Red Sox select SS Jonathan Arauz in Rule V draft

[jacksonianmarch]

He is a SS from the Astros organization. He OPS'd .707 between A+ and AA as a 20 yr old with 11HR. Good contact, reasonable eye. Doesn't sound like someone who is gonna stick in the majors, though. He's really young (turned 21 in August) and only had 28 games in AA. But, he has talent, clearly. He is a switch hitter, which helps. My guess is the sox will try to work out a deal with Houston and stash the kid in AA

[jad]

"We're saved!!!"-- Estragon

[Slasher9]

can he play OF?

[jacksonianmarch]

Sox also got Raynel Espinal from the Yanks in the AAA portion of the Rule V. Throws absolute gas, 100+.

[notin]

Sox also got Raynel Espinal from the Yanks in the AAA portion of the Rule V. Throws absolute gas, 100+.

 

 

But is he ever near the strike zone?

 

Also worth pointing out, he’s 28 years old...

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Obviously, they're hoping Arauz can be another Arraez...

 

... the 22-year-old utility man who just hit .334 with an .838 OPS and 1.8 WAR in 92 games for the Twins (who were really smart before they started a rookie Uber driver instead of an All-Star in a must-win playoff game in Yankee Stadium)

[jacksonianmarch]

But is he ever near the strike zone?

 

Also worth pointing out, he’s 28 years old...

 

Strikes aren't a problem. Health is. He continues to struggle with health as both a starter and a reliever. Also, for a guy who throws as hard as he does, he allows a high amount of homers.

[Larry Cook]

Does Arauz get returned before or during spring training?

[OH FOY]

Ockimey not protected 2 years in a Row, went undrafted 2 years in a Row. Probably be just a straight DH my guess, so they can get Dalbec time at 1st.

[Bellhorn04]

"We're saved!!!"-- Estragon

 

Big extra credit for Godot references.

[OH FOY]

Sox also took P Jose Espada form the Rule 5 Draft, from the Blue Jays.

[a700hitter]

Rue 5 Draft is a waste of time.

[notin]

Rue 5 Draft is a waste of time.

 

Agreed.

 

And I don't even understand the minor league phase. What exactly happens to the drafted player?

Edited December 15, 2019 by notin

[a700hitter]

Agreed.

 

And I don't even understand the minor league phase. What exactly happens to the drafted player?

At a certain point, players who are not on the 40 man roster should just be able to seek out the best situation for themselves.

[notin]

At a certain point, players who are not on the 40 man roster should just be able to seek out the best situation for themselves.

 

That does happen. Minor league players not placed on the 40 man roster within 6 years become minor league free agents...

[a700hitter]

That does happen. Minor league players not placed on the 40 man roster within 6 years become minor league free agents...

6 years is too long imo.

[notin]

6 years is too long imo.

 

A lot of minor leaguers might agree.

 

But bear in mind some of these kids sign at 16...

[a700hitter]

A lot of minor leaguers might agree.

 

But bear in mind some of these kids sign at 16...

A college kid can be locked up to age 28

[notin]

A college kid can be locked up to age 28

 

True but the college players do get the advantage of fewer options.

 

And plenty of college players get released before age 28...

[a700hitter]

True but the college players do get the advantage of fewer options.

 

And plenty of college players get released before age 28...

Mike Yaz was tied up until age 28 by the Orioles.

[notin]

Mike Yaz was tied up until age 28 by the Orioles.

 

It does happen.

 

And if the Orioles don’t give him a chance on those 6 years, it is on them.

 

And really, how many times did teams pass on him in the Rule 5 draft? Just because one good player was a victim of the system doesn’t mean it needs an overhaul...

[a700hitter]

It does happen.

 

And if the Orioles don’t give him a chance on those 6 years, it is on them.

 

And really, how many times did teams pass on him in the Rule 5 draft? Just because one good player was a victim of the system doesn’t mean it needs an overhaul...

I gave an example of how it can be bad for a player. I didn't put it forward that one case as a justification for overhauling the system. I think it should be changed, because locking up a player for 6 years is fundamentally unfair, even for kids signed a 16 years of age.

[notin]

I gave an example of how it can be bad for a player. I didn't put it forward that one case as a justification for overhauling the system. I think it should be changed, because locking up a player for 6 years is fundamentally unfair, even for kids signed a 16 years of age.

 

 

There are certainly reasons it’s not fair and there are probably changes underway.

 

MLB has a tendency to think of MiLB as it’s lost little child. But minor league baseball is the second highest drawing sport in this country, behind only Major League Baseball...

[jacksonianmarch]

For players drafted who are 20 or older, you get one less year of control and the player is available via Rule V one year sooner as well. The problem that baseball will need to rectify when comparing themselves to other leagues is the development time needed for every player.

[mvp 78]

There are certainly reasons it’s not fair and there are probably changes underway.

 

MLB has a tendency to think of MiLB as it’s lost little child. But minor league baseball is the second highest drawing sport in this country, behind only Major League Baseball...

 

Because there's 176 teams playing long seasons.

 

Also, more people attend NCAA football games (47M) than MiLB (42M).

[notin]

Because there's 176 teams playing long seasons.

 

Also, more people attend NCAA football games (47M) than MiLB (42M).

 

I meant to type "professional". My mistake.

 

College football is technically not professional, but I can see an argument that it basically all but is. Bottom line - MiLB is a very, very big draw and higher than many people realize...

[mvp 78]

I meant to type "professional". My mistake.

 

College football is technically not professional, but I can see an argument that it basically all but is. Bottom line - MiLB is a very, very big draw and higher than many people realize...

 

I tend to agree. I know a lot of people in RI complain that the PAWSOX stopped drawing years ago, but they are always in the top 25 of total attendance for all of MiLB.

 

You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.

[notin]

I tend to agree. I know a lot of people in RI complain that the PAWSOX stopped drawing years ago, but they are always in the top 25 of total attendance for all of MiLB.

 

You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.

 

Attendance per game is obviously not competitive with the NFL or NBA. But the massive amount of opportunities to go to games is the basis for their draw. It's really the same with NCAA football, where there are something like 280 Division I teams. On TV, we only see Notre Dame or Ohio State or Michigan or some team from one of the big 6 conferences, many of which can draw crowds close to 6 digits. Whereas teams like Appalachian State or Eastern Illinois have much, much sparser crowds. But collectively a lot of people chose to spend their entertainment dollars on these events...