Dombrowski in Cherington Out

[SoxnCycles]

Ben could have been part of the Evil Empire!

 

http://nypost.com/2015/10/27/yankees-tried-to-hire-departed-red-sox-gm/

 

"Cherington has decided to back away – at least for a while – from any full-time baseball jobs. He, for example, declined a chance to interview for the GM openings with the Mariners and Phillies, though he was perceived as a strong candidate for both. Instead, he accepted a teaching position in Columbia University’s sports management program for the spring semester.

Cherington is expected to try to re-enter a front office at some point.

 

Joel Sherman obviously didn't talk to the folks that know BC best, a couple of posters here.

 

Joel would then know that BC is: A. A fool and B. Realizing he's not competent enough to to work in a front office.

[Kimmi]

"Cherington has decided to back away – at least for a while – from any full-time baseball jobs. He, for example, declined a chance to interview for the GM openings with the Mariners and Phillies, though he was perceived as a strong candidate for both. Instead, he accepted a teaching position in Columbia University’s sports management program for the spring semester.

Cherington is expected to try to re-enter a front office at some point.

 

Joel Sherman obviously didn't talk to the folks that know BC best, a couple of posters here.

 

Joel would then know that BC is: A. A fool and B. Realizing he's not competent enough to to work in a front office.

 

Cherington is obviously well respected by other teams and other GMs. They can look past the "3 last place finishes in 4 years" and see the overall body of work that Cherington has done, which again, includes winning a World Series while rebuilding the farm. That's no small feat.

[a700hitter]

Cherington is obviously well respected by other teams and other GMs. They can look past the "3 last place finishes in 4 years" and see the overall body of work that Cherington has done, which again, includes winning a World Series while rebuilding the farm. That's no small feat.

He is now a Gym Teacher. Best wishes Ben.

[cp176]

He is now a Gym Teacher. Best wishes Ben.

 

If he was in fact actually teaching phys. ed on a full time basis in some little school somewhere, he would at least have the satisfaction of knowing that he was making a real positive contribution to society. Being the GM of an organization in the entertainment business doesn't exactly put him on a special pedestal for me. Doesn't matter what kind of job he did or does. Just my opinion though - I feel the same way about most of the professional athletes i cheer for. I will continue to be a fan but they play a game for a living that we pay dearly to watch. Good for them - I'll have a beer in their honor tonight.

[SoxnCycles]

If he was in fact actually teaching phys. ed on a full time basis in some little school somewhere, he would at least have the satisfaction of knowing that he was making a real positive contribution to society. Being the GM of an organization in the entertainment business doesn't exactly put him on a special pedestal for me. Doesn't matter what kind of job he did or does. Just my opinion though - I feel the same way about most of the professional athletes i cheer for. I will continue to be a fan but they play a game for a living that we pay dearly to watch. Good for them - I'll have a beer in their honor tonight.

 

Yeah, it's not like those jobs require a lot of hard work or anything, to be successful.

[cp176]

Yeah, it's not like those jobs require a lot of hard work or anything, to be successful.

 

Like I said just my opinion. Not a question at all about how hard somebody works.

[SoxnCycles]

Like I said just my opinion. Not a question at all about how hard somebody works.

 

I'm just glad I'm not cynical enough where I view hard work and sacrifice as nothing "special".

[sk7326]

Cherington is obviously well respected by other teams and other GMs. They can look past the "3 last place finishes in 4 years" and see the overall body of work that Cherington has done, which again, includes winning a World Series while rebuilding the farm. That's no small feat.

 

I am curious now with the Toronto job open whether he gets a call - who knows what direction Shapiro will take that.

[GomesBeard]

I am curious now with the Toronto job open whether he gets a call - who knows what direction Shapiro will take that.

 

Wouldn't he be in the same scenario there vis a vis Dombrowski?

[sk7326]

Wouldn't he be in the same scenario there vis a vis Dombrowski?

 

No - because the conditions are known. It's one thing to enter a gig with your eyes open - it is another thing to have the gig you have change.

