The Big Dick Rick thread

[jacksonianmarch]

Porcello has been an enigma since he was selected by the Tigers years ago. A guy with seemingly unlimited potential who had been a middling pitcher for most of his career. The sox go out and get him for Cespedes, extend him before he pitches for them and he dumps all over the place in his first year. When the calls for his ouster were the highest, he spun a majestic season, winning a CY. Last year, with the expectations resuscitated, he threw out another clunker. This year, with all the focus on Mr. Tingles and the fact that Chris Sale needs to be perfect every time out has been the quietly good performance of Porcello. in 2018, Porcello is already worth 1.8WAR, a whole 2WAR above his sub replacement level performance last year. His WHIP is down 0.27 from last year and his HR rate has dropped from 1.68/9IP to 0.78/9IP. Looking at his splits, Porcello got off to a hot start, cooled off, then had another hot start to June.

 

March/April- 4-0 40.1IP 30H 10ER 1HR 4BB 38K 2.23ERA 0.84WHIP 9.5K/BB 0.22HR/9IP

May- 3-2 33.2IP 39H 20ER 5HR 11BB 32K 5.34ERA 1.49WHIP 2.9K/BB 1.33K/BB

June- 1-0 6.1IP 5H 2ER 1HR 2BB 5K 2.84ERA

 

The question I pose to the forum, is which Porcello do you all think he becomes. Is he the 3.65ERA 1.14WHIP guy going forward? Do you think he can replicate his hot March/April/June going forward and help bolster the rotation? Does he nosedive akin to his poor May going forward?

[StephenCurry30]

hes a perfectly acceptable #3 starter behind sale and fornite. his skill set, both as a baseball player, and with his dick size, help this team. hes not amazing, and hes extremely inconsistent, but I think he'll be solid rest of the year. sub 4 era or so, 15-20 wins (probably closer to 20 because of crazy run support he gets).

[moonslav59]

I think he rates to be a pretty decent 3rd starter.

 

We just need Sale and Price to pitch like aces in October.

 

ERod could step it up, if one of the big three struggle.

 

Wright should be in the pen for the playoffs, unless someone is hurt.

[Station 13]

Porcello is extremely underrated. He is on pace for his third straight 200IP season.

[moonslav59]

Porcello is extremely underrated. He is on pace for his third straight 200IP season.

 

...and 27+ starts every season since he came up at age 20.

[Bellhorn04]

Durable Dick

[MADSTORK]

Porcello is extremely underrated. He is on pace for his third straight 200IP season.

 

 

Not to mention his post season career in Boston. 7.1 IP 11 H 7ER 3BB Priceless!

[Bellhorn04]

Not to mention his post season career in Boston. 7.1 IP 11 H 7ER 3BB Priceless!

 

You are indeed an idiot.

[notin]

He caused his own problems today. For all of his terrific control, he walked 3 hitters today. Two of them scored, the third drove in a run...

[Spudboy]

You are indeed an idiot.

 

I'm laughing hard.

 

Where is my grinder?

[oldtimer]

He caused his own problems today. For all of his terrific control, he walked 3 hitters today. Two of them scored, the third drove in a run...

 

Had a double play been turned on a tailor made ground ball he would have been out of the inning where he walked some. The team seemed not to have a lot of energy today. Lots of play attempts were poorly made. He gave up 3 runs and at least one of them was due to misplays in the field.

[MADSTORK]

You are indeed an idiot.

 

Take off your pink hat for a moment and answer this ? truthfully with why or why not.

 

"If you could trade Porcello at the deadline to clear a portion of the 18 salary and clear 21 million in 19 payroll for a chance to sign (or obtain another Starter by trade) Kershaw (opt out) Bumgardner (opt out) Kuechel Corbin or GGonzalez would you do it" ?

 

Sale Price ERod as your playoff rotation with cash for the 19 Bonanza.

[jacksonianmarch]

Bumgarner doesn’t have an opt out. Kershaw isn’t opting out since he can’t stay healthy. Porcello’s been better than Keuchel this year. Corbin is having a career year in a walk year. Do you actually read what you post?

[moonslav59]

Look how many WS ans Sper Bowl MVPs go on to sign big contracts and then never reach expectations.

 

Past performance is a few scattered games in October is NOT a predictor of what is to come.

 

Hey, Mad Stork, were you thrilled when we traded for Allen Craig? Mr. Playoffs up to that point?

[cp176]

You are indeed an idiot.

 

My goodness, what has happened to you? lol For the record, of course i agree with you. double lol

[MADSTORK]

Bumgarner doesn’t have an opt out. Kershaw isn’t opting out since he can’t stay healthy. Porcello’s been better than Keuchel this year. Corbin is having a career year in a walk year. Do you actually read what you post?

 

You have no clue if Kershaw will opt out and if he does he will command big smoke injury history or not.

 

MB has 25 million in Team options after 18. SF could very well opt out.

 

Porcello better than DK is a joke right, please tell me your joking. Corbin is a power arm. If the price is reasonable you begin talks...

[jacksonianmarch]

You have no clue if Kershaw will opt out and if he does he will command big smoke injury history or not.

 

MB has 25 million in Team options after 18. SF could very well opt out.

 

Porcello better than DK is a joke right, please tell me your joking. Corbin is a power arm. If the price is reasonable you begin talks...

 

Kershaw hasn't stayed healthy for 2 seasons. He has $65 mil over 2 years ahead of him and if he doesn't put together a healthy end of 2018, he wont opt out.

