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I don't know if those 11 games were played in 11 days by the Twins. I posted this games ago, but MLB really went out of their way to make it tough for the SOX to repeat. However, there is no excuse for this level of s*** baseball by this well-paid team.

 

Notice the Yanks got a nice six game homestand to start, then three in Baltimore. Sure it's just coincidence, though.

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Notice the Yanks got a nice six game homestand to start, then three in Baltimore. Sure it's just coincidence, though.

 

The Joe Torre Factor...

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Well I expect the everyday players to snap out of it before the pitchers do. To me the everyday players just got caught reading last year's press clippings and expecting to win games by just flopping their mitts out onto the field....NOT!

 

The pitchers ....the way they are throwing...you just don't know. Will they have gotten enough work in by Fenway Opening day? That will be the start of the 3rd time through the rotation for them. Will it have been enough work by then? After their first starts, I did not expect much out of their 2nd starts and now I am not at all sure about their 3rd starts. Sale might just say f*** This...I don't care about the plan. IMO he will throw 93-94-95 again when he wants to do so and insists on being allowed to do so. I think Price is fine. Right now I would not give you ten cents for the rest of them.

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I've never heard of a three game series starting on Thursday with the Friday off. That's just bizarre.

 

I guess in Baltimore it doesn't matter. They get as many patrons on a Thursday as they do on a Friday.

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Well I expect the everyday players to snap out of it before the pitchers do. To me the everyday players just got caught reading last year's press clippings and expecting to win games by just flopping their mitts out onto the field....NOT!

 

The pitchers ....the way they are throwing...you just don't know. Will they have gotten enough work in by Fenway Opening day? That will be the start of the 3rd time through the rotation for them. Will it have been enough work by then? After their first starts, I did not expect much out of their 2nd starts and now I am not at all sure about their 3rd starts. Sale might just say f*** This...I don't care about the plan. IMO he will throw 93-94-95 again when he wants to do so and insists on being allowed to do so. I think Price is fine. Right now I would not give you ten cents for the rest of them.

 

When the team is playing this bad right out of the gate, haven't you got to look at Cora? I don't mean fire him this season or anything, but isn't he ultimately responsible?

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I don't know if those 11 games were played in 11 days by the Twins. I posted this games ago, but MLB really went out of their way to make it tough for the SOX to repeat. However, there is no excuse for this level of s*** baseball by this well-paid team.

 

 

The 1980 Twins actually started the year with 12 road games on the west coast PLAYED OVER ELEVEN DAYS!!!

 

Not only did they give the 1980 Twins a 3 city west coast road trip of 12 games to start the season, but they threw in a double header. Also, they were only fed bread and water.

 

The Twins went 5-7 on that road trip and finished the season 75-86...

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When the team is playing this bad right out of the gate, haven't you got to look at Cora? I don't mean fire him this season or anything, but isn't he ultimately responsible?

 

 

Definitely, although Dombrowski is culpable as well...

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I've never heard of a three game series starting on Thursday with the Friday off. That's just bizarre.

In recent years home openers in inclimate regions have been scheduled with the following day off to accommodate a rescheduled game postponed by weather. Several teams are off this Friday for that reason. The White Sox home opener, rained out on Thursday, was played Friday.

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The 1980 Twins actually started the year with 12 road games on the west coast PLAYED OVER ELEVEN DAYS!!!

 

Not only did they give the 1980 Twins a 3 city west coast road trip of 12 games to start the season, but they threw in a double header. Also, they were only fed bread and water.

 

The Twins went 5-7 on that road trip and finished the season 75-86...

 

And the Twins didn't win the WS in 1979. They weren't even in it.

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In recent years home openers in inclimate regions have been scheduled with the following day off to accommodate a rescheduled game postponed by weather. Several teams are off this Friday for that reason. The White Sox home opener, rained out on Thursday, was played Friday.

 

I know they do that, but having it so a Friday is an off day still seems screwy to me.

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Funny how AZ came into the game with the worst team ERA in the majors and shut the mighty Sox offense down.

 

 

Is it really even unexpected?

 

Aaron Brooks has spent years trying to stay in the majors for more than two weeks, and he shut out the Sox offense for 6 innings...

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Maybe a nefarious conspiracy (because MLB of course WANTS to RS to fail!). But my understanding is that athletes in all prof. sports hate cross-country flights and (for East Coast teams) the inevitable west-coast trip. I'm pretty sure if you asked the players about this year's schedule, they would have been glad to see so much of their west coast schedule out of the way early. (Now, of course, their testimony will be worthless.)
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When the team is playing this bad right out of the gate, haven't you got to look at Cora? I don't mean fire him this season or anything, but isn't he ultimately responsible?

 

Well Cora has been very defensive about this thing about slow rolling the rotation. I mean he was jumping out of his chair after the 4th game of the season vs. very very very mild questioning from the assembled media.

 

Repeating is so hard especially in contemporary MLB. This has obviously not worked out early and they are truly digging a hole. But its easy to say, this ain't workin' NOW. Heck I am guilty of it.

 

This team is dealing with a lotta' stuff. Mookie is now league MVP, GG RFer and team leader of the WS champs. JBJ has his first GG. ALCS MVP and is the CFer for the WS champs. Devers probably thinks this is all just fun and waaaaaaay easy (boy is he wrong). X has his new contract. There is a lot for this team to work through. In retrospect, if anything I might have determined if Cora that the everyday players were likely to not handle all this stuff well early in the season and in spite of trying to extend the rotation into the post season, I might have worked them harder figuring pitching had to carry us through these early games. But there I go again, Monday morning QBing. I don't think the same things are effecting both the everyday players and the pitching staff. But if Cora can be criticized IMO it is in not calculating that the pitching staff was going to have to carry them early....until the everyday players got sorted out.

 

I tend to think that if Cora went after the everyday players hard as a means to try to prevent this, he would have been met by a stone wall as that was not his style all last year and its just hard to deal with these millionaire baseball players.

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Well Cora has been very defensive about this thing about slow rolling the rotation. I mean he was jumping out of his chair after the 4th game of the season vs. very very very mild questioning from the assembled media.

 

Repeating is so hard especially in contemporary MLB. This has obviously not worked out early and they are truly digging a hole. But its easy to say, this ain't workin' NOW. Heck I am guilty of it.

 

This team is dealing with a lotta' stuff. Mookie is now league MVP, GG RFer and team leader of the WS champs. JBJ has his first GG. ALCS MVP and is the CFer for the WS champs. Devers probably thinks this is all just fun and waaaaaaay easy (boy is he wrong). X has his new contract. There is a lot for this team to work through. In retrospect, if anything I might have determined if Cora that the everyday players were likely to not handle all this stuff well early in the season and in spite of trying to extend the rotation into the post season, I might have worked them harder figuring pitching had to carry us through these early games. But there I go again, Monday morning QBing. I don't think the same things are effecting both the everyday players and the pitching staff. But if Cora can be criticized IMO it is in not calculating that the pitching staff was going to have to carry them early....until the everyday players got sorted out.

 

I tend to think that if Cora went after the everyday players hard as a means to try to prevent this, he would have been met by a stone wall as that was not his style all last year and its just hard to deal with these millionaire baseball players.

 

This might bring some anger out. This is past humiliating.

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At least the Celtics are playing well tonight at Indiana. Hayward looks like he is finally back to being the player he was before the injury. Next year he will be a superstar again.
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