[cp176]

I'm just glad I'm not cynical enough where I view hard work and sacrifice as nothing "special".

 

So - Let me see. my take on this is that I'm cynical and that I might view people who work hard and sacrifice as nothing special. None of that is true but the beauty of a forum is that you get to say what you want to right. Nice take on my words. Now you want to get into a great run your mouth debate that's ok. Here is one for you - I don't think that being GM of a major league baseball franchise carries any more significance than being a good classroom teacher. Judging from your comments, you don't agree. It is pretty clear that you disagree with this. That's ok. It's my opinion. It's your right.

[SoxnCycles]

So - Let me see. my take on this is that I'm cynical and that I might view people who work hard and sacrifice as nothing special. None of that is true but the beauty of a forum is that you get to say what you want to right. Nice take on my words. Now you want to get into a great run your mouth debate that's ok. Here is one for you - I don't think that being GM of a major league baseball franchise carries any more significance than being a good classroom teacher. Judging from your comments, you don't agree. It is pretty clear that you disagree with this. That's ok. It's my opinion. It's your right.

 

Actually, I think anyone who works hard to excel at their job deserves respect and admiration.

Doesn't matter to me if they're a ditch digger or a CEO.

 

There a lot of great teachers out there that don't get the recognition they deserve.

That doesn't mean someone that's in the public eye doesn't deserve it, because they make a lot of money or are well known.

 

It's not that difficult a concept.

 

What wonderful things does your job contribute to society?

[Kimmi]

He is now a Gym Teacher. Best wishes Ben.

 

That's the second snarky remark you've made with regard to Ben being a 'gym teacher', as though he has taken a huge step down by taking a teaching position. Do you have something against gym teachers, or teachers in general?

[SoxnCycles]

That's the second snarky remark you've made with regard to Ben being a 'gym teacher', as though he has taken a huge step down by taking a teaching position. Do you have something against gym teachers, or teachers in general?

 

I haven't been able to figure why all the geniuses here aren't in a MLB front office somewhere....

[cp176]

Actually, I think anyone who works hard to excel at their job deserves respect and admiration.

Doesn't matter to me if they're a ditch digger or a CEO.

 

There a lot of great teachers out there that don't get the recognition they deserve.

That doesn't mean someone that's in the public eye doesn't deserve it, because they make a lot of money or are well known.

 

It's not that difficult a concept.

 

What wonderful things does your job contribute to society?

 

teacher

[SoxnCycles]

teacher

 

Good choice.

 

I sincerely hope you're one of the good ones.

 

I just hope it's not gym teacher. They don't seem to garner much respect around here.

[cp176]

Good choice.

 

I sincerely hope you're one of the good ones.

 

I just hope it's not gym teacher. They don't seem to garner much respect around here.

 

 

I was told that I was one of the good ones. My wife taught phys. ed. I think that we got the job done. All good.

[SoxnCycles]

I was told that I was one of the good ones. My wife taught phys. ed. I think that we got the job done. All good.

 

Congrats to both of you.

Tough jobs with not enough rewards or recognition.

[sk7326]

Wouldn't he be in the same scenario there vis a vis Dombrowski?

 

BTW: The Anthoopolous business is a major major cluster for Toronto

[a700hitter]

I was told that I was one of the good ones. My wife taught phys. ed. I think that we got the job done. All good.

I appreciate that you have a good sense of humor and that you recognize humor without taking offense. BTW, my Dad was a Phys Ed instructor, gymnast and wrestler before serving in WWII. When I was a kid I can remember my dad (then in his mid-40s) taking me to the park and doing handstands on the monkey bars. It frightened me but I thought it was normal for a Dad to do that. LOL. When he retired at age 65 from his factory job on the night we took him out to dinner to celebrate, he was talking about how he still felt pretty young. With that he said, "I'll bet I can still do a headstand into a handstand" and there he was in the living room in the headstand trying to push up into the handstand. One side was not cooperating and his face was getting pretty red, but he was determined and he didn't want help. Finally, I convinced him to stop before he had a stroke on a night honoring him. Boy was he pissed. No one worked harder than my father. He worked in his father's gas station from age 8 until his father lost the business in the Depression. Then it was the gym and factory work broken up only by a world war. I can never remember him missing work except for holidays and 2 weeks vacation every year. Edited October 30, 2015 by a700hitter

[a700hitter]

Oh and by the way, f*** off Sox and Cycles.