 

You are a complete idiot if you think the Giants will walk away from Bumgarner

 

Look at the stats between Keuchel and Porcello for this year. Porcello is outpitching him by a LOT. WAR a full 1.0 higher for Rick.

 

Corbin averages 90mph with his fastball. He is the definition of a crafty lefty. He is not a power arm.

 

Do you even know anything about baseball?

[MADSTORK]

Look how many WS ans Sper Bowl MVPs go on to sign big contracts and then never reach expectations.

 

Past performance is a few scattered games in October is NOT a predictor of what is to come.

 

Hey, Mad Stork, were you thrilled when we traded for Allen Craig? Mr. Playoffs up to that point?

 

 

Porcello did not warrant 20 plus million a year contract when Bad Ben traded for him and signed him. A career 4.7 ERA does not warrant that contract. He is not a power arm he relays on location which we have seen, when the going gets rough he is terrible.

Your right, playoff performances should not dictate if a player is traded, re-signed or extended but when there is a track record of the Player being a playoff bust how long you going to wait before you move on?

 

 

Far as Craig he was already damaged goods before the trade. in 14 Cherington wasn't running the Redsox he was running a Circus!

[MADSTORK]

Kershaw hasn't stayed healthy for 2 seasons. He has $65 mil over 2 years ahead of him and if he doesn't put together a healthy end of 2018, he wont opt out.

 

You are a complete idiot if you think the Giants will walk away from Bumgarner

 

Look at the stats between Keuchel and Porcello for this year. Porcello is outpitching him by a LOT. WAR a full 1.0 higher for Rick.

 

Corbin averages 90mph with his fastball. He is the definition of a crafty lefty. He is not a power arm.

 

Do you even know anything about baseball?

 

Don't Rookie me with your insults.

 

Kuechel in 5 playoff series has a 3.2 ERA averaging 7 IP per start and your going to sit there and tell me Porcello is better arm because his stats this year are better... LOL

I'll ask you the same ? You want DK starting a game 7 or Porcello?

 

You have zero clue if any player will or will not opt out.

 

Corbin is averaging 8 SO per nine over his career. Now go back to the kitchen and pour yourself a glass of milk...

[jacksonianmarch]

Don't Rookie me with your insults.

 

Kuechel in 5 playoff series has a 3.2 ERA averaging 7 IP per start and your going to sit there and tell me Porcello is better arm because his stats this year are better... LOL

I'll ask you the same ? You want DK starting a game 7 or Porcello?

 

You have zero clue if any player will or will not opt out.

 

Corbin is averaging 8 SO per nine over his career. Now go back to the kitchen and pour yourself a glass of milk...

 

You're a moron. I have a financial clue if a player will opt out. If Kershaw cannot finish healthy due to a back issue that has recurred for the past 2 seasons, he won't walk away from $65 mil over the next 2 years. He will take that money, pitch those two seasons and if he is healthy, he'll get a massive contract. The Giants aren't letting MadBum walk. I'd take Porcello in the POs this year since Keuchel has looked like a shell of himself. Corbin is striking out a career high while barely sitting above 90mph. He is not a power pitcher like you claim. I am not sure any of your claims lie in reality

[Station 13]

If Porcello didn't get that contract extension, he would be a free agent the year he won his Cy Young. That means we pay a lot more to keep him. Instead he is paid just right and within the window we're competing. I expect many fine years ahead for Porcello.

[harmony]

I miss civil discussion.

[Youk Of The Nation]

You're crapping on Porcello for his bad postseason numbers while simultaneously suggesting a hypothetical trade for Clayton Kershaw? Have you seen Clayton Kershaw pitch in the postseason? It's like that scene in Space Jam when the aliens steal all of the talent from the NBA players.

[S5Dewey]

I miss civil discussion.

 

It shouldn't surprise anyone. What you have here is two Yankees fans arguing with one another. They can't help it. It's cultural.

[Bellhorn04]

It shouldn't surprise anyone. What you have here is two Yankees fans arguing with one another. They can't help it. It's cultural.

 

But if both a Red Sox fan and a Yankee fan think a guy like MADSTORK is a moron, that pretty much makes it official.

[cp176]

But if both a Red Sox fan and a Yankee fan think a guy like MADSTORK is a moron, that pretty much makes it official.

 

but - do two negatives make a positive?

[Bellhorn04]

but - do two negatives make a positive?

 

LOL in this case they do.

[Slasher9]

If Porcello didn't get that contract extension, he would be a free agent the year he won his Cy Young. That means we pay a lot more to keep him. Instead he is paid just right and within the window we're competing. I expect many fine years ahead for Porcello.

 

this right here.

[moonslav59]

Far as Craig he was already damaged goods before the trade. in 14 Cherington wasn't running the Redsox he was running a Circus!

 

So is Kershaw.

 

If you were our GM, it would be a 3 ring circus on Mars.

[FredLynn]

Don't Rookie me with your insults.

 

Kuechel in 5 playoff series has a 3.2 ERA averaging 7 IP per start and your going to sit there and tell me Porcello is better arm because his stats this year are better... LOL

I'll ask you the same ? You want DK starting a game 7 or Porcello?

 

You have zero clue if any player will or will not opt out.

 

Corbin is averaging 8 SO per nine over his career. Now go back to the kitchen and pour yourself a glass of milk...

 

Maybe the Giants will trade Bumgartner for Bradley or Holt plus Pomeranz.

Pour me some of that tea you are drinking......