans.

 

I will be interested to see what kind of praise Brady might get now that he's playing for a different team. Will football fans be able to embrace him as a great QB now?

[Bellhorn04]

Brady, Belichick, and the Pats are far from being beloved by those who are not Pats fans.

 

I will be interested to see what kind of praise Brady might get now that he's playing for a different team. Will football fans be able to embrace him as a great QB now?

 

Football fans are not much different from baseball fans.

 

If you're a hard-core Patriot hater, or Yankee hater, you will do everything in your power to discredit their success.

 

But there are plenty of football fans who don't like the Patriots but won't argue about how great Brady is.

[Kimmi]

Football fans are not much different from baseball fans.

 

If you're a hard-core Patriot hater, or Yankee hater, you will do everything in your power to discredit their success.

 

But there are plenty of football fans who don't like the Patriots but won't argue about how great Brady is.

 

I get that.

 

I am just remembering how Yankees fans would criticize, criticize, criticize a Red Sox player, then as soon as that player signed with another team, he would suddenly become the greatest player ever! It's funny how our perceptions change, mine included.

[notin]

Brady, Belichick, and the Pats are far from being beloved by those who are not Pats fans.

 

I will be interested to see what kind of praise Brady might get now that he's playing for a different team. Will football fans be able to embrace him as a great QB now?

 

Oh he is the GOAT and the most likely first ballot HOF'er ever in any sport ever once he become eligible.

 

But, that said, time to root against him.

[Kimmi]

Oh he is the GOAT and the most likely first ballot HOF'er ever in any sport ever once he become eligible.

 

But, that said, time to root against him.

 

I bear no ill will towards him, but that said, with what little football I do watch, I'm a Pats fan. So I'll be rooting for whoever the new QB is.

[Thunder]

I will not be rooting against him either. I was a Pats fan until I was 10, then I switched to the Jets after Spygate, and when they got Sanchez, and then hated the Pats for the next 10 years. During the 2018 season, I started to come back to the Pats a little, and then cemented it by going to Opening Night against the Steelers this past season. I still claim to be a Pats and Jets fan, but nonetheless, in the 10 years I hated the Pats, I never hated Brady. Same kinda thing as Derek Jeter, and now Aaron Judge (and Mookie too). Love the player, hate the team they play for. I'm lucky to have grown up when this man was in his prime, so I'm going to soak in the rest of his career.

 

Also, the NFC South now has:

- Tom Brady, Mike Evans (TB)

- Drew Brees, Michael Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Alvin Kamara (NO)

- Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Todd Gurley, Calvin Ridley (ATL)

- Teddy Bridgewater, Christian McCaffrey (CAR)

 

What a fun division to watch, and we haven't even hit the draft yet.

[notin]

I will not be rooting against him either. I was a Pats fan until I was 10, then I switched to the Jets after Spygate, and when they got Sanchez, and then hated the Pats for the next 10 years. During the 2018 season, I started to come back to the Pats a little, and then cemented it by going to Opening Night against the Steelers this past season. I still claim to be a Pats and Jets fan, but nonetheless, in the 10 years I hated the Pats, I never hated Brady. Same kinda thing as Derek Jeter, and now Aaron Judge (and Mookie too). Love the player, hate the team they play for. I'm lucky to have grown up when this man was in his prime, so I'm going to soak in the rest of his career.

 

Also, the NFC South now has:

- Tom Brady, Mike Evans (TB)

- Drew Brees, Michael Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Alvin Kamara (NO)

- Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Todd Gurley, Calvin Ridley (ATL)

- Teddy Bridgewater, Christian McCaffrey (CAR)

 

What a fun division to watch, and we haven't even hit the draft yet.

 

What’s fun is that 34yo Matt Ryan is second youngest starting QB in that division. He’s actually closer in age to the youngest than he is to the oldest...

[notin]

I will not be rooting against him either. I was a Pats fan until I was 10, then I switched to the Jets after Spygate, and when they got Sanchez, and then hated the Pats for the next 10 years. During the 2018 season, I started to come back to the Pats a little, and then cemented it by going to Opening Night against the Steelers this past season. I still claim to be a Pats and Jets fan, but nonetheless, in the 10 years I hated the Pats, I never hated Brady. Same kinda thing as Derek Jeter, and now Aaron Judge (and Mookie too). Love the player, hate the team they play for. I'm lucky to have grown up when this man was in his prime, so I'm going to soak in the rest of his career.

 

Also, the NFC South now has:

- Tom Brady, Mike Evans (TB)

- Drew Brees, Michael Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Alvin Kamara (NO)

- Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Todd Gurley, Calvin Ridley (ATL)

- Teddy Bridgewater, Christian McCaffrey (CAR)

 

What a fun division to watch, and we haven't even hit the draft yet.

 

No Curtis Godwin?

[Thunder]

What’s fun is that 34yo Matt Ryan is second youngest starting QB in that division. He’s actually closer in age to the youngest than he is to the oldest...

 

Also the second worst starting QB in that division, worst if you consider playoff numbers... *28-3*

[mvp 78]

STUDham train goes choo choo

[notin]

STUDham train goes choo choo

 

“I think I can. I think I can. I think I can.”

[mvp 78]

Brady/Bucs press conference at noon.

[Bellhorn04]

Also the second worst starting QB in that division, worst if you consider playoff numbers... *28-3*

 

Atlanta's defense lost that game more than Ryan, I would say.