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With the Astros taking the big lead in game 4 and now staring Verlander, Cole and someone else in the face with 2 of the 3 in Houston, it is fair to say this series isn't looking good. Not willing to say it is entirely over, but enough for me to post this thread.

 

First order of business. Gut the entire strength and conditioning team. Then gut the medical team. Hell, Stevie Donahue gets the heave-ho too. The amount of injuries and delays in returning were incomprehensible. This was more than just s*** luck. This was a conspiracy of bumbling buffoons. All of them go.

 

The current Yankees roster construction needs to be put into question. We kill the ball all season, then get to the POs and we cannot hit. This has happened 3 years in a row. We seemed to address this with the addition of Lemahieu and seeing some serious strides with Gleyber and Judge. But when you're relying on 3 guys in a lineup of 9 and the other 6 are literally killing your team, a change is needed. We added Stanton two years ago and while he is an upgrade, his health issues this year raise the most important question of, why the ever-living f*** are we playing with only 24 guys for the hope he is ready for the world series? Lots of questions. No real good answers. But the biggest question as roster construction goes is, why do we continue to fall short with the starting pitching. Yes, we went out and got Paxton. He was good, but he wasn't an ace beforehand, he isn't an ace now. His injury issues cropped up again and he is clearly hurt right now (dealt with sciatica to end the regular season campaign). Sevy battled back from injury, but he's a 4 inning pitcher this season. I expect more next year. German beat his girlfriend, otherwise he'd be our 4th starter in the POs. We have a lot of potential in the rotation, but potential only gets you so far. We need a lock down ace. Lots of people on here killed Cashman for not getting Corbin. Corbin was very good for the Nats this year, but his 7+ ERA in the playoffs this year doesn't make him look like a savior either. People killed him for not getting Greinke, but Greinke isn't a post season ace either and he had a no trade with NYY, so we couldn't get him. Where we really fell off the map was not getting Scherzer when he was available. For not getting in on a real, top tier ace. Well, that time has come. Cole and Strasburg will hit the open market. Both are aces. Both are dominant with the chips on the line. We need to get one of them. No question, no jumping out of the way of this. One of them must be on our roster come 2020. How feasible is that financially?

 

Well, if Chapman opts out and we keep the entire team intact (unlikely), we will have $192 mil on the books (this includes the arb predictions from mlbtraderumors). We would need to find a way to re-up Chapman. No other big time closers are on the list. While I doubt Chap gets $18 mil AAV on the open market, I do think he can get more years. Maybe we tack on 2 yrs and $28 mil onto his current deal and make it a 4 yr $64 mil deal and call it a day. Drop his AAV to $16 mil and leave us right at the first lux tax limit. This would leave us with $40 mil to play with. I move all my chips to the center and use as much of the $40 mil as I need to get Cole. 8 year $260 mil deal? Sign me up. We cannot be outbid. Cole is a strange cat, though. This is the same guy who professed his love for the Yankees enough for them to draft him in the 1st round only for him to say he was going to school. He is a SoCal guy and the Angels need an ace. Do they make the commitment? Who knows. But we need to be the top dollar offer. If he takes another deal for other reasons, then we cannot do anything about that. Then you turn your attention to Strasburg. His long term deal would be shorter because of the injury history, but he has the better playoff history. Fine, one of them must be leading our rotation for 2020. No questions asked.

 

Then we need to address some of our depth. We let EE walk (TB is actually paying his opt out). Didi, good luck in FA. Brett, great knowing you. We will see JMont return. We will see Andujar return. German will eventually be reinstated. Depth on the team will abound. If we bring back Chappy and sign an ace and bring back everyone else under contract, this would be the club

 

C- Sanchez, Higashioka

1B- Voit, Ford

2B- Lemahieu, Estrada

SS- Torres, Wade

3B- Andujar, Urshela

LF- Tauchman, Frazier

CF- Hicks

RF- Judge

DH- Stanton

 

SP1- Cole or Strasburg

SP2- Severino

SP3- Tanaka

SP4- Paxton

SP5- German, Montgomery, Loaisiga

CL- Chapman

SU- Britton

SU- Ottavino

SU- Kahnle

SU- Green

RP- Cessa, et al

 

