9/9 vs Rays

[mvp 78]

Sale vs Andriese

[Slasher9]

Bruh...dem doggies gonna get FAT.

Royale w/ cheese x 4

WIN.

[OH FOY]

I think that Yankee loss was big last night. Farrell could (and I would put Sale on a Pitch Count), maybe 80, then out. With an Off-day Monday, he could work the BP.

[Maxbialystock]

I think that Yankee loss was big last night. Farrell could (and I would put Sale on a Pitch Count), maybe 80, then out. With an Off-day Monday, he could work the BP.

 

Meh. You just might be right Farrell could consider that. Sale has struggled in Septembers. But I seriously doubt Sale would stand for it. Way too much of a competitor to allow pampering even for the best of reasons. That said, I'm sure he would not object to Farrell keeping him in his spot in the rotation after an off day, which then give him that very helpful extra day's rest and, over the season, maybe 1 or 2 fewer starts. What happened a couple times (or more) was Farrell moving him up in the rotation after the rest day to keep him on 5 days rest and no more.

 

Using Sale a lot or too much is also driven by the rest of the rotation. Fister has really helped in thaT regard just as much as Porcello (love that new word Porcellos) has not. Pom has improved overall since that game (June 11??) when he complained publicly that Farrell shoulda left him in. ERod looked really good in his last start precisely because he was ready from the get go, mixing his pitches, hitting his spots, not overusing his fastball, etc.

 

Even the hitting is a factor. Early in the season Sale was needed not only because he was our true ace, but also because the hitting was so bad sometimes he needed to get a shutout to keep the game winnable. Remember those early starts when he pitched great and lost?

[OH FOY]

If it was me I'd skip a start. E-Rod inconsistency and doesn't go deep into games. 1 good Start for E-Rod not enough to judge for me. HR hitting team like Tampa good to evaluate Sale, if he's getting tired. When you have a tired arm, Sliders stay flat, and very hittable.

Maybe good idea, to pitch Sale, maybe I'm making too much of it, good game after he just allowed 3 HRS to Yanks.

[a700hitter]

I am hoping that Sale carves up this team like a Thanksgiving Turkey.

[Thunder]

Not sure if I'll be watching this one, but who knows. Win. Dance. Repeat. x4

[TylerD]

Really hope Sale has a good day today. The guy has been so odd for that he better part of the last month and a half. Hope he gets his s*** together.

[Maxbialystock]

If it was me I'd skip a start. E-Rod inconsistency and doesn't go deep into games. 1 good Start for E-Rod not enough to judge for me. HR hitting team like Tampa good to evaluate Sale, if he's getting tired. When you have a tired arm, Sliders stay flat, and very hittable.

Maybe good idea, to pitch Sale, maybe I'm making too much of it, good game after he just allowed 3 HRS to Yanks.

 

Could be right. I cited one lousy game only because of how it happened--he started out great which he rarely, if ever, does. He loves blasting away that fast ball in the first inning, and if it works OK the 2d as well. He seems to eschew smart pitching. Besides, I'm desperate for something good to say about ERod. To me he has pretty good stuff, but only only from the neck down. He is the polar opposite of Fister.

[Maxbialystock]

I am hoping that Sale carves up this team like a Thanksgiving Turkey.

 

As do we all, especially when we know he can do it.

[Maxbialystock]

Could be right. I cited one lousy game only because of how it happened--he started out great which he rarely, if ever, does. He loves blasting away that fast ball in the first inning, and if it works OK the 2d as well. He seems to eschew smart pitching. Besides, I'm desperate for something good to say about ERod. To me he has pretty good stuff, but only only from the neck down. He is the polar opposite of Fister.

 

In fairness to ERod, I have to admit control/command of his pitches, especially the breaking balls and keeping the ball low in the zone (but not all the time) might be the real problem. In that respect, he is not alone. Porcello can't do that, neither can Pom. Heck, there are times when I think Sale can't do it.

[bosoxmal]

If it was me I'd skip a start. E-Rod inconsistency and doesn't go deep into games. 1 good Start for E-Rod not enough to judge for me. HR hitting team like Tampa good to evaluate Sale, if he's getting tired. When you have a tired arm, Sliders stay flat, and very hittable.

