5/4 vs Orioles

Bellhorn04 · May 4, 2017

i am 1000% on board with this.

Everybody would be, until he has a couple of s***** games. :cool:

mvp 78 · May 4, 2017

Everybody would be, until he has a couple of s***** games.

I'm on board for him learning on the job if it means he becomes a cornerstone for this franchise at 3B.

We've taken lumps with Bogey, Pedroia and Trot Nixon. I'm fine with giving Devers a long leash.

Jack Flap · May 4, 2017

Kendrick is a washed-up veteran who was never much more than a #4/5 type in the NL and had a 6+ ERA the last time he pitched two seasons ago...I'd like to get excited about him, but I just can't. Better hope Price is back soon.

As for Devers, let's be real, he's 20 years old and has been in Double-A for a month. I think a late-summer promotion to Pawtucket is about the best we can expect. I have zero expectations of seeing him in the majors before next season.

mvp 78 · May 4, 2017

Kendrick is a washed-up veteran who was never much more than a #4/5 type in the NL and had a 6+ ERA the last time he pitched two seasons ago...I'd like to get excited about him, but I just can't. Better hope Price is back soon.

As for Devers, let's be real, he's 20 years old and has been in Double-A for a month. I think a late-summer promotion to Pawtucket is about the best we can expect. I have zero expectations of seeing him in the majors before next season.

^ Doesn't remember Beni or Moncada skipping AAA last year.

Wade Boggs · May 4, 2017

Wright , season ending knee surgery...... He is done.

Hopefully Kendrick can keep his head above water. A month of decent pitching is all you can ask for.

Wade Boggs · May 4, 2017

^ Doesn't remember Beni or Moncada skipping AAA last year.

DD has said that Devers is the future 3rd baseman. He is not trading him.

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Jasonbay44 · May 4, 2017

Wright , season ending knee surgery...... He is done.

Hopefully Kendrick can keep his head above water. A month of decent pitching is all you can ask for.

I'm really not sure he can provide that. He really sucks

Wade Boggs · May 4, 2017

I'm really not sure he can provide that. He really sucks

I know Jay. Their depth is being tested.

mvp 78 · May 4, 2017

DD has said that Devers is the future 3rd baseman. He is not trading him.
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Boioioioioing!!!!

Maxbialystock · May 4, 2017

I looked up Devers on sox prospects who say he is 20, potentially a very good hitter, but also a lard ass who can't run the bases (think slower than Mike Lowell) and who doesn't have good mechanics fielding or throwing. Think Saltalamacchia, but not as fast and probably a better hitter.

I thought Rutledge made some good plays last night. The error was almost identical to the one Machado made--gambling they could get someone out despite having to charge the ball and throw cross body. In both cases, the smart move was not to throw.

a700hitter · May 4, 2017

I looked up Devers on sox prospects who say he is 20, potentially a very good hitter, but also a lard ass who can't run the bases (think slower than Mike Lowell) and who doesn't have good mechanics fielding or throwing. Think Saltalamacchia, but not as fast and probably a better hitter.

I thought Rutledge made some good plays last night. The error was almost identical to the one Machado made--gambling they could get someone out despite having to charge the ball and throw cross body. In both cases, the smart move was not to throw.

He isn't athletic specimen, but may be he is tough and gritty.

Maxbialystock · May 4, 2017

apropos of nothing, I visited the Baltimore Sun and related sites to read their opinions. Oh, the injustice of it all. Machado is quoted as saying his slide into Pedroia was completely normal, exactly the way he always goes into 2B. Sale, who deliberately and accurately missed Machado with one fastball and then promptly struck him out is being billed as the great assassin and fully deserving of Machado going after him with a bat. Their catcher says the horrible decision by the umpire to toss Gausman will have long term effects--7 or 8 days, maybe longer--on the pitching staff.

I also checked espn and they too seem to be on the side of the Orioles. In that article you can see the genius of hitting Bogaerts with a 77 mph curve ball that didn't curve. Why? Because hitting someone at just 77 mph isn't hitting them at all. It's a non-event that should have been ignored by the umpire. Heck, maybe he should have called a strike as a reward for being so solicitous of Bogaerts' health--as opposed to the complete viciousness of Sale throwing 98 mph behind Machado (but not actually, well, hitting him).

Spudboy · May 4, 2017

apropos of nothing, I visited the Baltimore Sun and related sites to read their opinions. Oh, the injustice of it all. Machado is quoted as saying his slide into Pedroia was completely normal, exactly the way he always goes into 2B. Sale, who deliberately and accurately missed Machado with one fastball and then promptly struck him out is being billed as the great assassin and fully deserving of Machado going after him with a bat. Their catcher says the horrible decision by the umpire to toss Gausman will have long term effects--7 or 8 days, maybe longer--on the pitching staff.