Depth will not be a problem for another season, but it might be time to cash in on some of it. Do we package some of these guys together and get another ace. Do we package some of these guys together and get another hitter like Lemahieu. Do we make a drastic deal and send out Sanchez and re-sign Romine. Lots of moving parts here. Lots of options. But going into the season, the three biggest things in order are

 

1. Sign an ace

2. Fire entire strength, conditioning, medical staff

3. Re-sign Chapman

 

That's the start. Hopefully, the offseason can be fended off for a bit, but it isn't looking good at this point. The Astros are just a better team at this juncture

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Too soon

 

I hope so. Make me look like a fool Yanks. Please. Reverse lock? Not sure. But that was the most uninspired baseball I’ve seen in the Bronx in years. They were defeated as soon as Springer went yard

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With the Astros taking the big lead in game 4 and now staring Verlander, Cole and someone else in the face with 2 of the 3 in Houston, it is fair to say this series isn't looking good. Not willing to say it is entirely over, but enough for me to post this thread.

 

First order of business. Gut the entire strength and conditioning team. Then gut the medical team. Hell, Stevie Donahue gets the heave-ho too. The amount of injuries and delays in returning were incomprehensible. This was more than just s*** luck. This was a conspiracy of bumbling buffoons. All of them go.

 

The current Yankees roster construction needs to be put into question. We kill the ball all season, then get to the POs and we cannot hit. This has happened 3 years in a row. We seemed to address this with the addition of Lemahieu and seeing some serious strides with Gleyber and Judge. But when you're relying on 3 guys in a lineup of 9 and the other 6 are literally killing your team, a change is needed. We added Stanton two years ago and while he is an upgrade, his health issues this year raise the most important question of, why the ever-living f*** are we playing with only 24 guys for the hope he is ready for the world series? Lots of questions. No real good answers. But the biggest question as roster construction goes is, why do we continue to fall short with the starting pitching. Yes, we went out and got Paxton. He was good, but he wasn't an ace beforehand, he isn't an ace now. His injury issues cropped up again and he is clearly hurt right now (dealt with sciatica to end the regular season campaign). Sevy battled back from injury, but he's a 4 inning pitcher this season. I expect more next year. German beat his girlfriend, otherwise he'd be our 4th starter in the POs. We have a lot of potential in the rotation, but potential only gets you so far. We need a lock down ace. Lots of people on here killed Cashman for not getting Corbin. Corbin was very good for the Nats this year, but his 7+ ERA in the playoffs this year doesn't make him look like a savior either. People killed him for not getting Greinke, but Greinke isn't a post season ace either and he had a no trade with NYY, so we couldn't get him. Where we really fell off the map was not getting Scherzer when he was available. For not getting in on a real, top tier ace. Well, that time has come. Cole and Strasburg will hit the open market. Both are aces. Both are dominant with the chips on the line. We need to get one of them. No question, no jumping out of the way of this. One of them must be on our roster come 2020. How feasible is that financially?

 

Well, if Chapman opts out and we keep the entire team intact (unlikely), we will have $192 mil on the books (this includes the arb predictions from mlbtraderumors). We would need to find a way to re-up Chapman. No other big time closers are on the list. While I doubt Chap gets $18 mil AAV on the open market, I do think he can get more years. Maybe we tack on 2 yrs and $28 mil onto his current deal and make it a 4 yr $64 mil deal and call it a day. Drop his AAV to $16 mil and leave us right at the first lux tax limit. This would leave us with $40 mil to play with. I move all my chips to the center and use as much of the $40 mil as I need to get Cole. 8 year $260 mil deal? Sign me up. We cannot be outbid. Cole is a strange cat, though. This is the same guy who professed his love for the Yankees enough for them to draft him in the 1st round only for him to say he was going to school. He is a SoCal guy and the Angels need an ace. Do they make the commitment? Who knows. But we need to be the top dollar offer. If he takes another deal for other reasons, then we cannot do anything about that. Then you turn your attention to Strasburg. His long term deal would be shorter because of the injury history, but he has the better playoff history. Fine, one of them must be leading our rotation for 2020. No questions asked.