[Spudboy]

lol.

 

Okay then.

[cp176]

Congrats to both of you.

Tough jobs with not enough rewards or recognition.

 

thank you - every day wasn't great but I think we did what we supposed to be doing in the grand scheme of things. I was lucky. I never saw it as a job. Our school was my home away from home for many years.

[cp176]

I appreciate that you have a good sense of humor and that you recognize humor without taking offense. BTW, my Dad was a Phys Ed instructor, gymnast and wrestler before serving in WWII. When I was a kid I can remember that my dad (then in his mid-40s) taking me to the park and doing handstands on the monkey bars. It frightened me but I thought it was normal for a Dad to do that. LOL. When he retired at age 65 from his factory job on the night we took him out to dinner to celebrate, he was talking about how he still felt pretty young. With that he said, "I'll bet I can still do a headstand into a handstand" and there he was in the living room in the headstand trying to push up into the handstand. One side was not cooperating and his face was getting pretty red, but he was determined and he didn't want help. Finally, I convinced him to stop before he had a stroke on a night honoring him. Boy was he pissed. No one worked harder than my father. He worked in his father's gas station from age 8 until his father lost the business in the Depression. Then it was the gym and factory work broken up only by a world war. I can never remember him missing work except for holidays and 2 weeks vacation every year.

 

I hear you. I worked at a number of factories up here doing many different jobs while going to school. I met and worked beside some of the most honest hardworking people I have ever known. I'm glad I was raised the way I was. You got up and you went to work. You did the job. You didn't get there late and you didn't leave early.

[a700hitter]

I hear you. I worked at a number of factories up here doing many different jobs while going to school. I met and worked beside some of the most honest hardworking people I have ever known. I'm glad I was raised the way I was. You got up and you went to work. You did the job. You didn't get there late and you didn't leave early.

And there was no whining and they didn't expect a pat on the back.

[SoxnCycles]

I appreciate that you have a good sense of humor and that you recognize humor without taking offense. BTW, my Dad was a Phys Ed instructor, gymnast and wrestler before serving in WWII. When I was a kid I can remember my dad (then in his mid-40s) taking me to the park and doing handstands on the monkey bars. It frightened me but I thought it was normal for a Dad to do that. LOL. When he retired at age 65 from his factory job on the night we took him out to dinner to celebrate, he was talking about how he still felt pretty young. With that he said, "I'll bet I can still do a headstand into a handstand" and there he was in the living room in the headstand trying to push up into the handstand. One side was not cooperating and his face was getting pretty red, but he was determined and he didn't want help. Finally, I convinced him to stop before he had a stroke on a night honoring him. Boy was he pissed. No one worked harder than my father. He worked in his father's gas station from age 8 until his father lost the business in the Depression. Then it was the gym and factory work broken up only by a world war. I can never remember him missing work except for holidays and 2 weeks vacation every year.

 

Your dad sounds like a heck of a guy.

 

He must have felt horrible about dropping you on your head as a child.

[a700hitter]

That's the second snarky remark you've made with regard to Ben being a 'gym teacher', as though he has taken a huge step down by taking a teaching position. Do you have something against gym teachers, or teachers in general?

No and no. Some of my best friend and favorite relatives are/were teachers including my wife. And my Father was a Phy Ed instructor.

[Kimmi]

I haven't been able to figure why all the geniuses here aren't in a MLB front office somewhere....

 

Armchair GMs and managers are the best!

[Kimmi]

Oh and by the way, f*** off Sox and Cycles.

 

Was this really necessary?

[Kimmi]

your dad sounds like a heck of a guy.

 

He must have felt horrible about dropping you on your head as a child.

 

lol