Bloom move your asssssss

[Swiharts Ghost]

Annnnnnnd nothing Zip bupkus gooooose egg .This is pathetic

[moonslav59]

Annnnnnnd nothing Zip bupkus gooooose egg .This is pathetic

 

At least he didn't sign a HRam and Pablo on November 25th.

[Bellhorn04]

"The waiting is the hardest part." - Tom Petty

[moonslav59]

"The waiting is the hardest part." - Tom Petty

 

Great song.

 

Also....

 

[Bellhorn04]

It feels kind of like the eerie calm before the storm.

 

What will the big news be? Betts traded, JD traded, Bradley traded, Price traded, Eovaldi traded? It seems like at least one of those things has to happen fairly soon, otherwise everything stays in limbo.

[notin]

"Well, I was sitting, waiting, wishing" - Jack Johnson

[moonslav59]

It feels kind of like the eerie calm before the storm.

 

What will the big news be? Betts traded, JD traded, Bradley traded, Price traded, Eovaldi traded? It seems like at least one of those things has to happen fairly soon, otherwise everything stays in limbo.

 

Betts to the Dodgers.

 

JD to the White Sox.

 

Eovaldi & JBJ to Astros.

 

Price to the Padres.

 

[moonslav59]

"Well, I was sitting, waiting, wishing" - Jack Johnson

 

[moonslav59]

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

"I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire

Got a cobra snake for a necktie

I got a brand new house by the road side

Made out of rattlesnake hide" - Quicksilver Messenger Service

[notin]

"I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire

Got a cobra snake for a necktie

I got a brand new house by the road side

Made out of rattlesnake hide" - Quicksilver Messenger Service

 

1. Not really a waiting song

 

2. Also from George Thorogood, who did a fantastic cover of that song...

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1. Not really a waiting song

 

2. Also from George Thorogood, who did a fantastic cover of that song...

 

But that's how this offseason feels to me... the Quicksilver live version on Happy Trails is a whole album side

[notin]

It feels kind of like the eerie calm before the storm.

 

What will the big news be? Betts traded, JD traded, Bradley traded, Price traded, Eovaldi traded? It seems like at least one of those things has to happen fairly soon, otherwise everything stays in limbo.

 

 

1. Price to San Diego for Wil Myers. It’s going to happen. Consider the following : 1) already with no need, San Diego has acquired 2 outfielders this season 2) Reportedly they want Myers out. 3) It makes a ton of sense for both teams, despite the most exciting adjective that can be used to describe Myers is the word “adequate”.

 

2. Bradley to Oakland in a three-way deal where Boston gets arb-eligible Jose Urena from the Marlins and Steve Piscotty’s contract ($6mill AAV) from Oakland, and the A’s send Idont Carewho to the Marlins. And I don’t. And you don’t either. Stop bugging me about it. Seriously.

 

These two moves save about $14 mill towards luxury tax for the Sox, and leave them needing a SP and probably a reliever. And they make Dalbec just that much more expendable time get that SP.

 

My sources (which, as I have repeatedly said before, don’t exist) insist these moves are imminent...

[moonslav59]

1. Not really a waiting song

 

2. Also from George Thorogood, who did a fantastic cover of that song...

 

There is "Waiting for the Sun."

[notin]

There is "Waiting for the Sun."

 

 

Or “I Will Wait For Bloom” by Mumford and Sons

[Tedballgame]

Betts to the Dodgers.

 

JD to the White Sox.

 

Eovaldi & JBJ to Astros.

 

Price to the Padres.

 

I would like all but JDM trade. The Sox need his bat and attitude.

[Bellhorn04]

There is "Waiting for the Sun."

 

Or “I Will Wait For Bloom” by Mumford and Sons

 

Then of course there's Waiting for Godot. Now that was a tedious wait.

[notin]

Mick Jagger was just waiting on a friend...

[moonslav59]

I would like all but JDM trade. The Sox need his bat and attitude.

 

With all the others gone, and JD likely opting out after 2020,especiallyif we blow everything up, why keep him just for one"rebuilding" year?

[notin]

With all the others gone, and JD likely opting out after 2020,especiallyif we blow everything up, why keep him just for one"rebuilding" year?

 

Just trade Price or Eovaldi. That doesn't constitute blowing anything up...

[Swiharts Ghost]

Just trade Price or Eovaldi. That doesn't constitute blowing anything up...

 

This !! Have to offer a piggyback player but it’s worth keeping Betts .But what if they offloaded Price not to keep Mookie but to make a run at someone else ?.or several players .