 

Then we need to address some of our depth. We let EE walk (TB is actually paying his opt out). Didi, good luck in FA. Brett, great knowing you. We will see JMont return. We will see Andujar return. German will eventually be reinstated. Depth on the team will abound. If we bring back Chappy and sign an ace and bring back everyone else under contract, this would be the club

 

C- Sanchez, Higashioka

1B- Voit, Ford

2B- Lemahieu, Estrada

SS- Torres, Wade

3B- Andujar, Urshela

LF- Tauchman, Frazier

CF- Hicks

RF- Judge

DH- Stanton

 

SP1- Cole or Strasburg

SP2- Severino

SP3- Tanaka

SP4- Paxton

SP5- German, Montgomery, Loaisiga

CL- Chapman

SU- Britton

SU- Ottavino

SU- Kahnle

SU- Green

RP- Cessa, et al

 

Depth will not be a problem for another season, but it might be time to cash in on some of it. Do we package some of these guys together and get another ace. Do we package some of these guys together and get another hitter like Lemahieu. Do we make a drastic deal and send out Sanchez and re-sign Romine. Lots of moving parts here. Lots of options. But going into the season, the three biggest things in order are

 

1. Sign an ace

2. Fire entire strength, conditioning, medical staff

3. Re-sign Chapman

 

That's the start. Hopefully, the offseason can be fended off for a bit, but it isn't looking good at this point. The Astros are just a better team at this juncture

Good post Jack. Granted this series isn’t over. You’re a smart guy and I don’t follow the yanks obviously like you do but I think there might be some over reaction. Houston arguably has the best rotation in baseball. Any guy in their 5 could nearly be an ace for a team. There’s a reason why Houston could honestly build a dynasty here. If it wasn’t for a red hot Sox team Houston may very well be sitting here going for their 3 rd straight title.

 

Yankees took care of business over Minnesota and I feel would have taken care of almost any team in the league. Yankees pitching might add some arms but offensively I don’t think they need touch anything. Do I dare say a manager change? I know it’s crazy after having one of the best records in baseball and making it this far in playoffs but he legit doesn’t spark anything under the team. My girlfriend was watching yesterday and she said the same thing. “They keep showing that manager and all he does is sits there and doesn’t bat an eye” no spark no fire no nothing. Cora is complete opposite contrary to what people say. He motivates players constantly. I won’t sit here and pretend like I know what the Yankees need and don’t need but I think they are a strong baseball team.

 

Oh and by the way. The series isn’t over!!!!!! I know tonight seems impossible but it’s baseball. I still think this series goes the distance.

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Good post Jack. Granted this series isn’t over. You’re a smart guy and I don’t follow the yanks obviously like you do but I think there might be some over reaction. Houston arguably has the best rotation in baseball. Any guy in their 5 could nearly be an ace for a team. There’s a reason why Houston could honestly build a dynasty here. If it wasn’t for a red hot Sox team Houston may very well be sitting here going for their 3 rd straight title.

 

Yankees took care of business over Minnesota and I feel would have taken care of almost any team in the league. Yankees pitching might add some arms but offensively I don’t think they need touch anything. Do I dare say a manager change? I know it’s crazy after having one of the best records in baseball and making it this far in playoffs but he legit doesn’t spark anything under the team. My girlfriend was watching yesterday and she said the same thing. “They keep showing that manager and all he does is sits there and doesn’t bat an eye” no spark no fire no nothing. Cora is complete opposite contrary to what people say. He motivates players constantly. I won’t sit here and pretend like I know what the Yankees need and don’t need but I think they are a strong baseball team.

 

Oh and by the way. The series isn’t over!!!!!! I know tonight seems impossible but it’s baseball. I still think this series goes the distance.

 

The Astros will not win 3 straight. They will likely lose Cole this winter and maybe Springer, soon.

 

They still have some farm talent to keep them up there for a while, but it's damn hard to repeat without getting better each year (or stay the same).

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The rebuild was clearly incomplete.

 

kind of weird to call it "complete" when you have zero starting pitching.

everyone knows pitching = parades.

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kind of weird to call it "complete" when you have zero starting pitching.

everyone knows pitching = parades.

