Farrell

[Maxbialystock]

Nice that you picked the Henry era, since we won 4 titles right before he arrived. LOL

 

What the hell other era is there? The 86 years of frustration? John Henry no doubt has his faults, but he is demonstrably the best owner the Sox have ever had and he is certainly better than the Steinbrenner boys.

[jacksonianmarch]

What the hell other era is there? The 86 years of frustration? John Henry no doubt has his faults, but he is demonstrably the best owner the Sox have ever had and he is certainly better than the Steinbrenner boys.

 

The Steinbrenner boys took over the team in 2008. Since that time, we have:

 

1 WS title

3 ALCS appearances

6 playoff appearances

Never a season under .500

 

And we have a team currently in the playoffs with the arrow pointing straight up from an organizational perspective

 

Since the beginning of 2008 for the sox

1 WS title

2 ALCS appearances

5 playoff appearances

3 last place finishes

 

Your team is at its apex and still title contending

 

The Steinbrenner boys did something their father would not and it will lead to a demonstrably better next decade. He let us rebuild, and it didn't take long

[Bellhorn04]

John Henry no doubt has his faults, but he is demonstrably the best owner the Sox have ever had and he is certainly better than the Steinbrenner boys.

 

Henry is unquestionably the best owner the Sox have ever had. But the Yankees have done well and are still doing well with the Steinbrenner boys.

 

We're ahead of the Yankees in titles since Henry took over and that's something to be proud of. The Yankees look pretty strong going forward though.

[Maxbialystock]

The irony of me now defending Farrell is that just three days ago I was saying it would be understandable if DD fired him after winning the AL East but also lost the ALDS in three straight games. In fact, I even said you can't fire the players.

 

As it is, Farrell managed brilliantly in this postseason when the hitting struggled in the first two games and the rotation was absolutely abysmal in all 4 games and, horror of horrors, his two closers, Kimbrel and Reed, turned out to be erratic. Farrell almost pulled off those 2 wins by using a former starter (soon to be one again next season) and a starter almost everyone on this board thought had given up the ghost after a so-so September. And he pretty much stuck with a lineup that in the last two games started to work if not all the time.

[Maxbialystock]

Henry is unquestionably the best owner the Sox have ever had. But the Yankees have done well and are still doing well with the Steinbrenner boys.

 

We're ahead of the Yankees in titles since Henry took over and that's something to be proud of. The Yankees look pretty strong going forward though.

 

Unfortunately, you do have a point. The Yankees were pretty tough this year with that youngish lineup and a rotation that was up and down.

[jacksonianmarch]

Unfortunately, you do have a point. The Yankees were pretty tough this year with that youngish lineup and a rotation that was up and down.

 

The Yankees 2018 will be better than this one. We are on the up right now and giving the favorites in the AL all they can handle.

[a700hitter]

The irony of me now defending Farrell is that just three days ago I was saying it would be understandable if DD fired him after winning the AL East but also lost the ALDS in three straight games. In fact, I even said you can't fire the players.

 

As it is, Farrell managed brilliantly in this postseason when the hitting struggled in the first two games and the rotation was absolutely abysmal in all 4 games and, horror of horrors, his two closers, Kimbrel and Reed, turned out to be erratic. Farrell almost pulled off those 2 wins by using a former starter (soon to be one again next season) and a starter almost everyone on this board thought had given up the ghost after a so-so September. And he pretty much stuck with a lineup that in the last two games started to work if not all the time.

Benching Devers and Moreland in favor of Marrero and Young was not brilliant.

[Maxbialystock]

Benching Devers and Moreland in favor of Marrero and Young was not brilliant.

 

Who gives a rat's ass? We lost that game 8-2 mostly because start Pom stank and the ERod and Reed also stank. And you are quarreling about the way Farrell arranged the deck chairs. My goodness gracious.

[a700hitter]

Who gives a rat's ass? We lost that game 8-2 mostly because start Pom stank and the ERod and Reed also stank. And you are quarreling about the way Farrell arranged the deck chairs. My goodness gracious.

If it didn't matter what he did, because we weren't going to win anyway, I could live with you saying that, but you said that he managed brilliantly. He did not. Stop it Mrs. Farrell. Your son should have repeated kindergarten. Edited October 10, 2017 by a700hitter

[jacksonianmarch]

If it didn't matter what he did, because we weren't going to win anyway, I could live with you saying that, but you said that he managed brilliantly. He did not. Stop it Mrs. Farrell. Your son should have repeated kindergarten.

 

I was almost going to call him Jess Moran, lol

[Maxbialystock]

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If it didn't matter what he did, because we weren't ho to win anyway, I could live with you saying that, but you said that he managed brilliantly. He did not.

 

He did manage brilliantly. Your complaining he didn't fix a lineup that struggled all year long and ignoring the great job he did with the pitching when all four of his starters stunk and his presumed two best late relievers (Reed and Kimbrel) did too. Plus he's the guy who convinced Price he could contribute from the bullpen, and boy did he. He also brought Sale back at just the right time to darn near save our bacon in game 4 had it not been for Kimbrel's complete malfeasance.

[moonslav59]

Benching Devers and Moreland in favor of Marrero and Young was not brilliant.

 

JF is brilliant!

 

Young had a 1.500 OPS this series!!!!

 

(sarcasm alert)

[Spudboy]

I was almost going to call him Jess Moran, lol

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!1!1!!!!

[moonslav59]

And he pretty much stuck with a lineup that in the last two games started to work if not all the time.

 

He didn't even stick to the line-up that scored 10 runs in game 3.

 

He flipped Pedey and Bogey. Both sucked all series- pretty much.