Maybe good idea, to pitch Sale, maybe I'm making too much of it, good game after he just allowed 3 HRS to Yanks.

 

Me too. Then 80 piches the start after that. This huy is the key to the entire Playoffs!

[Maxbialystock]

Bosoxmal, I sure hope he isn't. Important, no question. But we got got killed by the Guardians last year because of three lousy starters, not one. They were ones with the deep rotation, remember? This year they are just as deep and can probably withstand an early win by Sale. What's more, they have hit Sale awfully well this year and before this year.

 

Our 2013 WS win was mostly about our great pitching, but even then Lackey was as important as Lester. Lackey was the guy who held the Tigers scoreless against the Tigers and Verlander, who gave up just 1 run. Plus the bullpen was fantastic. Don't forget that in 2013 we still had Papi in his prime which meant good hitting and leading the AL in runs scored. In the postseason we got some very timely hitting, some clutch hitting, but not a whole lot of hitting.

 

Sale can't fix our hitting, and he can't be the totality of our rotation. In fact, it may be in his case that less is more, that Farrell should not want to make him the iron man.

Edited September 9, 2017 by Maxbialystock

[Maxbialystock]

1 Nunez SS

2 Pedroia 2b

3 Benintendi LF

4 Betts RF

5 Moreland 1b

6 Ramirez DH

7 Devers 3B

8 Leon C

9 Bradley CF

 

Against righty Andriese, 5 lefty bats, mostly because Sale likes Leon behind the plate. 3d game with Nunez in for Bogaerts at SS. This time with Pedroia at 2b, Devers at 3b, and HanRam at DH--I mention those three because Nunez could play/hit in place of any of them.

 

Devers and JBJ remain in the bottom of the lineup, but it seems to work. Leon too of course--and all three have lefty bats.

[Kimmi]

Don't let us down Sale!

 

That goes ditto for our offense.

 

WIN!!!

[Jasonbay44]

s***** ump is s*****

[Jasonbay44]

I actually really like this three man booth, I hope they keeps this going forward. Remy and Eck seem to work well together.

 

infinite times better than some of those other dipshits they put in booth.

[Maxbialystock]

I think the ump only took away one strike--a biggie-granted--but it was also right on the lline and not inside that rectangle.

 

Sale has done exactly what Dr Max would have prescribed--mixed his pitches, plenty of changeups and sliders, lots of them low in the zone. But so far the Rays aint nibbling much and to me they are seeing the ball way too well. Thus 23 pitches and a walk and a single. Passed ball by Leon an irritant, but Sale sure didn't show it.

[Maxbialystock]

New rules, it seems. Do not try to stretch singles off the wall. Let's see if Nunez goes.

[Jasonbay44]

Hopefully Nunez is alright. We need him

[Maxbialystock]

Great steal, thereby proving it didn't need to stretch that single. Late and hard slide by Nunez showed determination, hopefully not to much.

[Maxbialystock]

OK, ump off--definite strike on that andriese ball.

[Jasonbay44]

Pedroia! Helluva start!

[Maxbialystock]

OK, if I'm a Yankee fan, I'm getting nervous because my guys can't catch the Sox alone. They need help from the guys they are chasing, and that should mean continued weak hitting except this is now two straight games when the Sox have scored early. Then a blast, caught, by Beni and a hard single by Mookie. Plus now the bulls are running. Edited September 10, 2017 by Maxbialystock

[Jasonbay44]

I love it when Nunez and Mookie do this. They've been creating a lot of scoring opportunities lately with stolen bases

[Maxbialystock]

Mookie is so fast. 3 in the first, just like last night.

[Maxbialystock]

3 run lead. Sale might be a tad more aggressive in the 2d if only to get his pitch count down.

[cp176]

Nunez might be my new hero

[Maxbialystock]

3 run lead. Sale might be a tad more aggressive in the 2d if only to get his pitch count down.

 

Wrong! He stayed with a heavy diet of breaking balls and needed just 10 pitches. This could not be better.

[Maxbialystock]

Devers is hot! If there is a change, it might be he ss happy with just hitting the ball squarely and not whether it's a dinger. I'm not at all sure of that. Just an idle thought.