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Not to mention that he is on the brink of hitting 500 HRs. The Sox can't have him reaching 500 with another team.

Good point. He is an icon for a generation of Sox. It would be a PR nightmare of he hit # 500 for another team. Not to mention the loss of revenue.

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Part of me says sure they can, it's business, but they won't. Or to put it another way, I would be shocked if Papi OKs a trade.

 

Sure, they can do whatever they want. They're the owners. But like you said, they won't, and they shouldn't.

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Now saying it's on the verge of a done deal, for a minor league pitcher.

 

I've been reading about the effect that his signing might have on the clubhouse, more specifically on the BP, more specifically on Storen. Storen has done a solid job in the closer's role, and now he's being pushed out of that role for Papelbon. I'm sure he gets it that adding Paps lengthens the BP, but I'm also pretty sure that he's not thrilled with undeservedly losing his job . It will be interesting to see how he responds on the mound to this change.

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Good point. He is an icon for a generation of Sox. It would be a PR nightmare of he hit # 500 for another team. Not to mention the loss of revenue.

 

Wait.... We agree on something? Mark this day in our calendars.

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Wait.... We agree on something? Mark this day in our calendars.
I agreed with you in another thread too. This team has forced Red Sox fans to unite. :)
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I've been reading about the effect that his signing might have on the clubhouse, more specifically on the BP, more specifically on Storen. Storen has done a solid job in the closer's role, and now he's being pushed out of that role for Papelbon. I'm sure he gets it that adding Paps lengthens the BP, but I'm also pretty sure that he's not thrilled with undeservedly losing his job . It will be interesting to see how he responds on the mound to this change.

 

If he does anything less than his best and does not maintain his current level of effectiveness than he is a loser and a pussy.

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I've been reading about the effect that his signing might have on the clubhouse, more specifically on the BP, more specifically on Storen. Storen has done a solid job in the closer's role, and now he's being pushed out of that role for Papelbon. I'm sure he gets it that adding Paps lengthens the BP, but I'm also pretty sure that he's not thrilled with undeservedly losing his job . It will be interesting to see how he responds on the mound to this change.
I can understand Papelbon making the trade conditional on closing. He is concerned about his career. The Nats could have said no and pursued another arm. The Nats agreed after speaking with Storen, but I could see Storen being resentful. He has done the job and earned the spot. If Papelbon does the job, there should be no problem, but if he blows one or 2 there could be grumblings.

 

I was surprised to read that Papelbon is the career saves leader for the Phillies as well as for the Red Sox.

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If he does anything less than his best and does not maintain his current level of effectiveness than he is a loser and a pussy.

 

I agree that as a professional, he should be able to maintain his level of effectiveness. You do what's best for the team. I also understand that being a human, that's not always as easy as it sounds.

 

It's similar to Bogaerts being moved to 3B last season. Did he feel like he was "demoted"? Did it affect his play? Who knows?

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I can understand Papelbon making the trade conditional on closing. He is concerned about his career. The Nats could have said no and pursued another arm. The Nats agreed after speaking with Storen, but I could see Storen being resentful. He has done the job and earned the spot. If Papelbon does the job, there should be no problem, but if he blows one or 2 there could be grumblings.

 

I was surprised to read that Papelbon is the career saves leader for the Phillies as well as for the Red Sox.

 

I am wondering how binding that condition of being a closer is, and for how long. Like you said, if Papelbon blows a couple of saves, then what?

 

I'm a huge Papelbon fan. I would have taken him back on the Sox in a heartbeat, just not at the price the Phillies gave him.

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I've been reading about the effect that his signing might have on the clubhouse, more specifically on the BP, more specifically on Storen. Storen has done a solid job in the closer's role, and now he's being pushed out of that role for Papelbon. I'm sure he gets it that adding Paps lengthens the BP, but I'm also pretty sure that he's not thrilled with undeservedly losing his job . It will be interesting to see how he responds on the mound to this change.

 

Papelbon is a major douchebag.

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Papelbon is a major douchebag.

 

Don't see why that's particularly true of Papelbon. Lots of guys who are used to closing only want to close

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The Rangers just gave up their #1, 4, 5, 6, and 17 prospects. They also gave up former ace Matt Harrison, who may or may not be a salary dump.

 

Well s***. Philly finally got the franchise changing haul they wanted.

 

EDIT: Earlier reports showed Gallo included, so not nearly as much talent went to Philly.

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Papelbon is a major douchebag.

 

No, he's not. He is another one who should never step foot in front of a microphone because he's not intelligent enough to do so, but otherwise he's all right in my book.