 

Delusions that Tanaka and Sevy would be playoff horses.

 

Happ was due for an age-related steep decline year after beating the odds for so many years.

 

Paxton pitched his predictable 150 innings and then went poof.

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Delusions that Tanaka and Sevy would be playoff horses.

 

Tanaka pitched pretty good this offseason. Even last night I thought he showed a lot of guts hanging in there when it looked like he was about to get the early hook. I don't think he's really the problem.

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Tanaka pitched pretty good this offseason. Even last night I thought he showed a lot of guts hanging in there when it looked like he was about to get the early hook. I don't think he's really the problem.

 

Yes, he did, but expecting him and others to do well was a pipe dream from day one of the season.

 

More shocking was no moves were made to get a SP'er during the season, when the whole world could see the massive hole in the roster.

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Yes, he did, but expecting him and others to do well was a pipe dream from day one of the season.

 

More shocking was no moves were made to get a SP'er during the season, when the whole world could see the massive hole in the roster.

 

Yeah, I think that if the Yankees lose this series that's what Cashman will take a lot of heat for.

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The Astros will not win 3 straight. They will likely lose Cole this winter and maybe Springer, soon.

 

They still have some farm talent to keep them up there for a while, but it's damn hard to repeat without getting better each year (or stay the same).

 

Ya agreed, was more less just saying the Astros have a very talented team. No shame in losing to them.

 

I mean we wouldn't know, we beat them but you know lol.

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time to change your signature line.

1 game away from having to blow it all up and try again.

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LOL, that's cold.

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Yeah, I think that if the Yankees lose this series that's what Cashman will take a lot of heat for.

 

Cashman needs to take heat for not getting a top tier starter. Paxton’s injury issues make him a 3. Tanaka may be a 1 in the POs, but with his reg season production being more a #3, the chances remain that he falls back to that like he did last night. Sevy is our only guy with ace like ability, but he was hurt all year and in the years he wasn’t hurt, he’s been a late season swoon guy. We need a guy who can go wire to wire leading a rotation, which will take pressure off the rest of the promising rotation. Nothing damages potential like expectations.

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The Yankees aren't going to have a Red Sox payroll dude. No chance we sign Cole or Stras. I think Chapman opts out and he's gone.

 

QO to Chapman and Didi.

Romine, Edwin, Gardner, Maybin, Gearrin are gone.

 

Resign Dellin to a one year 4 million deal with extra 4 mill in strikeout bonuses.

 

Try to find a taker for Happ, but no one will want him, so he's ours.

 

C: Sanchez/Higgy

1B: Voit/Ford

2B: DJ

SS: Torres

3B: Gio/Andujar

UTL Estrada or Wade

 

OF: Judge, Hicks, Fraizer

Bench Tauchman

DH: Stanton.

 

Like you said already.

 

SP

Sevy

German

Paxton

Tanaka

Monty/Happ

 

Britton

Dellin

Otto

Kahnle

Green

Cessa

Loaisiga

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Fire Cashman and hire Dave Dombrowski. As weird as that sounds, Henry was brilliant in seeing that the Red Sox needed to hire Dombrowski to win another title. It worked to the tune of 119 wins--the 2018 Red Sox were one of the greatest teams in MLB history. They completely dominated in the regular season and in the postseason, kicking the crap out of the Yankees, Astros, and Dodgers. Henry was also brilliant in seeing that Dombrowski was not the right guy to take the organization forward.

 

Considering where the Yankees are right now, they need Dombrowski, a guy who can come in and put the final pieces in place for a championship. Cashman has proven time and time again that he can't do the job.

 

Let's compare some moves. The Astros outmaneuvered Cashman when they acquired Verlander. The Astros outmaneuvered Cashman when they acquired Cole. Dombrowski outmaneuvered Cashman when he acquired Eovaldi and Pearce. The Astros outmaneuvered Cashman when they acquired Grienke. Who did the Yankees acquire during the 2019 season? E.Encarncion, who went 1 for 18 in the ALCS.

