Who Should the Red Sox Trade For?

[mvp 78]

@jonmorosi

 

In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

 

meh

[dgalehouse]

I think it might be unwise to look at postseason needs as higher priority than in-season needs. The top priority now is avoiding the wild card scenario.

 

A lot of these “ham and egger” types you disparage are actually capable of being difference makers, and it is happening now for some teams. But even if they are it capable of being one, being better than Johnson or Velasquez itself makes it worthwhile.

 

And even if a fifth starter isn’t needed on the postseason, the Sox are scraping together fourth starter options as we type. Sure maybe Pomerania or Rodriguez or Wright can come back at full strength. But what if they don’t? Are you satisfied with Johnson or whoever starting game 4 in a best of 7? Or possibly game 3 (and 7?) if the Sox rotation is set by using Sale in a WC game?

 

Maybe I am a little too confident , but I think the Division is ours for the taking. I do not see the Yankees making a run. Looking ahead to the post season. And having a deep bullpen gives you the ability to have a quick hook for your fourth starter in the one game that he would pitch in a playoff series. To me , a top bullpen arm , like Britton , is more important than a run of the mill fifth starter.

[Bellhorn04]

@jonmorosi

 

In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

 

meh

 

Mehyuck.

[S5Dewey]

@jonmorosi

 

In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

 

meh

 

I'm not surprised that Jeter would want more than Chavis or Groome to make the Sox even more formidable for the Yankees.

[Carbo-Diem]

@jonmorosi

 

In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

 

meh

 

In future news, Drew Steckenrider has been traded to the yankees for a low A ball player to be named later. In order to maximize the return for the PTBNL, the Marlins will include some international bonus money.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Carbo-Diem

[Slasher9]

Cashman made a comment about a week ago that he thinks that the Yankees deep farm system is hurting the Yankees in trade talks. Either the other teams are asking for too much because they know Cash has the pieces to deal, or Cash thinks the other teams are asking for too much because Cash is overvaluing his pieces.

 

Either way, it sounds like Cash is not willing to 'overpay' to fill his needs.

sounds like a case of the "Bens"

[notin]

Maybe I am a little too confident , but I think the Division is ours for the taking. I do not see the Yankees making a run. Looking ahead to the post season. And having a deep bullpen gives you the ability to have a quick hook for your fourth starter in the one game that he would pitch in a playoff series. To me , a top bullpen arm , like Britton , is more important than a run of the mill fifth starter.

 

I never take anything for granted. After Sale, Price and Porcello, the rotation is injured and lacks depth. I don't want Brian Johnson starting a game 7.

 

And really, if the Sox can get an innings eater type, he can make the bullpen the Sox have that much more effective. I actually - and I can't believe I'm saying this either - thik James Shields might be a good pickup. Especially if the Sox can get him and still have a resource or two left to acquire a bullpen arm. It doesn't need to be Zach Britton. I'm ok with whoever the Sox think can be this year's Addison Reed...

 

A 2B would be nice, too. But I think Holt and Nunez will be playing there the remainder of the year....

[notin]

@jonmorosi

 

In preliminary #RedSox-#Marlins trade talks, source says Miami indicated that Michael Chavis or Jay Groome alone would not be sufficient to acquire setup man Drew Steckenrider. That is one snapshot of the market value for controllable relievers. @MLB @MLBNetwork

 

meh

 

But somehow we have enough for Britton?

[Bellhorn04]

But somehow we have enough for Britton?

 

No, we don't. Britton was a pipe dream, that's obvious now.

[oldtimer]

But somehow we have enough for Britton?

 

Our needs are fairly clear and the priorities may be a little mulled by not knowing the status of E-Rod and Pedroia.

 

Our ability to make even one trade is quite limited with personnel and our ability to absorb contracts. I don't expect us to outbid the several competing clubs for big named talent and certainly not for club controlled talent. Best hope is for a rental second tier reliever and/or possibly a rental infielder. Talk has been around about the same in an outfielder but I can't see that aas a pressing need.

 

I am not expecting meaningful trades this year unless we can pick up and turn around underappreciated talent. I we do make some, then I will be pleased but surprised..

[Jack Flap]

But somehow we have enough for Britton?