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The Rangers just gave up their #1, 4, 5, 6, and 17 prospects. They also gave up former ace Matt Harrison, who may or may not be a salary dump.

 

Well s***. Philly finally got the franchise changing haul they wanted.

 

EDIT: Earlier reports showed Gallo included, so not nearly as much talent went to Philly.

 

For as much criticism as he gets, Amaro did well in this deal. Not take the Rangers to the cleaners well, but he got some good prospects to help with the rebuilding process.

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The Blue Jays are said to be closing in on a deal for David Price. Tulo and Price -- those are a couple of high quality adds.

 

Confirmed now. Tigers got the Jay's top pitching prospect daniel norris.

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That's a big cost for a team that's 7 games back on the division. Maybe they plan to resign him with Buerhle's contract expiring, but is one arm really going to help this Jay's team's pitching?
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Norris is not very good, regardless of his ranking. He has had struggles at AAA this season and in his MLB stint he has had a lot of trouble throwing strikes.
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No, he's not. He is another one who should never step foot in front of a microphone because he's not intelligent enough to do so, but otherwise he's all right in my book.

 

This is basically what I've always thought. He's not actually trying to be a douche, he's just so white-trash ignorant that he comes off as a jerk. If he had no baseball talent I think he'd be living in a trailer with five kids whose names all begin with the same letter and a wife who weighs three times as much as he does.

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Another big move by the Astros

 

Astros Acquire Carlos Gomez, Mike Fiers For Four Prospects

 

By Steve Adams [July 30, 2015 at 6:48pm CDT]

 

6:48pm: The Astros and Brewers have announced the trade. Milwaukee will also send an international bonus slot to the Astros as part of the deal.

 

6:42pm: The Brewers will receive outfield prospects Brett Phillips and Domingo Santana, right-hander Adrian Houser and lefty Josh Hader, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Heyman adds that the medicals in this deal have already been approved, so Gomez’s hip is clearly not a concern for the Astros.

 

6:38pm: Evan Drellich of the Houston Chronicle reports that there will be “four or five” prospects heading back to the Brewers in the deal (Twitter link).

 

6:32pm: The Astros and Brewers are in agreement on a trade that will send center fielder Carlos Gomez and right-hander Mike Fiers to Houston, reports Jon Heyman of CBS Sports (via Twitter).

 

Gomez, of course, was believed to be headed back to the Mets last night in a swap that would’ve sent Zack Wheeler and Wilmer Flores to the Brewers, but the trade fell through after names were agreed upon due to a combination of medical concerns pertaining to his hip and perhaps financial elements as well.

 

Adding Gomez to the outfield mix should result in a significant improvement for the Astros over the remainder of the season. Despite hamstring issues that cost him three weeks earlier in the year, Gomez’s defense remains above average, and if he’s 100 percent healthy, he has a track record as one of the best defensive outfielders in baseball.

 

Plus defense has long been part of Gomez’s game due to his excellent range, but Gomez over the past three-plus seasons has turned himself into a genuine offensive weapon at the plate as well. Dating back to Opening Day 2012, Gomez is a .275/.335/.474 hitter that has averaged 24 homers and 38 stolen bases per 162 games played. Wins above replacement pegs Gomez at an average of five to five-and-a-half wins per year in that time, depending on your preferred version of the metric.

 

In addition to his strong all-around game, though, Gomez made for an appealing trade candidate due to his contractual situation. He’s the rare Scott Boras client that took an extension as opposed to waiting for free agency, and while he should still secure a $100MM+ contract with ease following the 2016 season, he’s currently in the midst of a three-year, $24MM pact that has worked out beautifully for the Brewers. Gomez is earning $8MM in 2015 — of which about $3.02MM remains — and he’ll earn $9MM in 2016. Provided he remains healthy, the Astros will pay about $12MM for as many as 221 games of Gomez’s career.

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This is basically what I've always thought. He's not actually trying to be a douche, he's just so white-trash ignorant that he comes off as a jerk. If he had no baseball talent I think he'd be living in a trailer with five kids whose names all begin with the same letter and a wife who weighs three times as much as he does.

 

LOL You have a much more descriptive way of saying things.

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I will be glad when the deadline passes. I always hate this time of year, with all of the rumors and speculation. Even though the Sox are not that active, it's nerve wracking. I do hope that the Sox are able to trade Napoli, not that I have anything against him.
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I will be glad when the deadline passes. I always hate this time of year, with all of the rumors and speculation. Even though the Sox are not that active, it's nerve wracking. I do hope that the Sox are able to trade Napoli, not that I have anything against him.
it is the only thing that has been interesting and fun in baseball for me since April. I only wish that the Red Sox were in the middle of it.

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