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As far as Cole and Strasburg go, they are exactly what the Yankees need. Cole is from Southern California. I'm expecting the Angels to go after him, but I ultimately believe the Dodgers will sign him. The Dodgers are even more desperate than the Yankees.
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As far as Cole and Strasburg go, they are exactly what the Yankees need. Cole is from Southern California. I'm expecting the Angels to go after him, but I ultimately believe the Dodgers will sign him. The Dodgers are even more desperate than the Yankees.

 

I could see Stasburg to NYY & Cole to LAD.

 

All the more reason for the Sox to reset and trade Betts & JD this winter.

 

Let the 3 teams burn themselves out in 2020.

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I could see Stasburg to NYY & Cole to LAD.

 

All the more reason for the Sox to reset and trade Betts & JD this winter.

 

Let the 3 teams burn themselves out in 2020.

 

I'm starting to believe that a one or two year rebuild would be the best long term strategy for the Red Sox. Not a complete rebuild and tear down, but get under the cap, strengthen the farm system, and look to compete again in 2022.

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I'm starting to believe that a one or two year rebuild would be the best long term strategy for the Red Sox. Not a complete rebuild and tear down, but get under the cap, strengthen the farm system, and look to compete again in 2022.

 

Too hard to say what we will look like next year. I know we have a lot of experts on this board that think Sale is toast, but maybe Sale comes back and is a dominant Ace, Price pitches to his capability and stays healthy, Eovaldi pitches good. All the sudden we are competing for the division and no need for a rebuild. We still have so many weapons from our World Series year that it makes it hard for me to say let’s rebuild. But time will tell.

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I'm starting to believe that a one or two year rebuild would be the best long term strategy for the Red Sox. Not a complete rebuild and tear down, but get under the cap, strengthen the farm system, and look to compete again in 2022.

 

I'm thinking 2 years is not unrealistic. To me, it's all about JD & Betts.

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Cashman isn’t getting fired. Let’s just throw that out there.

 

Also, if the Yanks aren’t willing to go to the final threshold then I’ll question their willingness to win. They spent a lot this past offseason and with the guys coming off the payroll, they have the cash to upgrade the rotation. Like I said before, we have a ton of potential in our rotation.

 

Sevy has two straight top 10 CY finishes prior to this year. This year he’s misdiagnosed (common theme this year) with a rotator cuff issue when it was actually a lat issue and he essentially misses the whole year. His issue is that when he’s healthy, he fades late. We need an ace who can continue on to the playoffs. Sevy could become that, but he also could continue to be a great regular season pitcher who fades forever like a Chris Sale

 

Montgomery had a near 3 WAR season as a rookie. He’s not a top guy, but could certainly be a Keuchel LF now type with a good K rate. He’s not the guy to lead a rotation, though

 

Paxton has the stuff to be an ace, but not the durability. He showed me something in what turned out to be his final performance, but he’s continually injury prone and if he’s feeling something come playoff time, he won’t be what we need.

 

Tanaka is the only one who excels in the POs. But he’s a liability for a few months a year in the regular season leading to being okay, not leading a rotation

 

German has great stuff. His production was pretty good, but he got great run support. He’s got ace stuff, but he’s also a f***ing moron socially and I’m not sure if he’s ticketed out of town for a fresh start. If he’s in a Yankee uniform, he’s gonna be in the rotation. Can he take a step forward, who knows.

 

We have a pretty good 5 man rotation. Happ as the 6 is better than nothing. But this rotation, while good and with our offense, is pretty solid, it’s overshadowed in the playoffs. If Cole comes available (meaning he doesn’t outright say he’s going to LA) and we don’t over bid, I’ll be shocked. We need an ace to lead the way. As a matter of fact, I bet if we get Cole or Strasburg, the entire rotation will benefit. We have to go for them

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Cashman isn’t getting fired. Let’s just throw that out there.

 

Also, if the Yanks aren’t willing to go to the final threshold then I’ll question their willingness to win. They spent a lot this past offseason and with the guys coming off the payroll, they have the cash to upgrade the rotation. Like I said before, we have a ton of potential in our rotation.

