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Ya I don’t have anything against the guy at all. And he definitely can deliver a great game. I wish he was just a bit more consistent at times. He has never wowed me as a guy we need to keep. But with that said and his contract I’m happy he’s apart of the rotation right now.

 

He's our cheapest SP'er- by far.

 

He has nasty stuff. He's been inconsistent, but I'm sticking with him.

 

 

Overall I think he’s tradable and actually capable of getting something key, but potentially replaceable. Plus playing in Fenway, this team might need to get less left-handed...

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Overall I think he’s tradable and actually capable of getting something key, but potentially replaceable. Plus playing in Fenway, this team might need to get less left-handed...

 

Winning a World Series should definitely grade him a bit higher by other teams. He hasn’t been overly great this season however. The one plus is he is only 25 (or 26) so he is still young and can probably negotiate a decent contract with a team. He might even get a bit more consistent with age? I dunno.

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Winning a World Series should definitely grade him a bit higher by other teams. He hasn’t been overly great this season however. The one plus is he is only 25 (or 26) so he is still young and can probably negotiate a decent contract with a team. He might even get a bit more consistent with age? I dunno.

 

ERod is 26, has 2 years of control left, and makes an affordable $4.3mill this year. He could be dealt to fill a hole or two and would have some appeal to nearly every team...

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ERod is 26, has 2 years of control left, and makes an affordable $4.3mill this year. He could be dealt to fill a hole or two and would have some appeal to nearly every team...

Maybe he can just swap places with Stroman for us lol. I would take it!

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Maybe he can just swap places with Stroman for us lol. I would take it!

 

ERod has a lower xFIP than Stroman.

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ERod has a lower xFIP than Stroman.

 

 

And despite ERod’s propensity for getting hurt, he’s still the more durable of the two...

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And despite ERod’s propensity for getting hurt, he’s still the more durable of the two...

 

...and Eovaldi, too.

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ERod has a lower xFIP than Stroman.

 

Ya fair enough, Stroman is wildly inconsistent at the best of times as well. He was atrocious last year if I recall and he was excellent the year before..... He has been pretty solid for the Jays this year.

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ERod is 26, has 2 years of control left, and makes an affordable $4.3mill this year. He could be dealt to fill a hole or two and would have some appeal to nearly every team...

 

Exactamundo Notin !!!

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Ya fair enough, Stroman is wildly inconsistent at the best of times as well. He was atrocious last year if I recall and he was excellent the year before..... He has been pretty solid for the Jays this year.

 

He had a better xFIP last year than this year. Expect regression at some point.

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Glad you're having fun with the cut this guy, trade this guy s***.

 

Thanks it means everything to me that you noticed .I would trade EROD and keep Rick its an opinion no more no less but some think there opinion is worth a lot more and that's fine.

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E-Rod isn't getting traded. We've got enough expensive stars as it is.

 

 

If he does, it will be in December...

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If he does, it will be in December...

 

To trade a competent, affordable starting pitcher with some upside, you would need a REALLY good reason. Like acquiring a better starting pitcher.

 

Can't really see it happening at all.

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To trade a competent, affordable starting pitcher with some upside, you would need a REALLY good reason. Like acquiring a better starting pitcher.

 

Can't really see it happening at all.

 

Can you see it with a competent affordable starting third baseman?

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Don't talk in riddles now. Specifics please.

 

 

Too early? Sorry.

 

I’m referring to his dealing of Travis Shaw. This wouldn’t be new territory for DD.

 

It will obviously depend on what other decisions are made. Like who plays where in the infield and do the Sox need any other players. Do they need someone or go with Devers/Chavis/Bogaerts/Dalbec? Or do they non/tender Bradley? Or possibly the unlikeliest scenario of all where Martinez opts out and DD decides to not pursue bringing him back.

 

But if they need some trade bait, ERod is certainly an option, especially if they bring back Porcello...

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Would love to have Travis Shaw at 3b for the 2019 Sox! What a great player! Numbers are off the charts.
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Would love to have Travis Shaw at 3b for the 2019 Sox! What a great player! Numbers are off the charts.

 

 

Even including his miserable 2019 season, the man still has a 112 OPS+ since going to Milwaukee...

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Too early? Sorry.

 

I’m referring to his dealing of Travis Shaw. This wouldn’t be new territory for DD.

 

Trading a starting pitcher is a little different though IMO

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Trading a starting pitcher is a little different though IMO

 

Yes and no.

 

Bottom line is this off-season, DD might be forced to use trades to fill gaps. He certainly has a rep for dealing prospects (and I’m starting to question how much of an illusion Jarran Duran is), and that type of move will certainly come into play.

 

But if the Sox do decide they want to keep Porcello and maybe like Shawaryn, ERod does become a trade candidate, and maybe even a good one. A lot has to fall into place for this to play out, of course...

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Double AA for Duran a better league to see if Duran is an illusion. High A wasn't to get a good evaluation since he didn't have a problem there. He'll probably be in Portland rest of year, unless he tears that up too. Edited by OH FOY!
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Double AA for Duran a better league to see if Duran is an illusion. High A wasn't to get a good evaluation since he didn't have a problem there. He'll probably be in Portland rest of year, unless he tears that up too.

 

The promotion makes sense. But his BABIP in A-ball is a reason for cautious optimism...

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Many Minor League Fields are a lot like Oakland. Have you been to Pawtucket? Reason why their Pitching Prospects are illusions. I bet the Foul Ground there is even bigger then Oakland or close. Edited by OH FOY!
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Even including his miserable 2019 season, the man still has a 112 OPS+ since going to Milwaukee...

 

going to Milwaukee was the key to any successes that Travis Shaw has had. he would not have those numbers in Boston. IMO.

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going to Milwaukee was the key to any successes that Travis Shaw has had. he would not have those numbers in Boston. IMO.

 

Well, OPS+ does take ballpark into account.

 

Shaw’s OPS is .812 in that stretch. Andrew Benintendi has an OPS+ of 111 and an OPS of .798 in that same timeframe, if you need a point of reference...

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it's not the dimensions of the ballpark that i was talking about. it was the pressure of Boston. i know you dont agree with this at all but it is my opinion and i truly believe it. some players can handle big market/bright lights/media pressure and some players are much better off playing in the milwaukees and san diegos of the world....
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it's not the dimensions of the ballpark that i was talking about. it was the pressure of Boston. i know you dont agree with this at all but it is my opinion and i truly believe it. some players can handle big market/bright lights/media pressure and some players are much better off playing in the milwaukees and san diegos of the world....

 

I don't disagree, but sometimes I think it is overblown. Some players are labelled non spot light players after a very short sample size- often very early in the player's career, and they never get a chance to prove otherwise.

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