 

He benched Leon for Vaz.

 

Not sure this was bad, but it wasn't "brilliant".

[User Name]

He did manage brilliantly. Your complaining he didn't fix a lineup that struggled all year long and ignoring the great job he did with the pitching when all four of his starters stunk and his presumed two best late relievers (Reed and Kimbrel) did too. Plus he's the guy who convinced Price he could contribute from the bullpen, and boy did he. He also brought Sale back at just the right time to darn near save our bacon in game 4 had it not been for Kimbrel's complete malfeasance.

 

Did Farrell give you a kidney?

[a700hitter]

He did manage brilliantly. Your complaining he didn't fix a lineup that struggled all year long and ignoring the great job he did with the pitching when all four of his starters stunk and his presumed two best late relievers (Reed and Kimbrel) did too. Plus he's the guy who convinced Price he could contribute from the bullpen, and boy did he. He also brought Sale back at just the right time to darn near save our bacon in game 4 had it not been for Kimbrel's complete malfeasance.

Benching Moreland and Devers in a playoff game for young and Marrero wasn't just not brilliant. It was dumb. Very dumb. What was your blather about fixing the lineup? Marrero and Young were not the solution.

[jacksonianmarch]

Did Farrell give you a kidney?

 

Alright, I spit my water out on this one

[a700hitter]

I don't think Farrell cost us this series, or any game in this series, but his managing can never be termed as brilliant. Heck, our best hitter on the series was slated for the bench if Nunez didn't hurt his knee.

[jacksonianmarch]

I don't think Farrell cost us this series, or any game in this series, but his managing can never be termed as brilliant. Heck, our best hitter on the series was slated for the bench if Nunez didn't hurt his knee.

 

When you are facing a superior team in the playoffs, a manager's ability and tinkering could be the difference. Most of the time, it isn't. Sometimes it is.

[moonslav59]

I don't think Farrell cost us this series, or any game in this series, but his managing can never be termed as brilliant. Heck, our best hitter on the series was slated for the bench if Nunez didn't hurt his knee.

 

Well, just a couple days ago, a poster was claiming we should DFA our best playoff hitter and number one HR% guy- HRam.

[a700hitter]

Well, just a couple days ago, a poster was claiming we should DFA our best playoff hitter and number one HR% guy- HRam.

Thank goodness he is not a manager, and I think he was talking about an off season move to upgrade the roster. That would not be totally unreasonable. Edited October 10, 2017 by a700hitter

[d-money]

I don't like Farrell but i am guessing he will be back. Looks like the stanks will force a game 5.

[Spudboy]

Well, just a couple days ago, a poster was claiming we should DFA our best playoff hitter and number one HR% guy- HRam.

 

You can use my name you know.

 

I stand by my suggestion. Just because you are not able to understand why it is a good idea does not make the idea a bad one.

 

Now go post another meaningless boring wall of text and take your Geritol.

[Spudboy]

Thank goodness he is not a manager, and I think he was talking about an off season move to upgrade the roster. That would not be totally unreasonable.

 

What?

[a700hitter]

What?

Don't ask me. LOL! Moon took it down a rabbit hole.

[Spudboy]

Don't ask me. LOL! Moon took it down a rabbit hole.

 

I was the guy who suggested dumping Hanley.

 

Moon is butt hurt about that since Hanley is so valuable.

 

My plan adds Stanton and keeps Moreland ( or not if a decent replacement can be found ).

 

Trade JBJ and ERod with two or three pieces for Stanton.

 

Maybe I should post a wall of text with very stat known to man to justify my idea?

[a700hitter]

I was the guy who suggested dumping Hanley.

 

Moon is butt hurt about that since Hanley is so valuable.

 

My plan adds Stanton and keeps Moreland ( or not if a decent replacement can be found ).

 

Trade JBJ and ERod with two or three pieces for Stanton.

 

Maybe I should post a wall of text with very stat known to man to justify my idea?

we could certainly upgrade that position, but it would cost some money. It might be worth the dough.

[a700hitter]

I was the guy who suggested dumping Hanley.

 

Moon is butt hurt about that since Hanley is so valuable.

 

My plan adds Stanton and keeps Moreland ( or not if a decent replacement can be found ).

 

Trade JBJ and ERod with two or three pieces for Stanton.

 

Maybe I should post a wall of text with very stat known to man to justify my idea?

It is a little silly that he is equating your suggestion ofbannoff season move with Farrell's game decisions in the ALDS.

[cp176]

I was the guy who suggested dumping Hanley.

 

Moon is butt hurt about that since Hanley is so valuable.

 

My plan adds Stanton and keeps Moreland ( or not if a decent replacement can be found ).

 

Trade JBJ and ERod with two or three pieces for Stanton.

 

Maybe I should post a wall of text with very stat known to man to justify my idea?

 

you'd hurt those soft fingers typing that much.

[cp176]

I was the guy who suggested dumping Hanley.

 

Moon is butt hurt about that since Hanley is so valuable.

 

My plan adds Stanton and keeps Moreland ( or not if a decent replacement can be found ).

 

Trade JBJ and ERod with two or three pieces for Stanton.

 

Maybe I should post a wall of text with very stat known to man to justify my idea?

 

 

As we have done in the recent past, you have to give to get don't you. For what it is worth, I still see Moreland as having value for us. I'm slowly coming around to possibly making a hard charge for Stanton. I'm not in love with many of these guys not named Sale these days and I really think that there might be major changes coming to upgrade our offense. In all honesty, Devers, Betts, and Vazquez would be the only untouchables for me when talking about our field players. Not just saying this for you here either, but I would not bet against Swihart being with us and Leon not being with us next year.