 

Sevy has two straight top 10 CY finishes prior to this year. This year he’s misdiagnosed (common theme this year) with a rotator cuff issue when it was actually a lat issue and he essentially misses the whole year. His issue is that when he’s healthy, he fades late. We need an ace who can continue on to the playoffs. Sevy could become that, but he also could continue to be a great regular season pitcher who fades forever like a Chris Sale

 

Montgomery had a near 3 WAR season as a rookie. He’s not a top guy, but could certainly be a Keuchel LF now type with a good K rate. He’s not the guy to lead a rotation, though

 

Paxton has the stuff to be an ace, but not the durability. He showed me something in what turned out to be his final performance, but he’s continually injury prone and if he’s feeling something come playoff time, he won’t be what we need.

 

Tanaka is the only one who excels in the POs. But he’s a liability for a few months a year in the regular season leading to being okay, not leading a rotation

 

German has great stuff. His production was pretty good, but he got great run support. He’s got ace stuff, but he’s also a f***ing moron socially and I’m not sure if he’s ticketed out of town for a fresh start. If he’s in a Yankee uniform, he’s gonna be in the rotation. Can he take a step forward, who knows.

 

We have a pretty good 5 man rotation. Happ as the 6 is better than nothing. But this rotation, while good and with our offense, is pretty solid, it’s overshadowed in the playoffs. If Cole comes available (meaning he doesn’t outright say he’s going to LA) and we don’t over bid, I’ll be shocked. We need an ace to lead the way. As a matter of fact, I bet if we get Cole or Strasburg, the entire rotation will benefit. We have to go for them

 

And this series was closer than anyone will ever know who didn’t watch the actual games. Yankees tied it and had they pulled it off I think they win that series even against Cole. Just too much momentum after winning 2 straight against the Astros in my opinion. Hard to shut something like that down. I don’t think the Yankees need to make too much drastic changes, but it is common for fans to want change after losing in the playoffs no matter how close they come to the World Series. I do also think whoever won this wins the World Series. I like Washington and hope they pull it off against Houston but I think they lost in 5 or 6 tops. Yankees have a lot of potential and will compete again next year. Maybe Boone will actually change his approach and light a spark under his team rather than be dead weight. Not saying he isn’t doing that off cameras but regardless.

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We have plenty of potential. I don’t disagree there. But nothing blunts potential like expectations. If Sevy is to grow into an ace role, if German can be a decent human and keep his HR’s down, if Montgomery can be healthy and find a touch better command, if Tanaka can do what he does in the postseason all the time, if Paxton can stay healthy then this rotation takes the next step. But in order to do all of that or even some of it, we need a face of the rotation. That’s what getting CC in 09 was. Our rotation was led by CC. Didn’t matter that we had Pettitte and Burnett behind him, CC was THE guy. He was our stopped, our ace, our everything. With the current core of starters, we don’t have that. There is no stopped. It’s very “Next Man Up” style, but it doesn’t help in the playoffs against a juggernaut. I’m taking nothing away from the Astros. They were world champion level and added a future HOFer still pitching great. So they stacked their deck and kudos for going after it. But they’re gonna start to fall this offseason and with their fall will be our chance to rise. We need someone to lead that rotation in order to take that next step
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We have plenty of potential. I don’t disagree there. But nothing blunts potential like expectations. If Sevy is to grow into an ace role, if German can be a decent human and keep his HR’s down, if Montgomery can be healthy and find a touch better command, if Tanaka can do what he does in the postseason all the time, if Paxton can stay healthy then this rotation takes the next step. But in order to do all of that or even some of it, we need a face of the rotation. That’s what getting CC in 09 was. Our rotation was led by CC. Didn’t matter that we had Pettitte and Burnett behind him, CC was THE guy. He was our stopped, our ace, our everything. With the current core of starters, we don’t have that. There is no stopped. It’s very “Next Man Up” style, but it doesn’t help in the playoffs against a juggernaut. I’m taking nothing away from the Astros. They were world champion level and added a future HOFer still pitching great. So they stacked their deck and kudos for going after it. But they’re gonna start to fall this offseason and with their fall will be our chance to rise. We need someone to lead that rotation in order to take that next step

 

Well said I agree. It will be interesting to see the moves the Yankees make if they do at all. Curious what the management and ownership think of the team right now. Pretty much a game away in my opinion from winning it all. I still think they beat anyone in the league if they get past last night.

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