2014 Roster Projections

[mvp 78]

Of course he is, now that his options have dwindled to the point where only the Red Sox are a realistic landing point.

 

How could this happen to such an "above average SS" like Drew?!?

[rjortiz]

If he's open to playing 2B, I could see Toronto getting involved.

[Bellhorn04]

There are very few good SS's in the game to begin with and there will be fewer available at the trade deadline. If you don't sign Drew now, you're not gonna get a shot at a player of his caliber at the deadline. That being said, you shouldn't need him. It's Bogaerts' time and you've built enough good will after the improbable title run to give the kid the appropriate time to develop at the big league level

 

Bogaerts isn't really the issue. A large % of Sox fans who would like Drew to be signed think Middlebrooks is the issue. The team that won the World Series had Drew at SS, Bogey at 3B and WMB on the pine.

[rjortiz]

I don't think that Drew's market will collapse to the point where the Red Sox would be the only team involved. What kind of deal does everyone have in mind? 1/10? I have to believe that there would be other teams that would be interested at that price.

 

I think he'll sign for 2/24 or 3/30 to play 2B for Toronto.

[Palodios]

I don't think that Drew's market will collapse to the point where the Red Sox would be the only team involved. What kind of deal does everyone have in mind? 1/10? I have to believe that there would be other teams that would be interested at that price.

 

I think he'll sign for 2/24 or 3/30 to play 2B for Toronto.

 

Toronto has the #11 pick in the draft. I do not think they will find Stephen Drew to be worth a pick that low.

[User Name]

How could this happen to such an "above average SS" like Drew?!?

 

Draft-pick cost. And he's not an "above average SS" in quotation. He's an ABOVE AVERAGE SS in caps.

[User Name]

Toronto has the #11 pick in the draft. I do not think they will find Stephen Drew to be worth a pick that low.

 

That high?

[rjortiz]

Toronto has the #11 pick in the draft. I do not think they will find Stephen Drew to be worth a pick that low.

 

That pick is exempt because it's compensation for failing to sign their 2013 first round pick.

[Dojji]

How could this happen to such an "above average SS" like Drew?!?

 

 

A big part of it happened when the Yankees re-signed Derek Jeter. I don't think boras was counting on them fully recommitting themselves to a guy who looked ready to retire.

 

And yes, Drew is a very good shortstop on both sides of the ball. I'm amazed no one is going for him. If we didn't have a top prospect in the wings we'd be all over keeping this guy.

[Palodios]

That pick is exempt because it's compensation for failing to sign their 2013 first round pick.

 

Are you sure it is exempt? I am reading over the rules and can find no reason why it would be.

[mvp 78]

A big part of it happened when the Yankees re-signed Derek Jeter. I don't think boras was counting on them fully recommitting themselves to a guy who looked ready to retire.

 

And yes, Drew is a very good shortstop on both sides of the ball. I'm amazed no one is going for him. If we didn't have a top prospect in the wings we'd be all over keeping this guy.

If no gm in baseball is showing interest in a guy who helped win a WS, maybe he's overrated on here a little bit?

[rjortiz]

I saw it mentioned on fangraphs when they discussed them signing Ubaldo Jimenez that they have two exempt first round picks.

[rjortiz]

If no gm in baseball is showing interest in a guy who helped win a WS, maybe he's overrated on here a little bit?

 

Most people are saying he's an above-average SS, which I think is an accurate description. The problem is there aren't a lot of teams that are going to want to surrender a 1st round pick for a player like Drew. It doesn't help that most teams are set at SS. It also doesn't help that the teams that have a need at SS are awful (Mets) and Drew wouldn't impact their chances. Also, teams aren't going to forget that Drew was awful in 2012 and has an injury history. He's also in his decline years.

 

I think he's going to have agree to play 2B to get the best offer, unless he agrees to sign for 2/20 to sign with the Mets.

[Bellhorn04]

If no gm in baseball is showing interest in a guy who helped win a WS, maybe he's overrated on here a little bit?

 

His offense might be overrated a bit. The WAR projections for Drew for 2014 are only about 2, where he was 3.4 on FanGraphs for 2013. Looks like the main reason is his home/road splits. He had an 859 OPS at Fenway and 687 on the road. Which might be one more reason that Boston is the perfect fit for him.

[SoxSport]

http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/boston_red_sox/2014/01/xander_bogaerts_owns_island_paradise

 

X seems a fixture at SS, if you read this.