Edited December 7, 2019 by Swiharts Ghost

[Bellhorn04]

This !! Have to offer a piggyback player but it’s worth keeping Betts .But what if they offloaded Price not to keep Mookie but to make a run at someone else ?.or several players .

 

If/when they trade Price it's because they're dead serious about cutting payroll.

 

Hopefully we can get away with just trading Price or Eovaldi and Bradley.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

If/when they trade Price it's because they're dead serious about cutting payroll.

 

Hopefully we can get away with just trading Price or Eovaldi and Bradley.

 

Meanwhile, the experts are killing me with their speculations. Harold Reynolds on MLB said the Betts' case is simple: offer him $400 million, and if he refuses, trade him. Then there's the ESPN guys who proposed the Mookie to White Sox or Reds; if you keep reading, they also proposed Kris Bryant to the Braves for... wait for it, PACHE (good thing they didn't post that here). They even say that kind of deal may have to be expanded -- if the Cubs want young Braves' arms or Tyler Flowers -- to include Schwarber, Contreras and Almora.

 

Don't worry, I went to the trade site, and with all four Cubs for just Pache it said Major Overpay. But both the article and the site cite that it may work because of the teams' needs. At least I feel more validated that that consideration is considered.

[notin]

Meanwhile, the experts are killing me with their speculations. Harold Reynolds on MLB said the Betts' case is simple: offer him $400 million, and if he refuses, trade him. Then there's the ESPN guys who proposed the Mookie to White Sox or Reds; if you keep reading, they also proposed Kris Bryant to the Braves for... wait for it, PACHE (good thing they didn't post that here). They even say that kind of deal may have to be expanded -- if the Cubs want young Braves' arms or Tyler Flowers -- to include Schwarber, Contreras and Almora.

 

Don't worry, I went to the trade site, and with all four Cubs for just Pache it said Major Overpay. But both the article and the site cite that it may work because of the teams' needs. At least I feel more validated that that consideration is considered.

 

You can rip the simulator, but the talking heads at MLB.com and ESPN thro so much worse stuff out there. I think they just look at positions and fits and NEVER consider control or whether or not the player is actually any good...

[moonslav59]

Just trade Price or Eovaldi. That doesn't constitute blowing anything up...

 

I like this idea, but I'd add JBJ. Use the money to fill all the holes with cheap FAs or by trade. If we look to be out of it in July, look to trade JD and/or Betts.

 

I still think trying to stay halfway competitors weakens the rebuilding efforts and extends the time frame from becoming highly competitive.

[moonslav59]

This !! Have to offer a piggyback player but it’s worth keeping Betts .But what if they offloaded Price not to keep Mookie but to make a run at someone else ?.or several players .

 

You may not have to add anything (or just throw-in or cash), if you take back a lesser salary dump player.

 

Price for Myers

 

Eovaldi + a little cash for Reddick

 

[moonslav59]

If/when they trade Price it's because they're dead serious about cutting payroll.

 

Hopefully we can get away with just trading Price or Eovaldi and Bradley.

 

Here's the rub,to me: the whole we can still be competitive in 2020 mantra has been based on the (slim) hopes that Sale,Price and Eovaldi all return to form. It's hard to build a case for us being competitive without a healthy Price, Eovaldi and JBJ.

 

I guess it might depend on what we get back in return (shouldn't be much) plus who we can sign with the savings, but it seems like playing it "halfway" could be the worst option. "Could be."

 

I'm really torn on what path to take. One day I feel like we should trade 5 guys (Betts, JBJ, Price, Eovaldi& JD), but the next day I'm thinking just JBJ and wait to July. I kind of feel like it should be one or five not 2-4 players dealt.

[Bellhorn04]

The Red Sox FO doesn't need a trade simulator...they need a trade stimulator.

[notin]

You may not have to add anything (or just throw-in or cash), if you take back a lesser salary dump player.

 

Price for Myers

 

Eovaldi + a little cash for Reddick

 

 

Or Eovaldi for Odor, which works on the simulator. Eovaldi for Belt doesn’t but SF might be into it anyway.

 

But at some point, the Sox shouldn’t unload too many pitchers. They do have a season to play.,,

[moonslav59]

Or Eovaldi for Odor, which works on the simulator. Eovaldi for Belt doesn’t but SF might be into it anyway.

 

But at some point, the Sox shouldn’t unload too many pitchers. They do have a season to play.,,

 

It took this one:

 

Eovaldi, Chavis & JBJ for Belt & Yaz. We could kick in some cash, too.

 

I just posted:

 

Eovaldi, Chavis & Chatham for Belt & Dubon

Edited December 7, 2019 by moonslav59