 

Steckenwhatever, while less of an established name, is controlled through 2023, whereas Britton is a rental. I have my doubts we land Britton either, but the prices shouldn't be comparable.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Jack Flap

[S5Dewey]

Do you really think that Derek Jeter is going to trade a player with a big potential upside to the Red Sox without bending the Sox over a barrel and giving it to them DRY? This is the same Derek Jeter who will always bleed Yankee pinstripes.

[dgalehouse]

A shame. Some posters could have had a lot of fun with the name " Drew Steckenrider " if he had blown a lead or two.

[Spudboy]

No, we don't. Britton was a pipe dream, that's obvious now.

 

In any case the question is not who do we trade for.

 

The question is how much over the 237 cap is Henry really willing to go?

 

If he says f*** it, lets get the best pieces to help us now and maybe for next season and beyond, we could see anyone.

 

The dearth of desirable prospects in our system may seem daunting. But if a team has a player that the want to unload for money reasons look out.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

A shame. Some posters could have had a lot of fun with the name " Drew Steckenrider " if he had blown a lead or two.

 

Well, his name does have 'DREW' in it.

[Bellhorn04]

A shame. Some posters could have had a lot of fun with the name " Drew Steckenrider " if he had blown a lead or two.

 

Stinkinrider for starters.

[jacksonianmarch]

This is posturing. If the deadline comes and the Marlins get the opportunity to get Groome or Chavis plus for a reliever, you do it.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I would offer Dallbec and Beeks for Wheeler. What a bargain for the Mets!

[d-money]

If the skankees get britton i am curious to see how dembrowski answers the move.

[Carbo-Diem]

Do you really think that Derek Jeter is going to trade a player with a big potential upside to the Red Sox without bending the Sox over a barrel and giving it to them DRY? This is the same Derek Jeter who will always bleed Yankee pinstripes.

 

I have a prostate biopsy tomorrow and your post is giving me second thoughts.

[jacksonianmarch]

Dombrowski cannot get into a game of tit for tat with NYY. He doesn’t have the prospect firepower to do it. He needs to focus on his squad. I think Dombrowski gets a “ham and egger” (stolen from another poster) starting pitcher to stabilize the Pom spot and then they’ll add a reliever. They cannot be playing games with the Yanks should they land an ace

[S5Dewey]

Dombrowski cannot get into a game of tit for tat with NYY. He doesn’t have the prospect firepower to do it. He needs to focus on his squad. I think Dombrowski gets a “ham and egger” (stolen from another poster) starting pitcher to stabilize the Pom spot and then they’ll add a reliever. They cannot be playing games with the Yanks should they land an ace

 

Thanks. The concern here is overwhelming.

[Carbo-Diem]

Looks like cashman dumped three pieces of flotsam on the Orioles for Britton. Cash must have a hypnotizing voice on the phone to get other GM's to fall for his trash.

[jacksonianmarch]

Tate and Carroll are real prospects. Rogers is flotsam

[Carbo-Diem]

Tate and Carroll are real prospects. Rogers is flotsam

 

Thanks for the input but you are a yankee fan and therefore................have no credibility.

[jacksonianmarch]

That’s pretty stupid

[Jasonbay44]

What would Jacko gain from "lying" and saying Tate and Caroll are good prospects? Wouldn't he want his team to rape other teams in deals? I don't think it was bad haul for Orioles.

[vegasbob]

I have a prostate biopsy tomorrow and your post is giving me second thoughts.

 

Good luck with your health, and a GREAT comment ~

[Slasher9]

What would Jacko gain from "lying" and saying Tate and Caroll are good prospects? Wouldn't he want his team to rape other teams in deals? I don't think it was bad haul for Orioles.

 

In all fairness most of us over value our own prospects and poo-poo the other teams prospects....

[jacksonianmarch]

I’m sure we do. But Tate was the fourth pick in the draft for a reason. He’s got heat, he’s got a good breaking ball, he gets tons of grounders and he’s finally learned how to set up hitters and get a good K rate. He’s only been in AA because he missed some time with injury and our AAA’s rotation is stacked.

 

Carroll has a fastball that tops out in the high 90s and a good breaking ball. His command has improved this year. If he can tick up his command just a touch more, he’ll be a setup/closer type in the big leagues.

 

Rogers is a “crafty lefty” type with better than usual velocity for a crafty lefty. He’ll likely end up in the O’s starting rotation, but who knows if he’ll actually translate his middling AAA performance into anything useful in the bigs. He’s the throw in here, but we were probably gonna let him walk in the off-season