 

What they really need is insurance for Middlebrooks at 3B. Drew isn't the answer there.

[Dojji]

Between Bogaerts, Middlebrooks and Drew, SS and 3B isn't likely to be an issue. The question in my mind is that if they can ever drag Pedroia off the field, who backs up at second, X or Drew.

[Dojji]

If no gm in baseball is showing interest in a guy who helped win a WS, maybe he's overrated on here a little bit?

 

Or perhaps he came onto the market at a bad time.

 

baffles me that a SS who defended at a quite passable level and hit 50 XBH would have this much trouble finding a buyer.

[Station 13]

Between Bogaerts, Middlebrooks and Drew, SS and 3B isn't likely to be an issue. The question in my mind is that if they can ever drag Pedroia off the field, who backs up at second, X or Drew.

 

the dude who they traded Morales for.

[Spitball]

Or perhaps he came onto the market at a bad time.

 

baffles me that a SS who defended at a quite passable level and hit 50 XBH would have this much trouble finding a buyer.

 

I am pretty certain it has to do with multiple factors. First of all, the off season seems to have come to a halt while Tanaka finds a home. Drew will cost a draft pick. Many potential teams that would have been interested have other options. His agent, Scott Boras, likes to wait it out.

[Spitball]

the dude who they traded Morales for.

 

Jonathan Herrera

[Dojji]

the dude who they traded Morales for.

 

If they have Drew, NWIH Herrerra is on the team. Probably he'd be shoved down to AAA to wait for an injury.

[mvp 78]

I am pretty certain it has to do with multiple factors. First of all, the off season seems to have come to a halt while Tanaka finds a home. Drew will cost a draft pick. Many potential teams that would have been interested have other options. His agent, Scott Boras, likes to wait it out.

 

You think Boras isn't proactive enough, or just knows he'll get signed later anyway?

[rjortiz]

Or perhaps he came onto the market at a bad time.

 

baffles me that a SS who defended at a quite passable level and hit 50 XBH would have this much trouble finding a buyer.

 

How? How many teams are legitimate fits for Drew?

[User Name]

...and are willing to give up a draft pick for him. That's the real problem. Some team would have upgraded if he didn't come with the draft pick attachment.

[seabeachfred]

There are very few good SS's in the game to begin with and there will be fewer available at the trade deadline. If you don't sign Drew now, you're not gonna get a shot at a player of his caliber at the deadline. That being said, you shouldn't need him. It's Bogaerts' time and you've built enough good will after the improbable title run to give the kid the appropriate time to develop at the big league level

 

Thanks Jacko; some of us here have been saying that for the past few weeks. This IS the perfect time to turn the page and get those young players into the mix. Let Drew go elsewhere or let him sit out until June when a team signing him will not cost them a draft pick.

[User Name]

I don't think you even read the post. You just picked out the part you thought resonated with your argument. We shouldn't "need" him, but he's clearly an upgrade.

[SoxSport]

I'd be surprised if they signed Drew. He doesn't fit moneywise or rosterwise--having just traded for a more versatile, younger and cheaper player. Getting Herrera showed me what the FO may be thinking. He's a guy who hits well enough to play for sustained periods at 3B, SS or 2B. Besides, the FO doesn't owe a damned thing to Boras, having just bartered off Ellsbury to the Yankees. Let him hang in the breeze.

[Dojji]

More versatile? Check. Younger? Check. Cheaper? Check?

 

Better? By no means whatsoever. Herrera doesn't hold a candle to Drew, and by not bringing Drew back if he's out there for a decent price, you're gambling on Middlebrooks and bogaerts, two unproven unknowns, to a level that I do not believe a perennial championship contender should be doing.

[Bellhorn04]

'Play the kids' sounds great right now. If we're a few weeks into the season and the tandem of Bogaerts and Middlebrooks is looking shaky, we'll see how long that 'play the kids' attitude holds up. In my experience, not very long.

[User Name]

'Play the kids' sounds great right now. If we're a few weeks into the season and the tandem of Bogaerts and Middlebrooks is looking shaky, we'll see how long that 'play the kids' attitude holds up. In my experience, not very long.

 

The hilarious thing is that the first person who'd come out whining about the "FO's incompetence for not having a plan in case X/WMB struggled" is Fred. And he would deny it vehemently until someone came into this thread and called him out on it, at which point he still wouldn't shut up about it.