I also checked espn and they too seem to be on the side of the Orioles. In that article you can see the genius of hitting Bogaerts with a 77 mph curve ball that didn't curve. Why? Because hitting someone at just 77 mph isn't hitting them at all. It's a non-event that should have been ignored by the umpire. Heck, maybe he should have called a strike as a reward for being so solicitous of Bogaerts' health--as opposed to the complete viciousness of Sale throwing 98 mph behind Machado (but not actually, well, hitting him).

Please tell me that you embellished those statements.

a700hitter · May 4, 2017

I'm really not sure he can provide that. He really sucks

When Kendrick was at the top of his game, he was little more than a punching bag who needed a big offense playing behind him.

a700hitter · May 4, 2017

I am waiting for Dojji to start a thread promoting the idea of bringing up Mererro and either putting him at third or moving XB there and putting the glovey Mererro at SS.

The odd thing is that even though Mererro is heading further into sub-Mendoza land, he would at least be a defensive upgrade.

He might bang the drum for Mark Teahen. LOL!

Spudboy · May 4, 2017

He might bang the drum for Mark Teahen. LOL!

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!1!1!11

Maxbialystock · May 4, 2017

Please tell me that you embellished those statements.

I did. Machado did say it was his normal slide. The catcher did say the loss of Gausman in the 2d inning because of a bad judgment by the umpire would have long term effects on the pitching staff for at least 7 or 8 days. No one, however, called Sale an assassin. Machado and others however kept saying how Sale's location--low--endangered Machado's very fragile knees, etc. Machado also said he felt justified going after Boston's cowardly pitchers with a bat but doesn't want to be suspended for a year. I did not exaggerate that practically everyone in Baltimore and on espn think the fact the Gausman pitch was just 77 mph basically makes it a nonissue. ESPN and the Orioles also seem to agree that MLB should never have intervened nor had a verbal meeting with the two managers yesterday afternoon nor given the umpires guidance to be especially alert for maverick pitches. Today the Orioles announcers are repeating a story line from last night that the strike called by the umpire against Jones--a somewhat delayed call--was just completely unwarranted and unduly provocative toward Jones and caused him to react the way he did.

It is probably my interpretation that the fact that Sale threw 98 mph--even though it missed Machado and clearly was intended to miss him--was a vicious act and basically justified any kind of retaliation by the Orioles. I think they believe that but didn't say it quite that way.

I also think the consensus is that Barnes and Sale are vicious and that Farrell is incompetent. Machado is completely innocent and being unfairly singled out by Barnes and Sale and Farrell. Gausman and the other Orioles pitcher who hit Betts are just good solid folk doing their jobs. Showalter is just a good manager doing his job. The injury to Pedroia and his missed games are hardly mentioned and certainly not an issue for anyone with any sense--kind of like when JBJ tripped going around 1B. The racist comments/actions by a few Sox fans are there in the background in case anyone thinks the Sox or fenway or boston has any redeeming value.

Edited May 4, 2017 by Maxbialystock

cp176 · May 4, 2017

I sure and hell hope that no one is surprised that another New England team is demonized. We cheat - we are racists - the beat goes on.

Jasonbay44 · May 4, 2017

Holy s***, I'm seriously about down with all our 3B, they all f***ing suck

TylerD · May 4, 2017

Baltimore playing with a chip on their shoulder lol they seem a bit bitter from theas couple days

a700hitter · May 4, 2017

Holy s***, I'm seriously about down with all our 3B, they all f***ing suck

I would get Selsky up here for a try. He couldn't do worse. If he sucks, I think we have Matt Dominguez in the organization. He would be up next.

Jasonbay44 · May 4, 2017

Orioles announcers complaining Sale hasn't been suspended yet... Lol.

Good job by Kendrick to work around some bad luck and s***** fielding.

a700hitter · May 4, 2017

Good pitching by Kendrick to pitch out of the Defense caused jam.

Jasonbay44 · May 4, 2017

I would get Selsky up here for a try. He couldn't do worse. If he sucks, I think we have Matt Dominguez in the organization. He would be up next.

These guys cant possibly do much worse, were getting an error almost every damn night from Pablo/Hernandez/Rutledge.

Fisk · May 4, 2017

Good job by Kendrick to get out of it.

Bellhorn04 · May 4, 2017

Good job by Kendrick to get out of it.

As Joe Buck would say, 'Kendrick gets around a couple of hits and an error.' Buck always says 'gets around' when a pitcher leaves men on base.

Maxbialystock · May 4, 2017

OK, enough of my longwinded bs signifying nothing. Great top of the first by Kendrick! He had every reason to lose his composure but refused to do so. On top of getting around men on 2d and 3d with 1 out, he only threw 12 pitches.

Maxbialystock · May 4, 2017

So we just saw a great fielding thirdbaseman try to run in and get Betts out, but the throw, which was good, was late. I hope Rutledge and Farrell were paying attention. Sometime the smart move is to hang only the ball.